PEACE ? ? ?

[Phoenall]

It was shown on UK T.V. last night that Israel and the unity P.A. government have reached a conclusion on the possibilities of peace in the near future. Israel has agreed to lift the blockade partly to allow building materials to enter gaza, more Humantarian aid and food. Hamas has agreed to stop all violence and terrorism in return for allowing fishing to a greater extent. There are no plans to allow a seaport or an airport to be rebuilt as of yet, and as the News reporter stated why have hamas suddenly agreed to the same conditions they denied 1 month ago.

 

[I.P.Freely]

Why has Israeli Minister Uzi Landau accused Bibi of wanting peace at any price, what was the price? 64 dead IDF and hundreds seriously injured for what?

 

[toastman]

Why has Israeli Minister Uzi Landau accused Bibi of wanting peace at any price, what was the price? 64 dead IDF and hundreds seriously injured for what?

To get rid of tunnels that were entering Israel, to destroy as many rockets and rocket launchers as possible and to kill as many Hamas scum also.

 

[I.P.Freely]

Why has Israeli Minister Uzi Landau accused Bibi of wanting peace at any price, what was the price? 64 dead IDF and hundreds seriously injured for what?

To get rid of tunnels that were entering Israel, to destroy as many rockets and rocket launchers as possible and to kill as many Hamas scum also.

According to Lipush who lives in southern Israel non of that wish list has been achieved.Why did Bibi not put the cease fire to a vote in his security council?

 

[Lipush]

Why has Israeli Minister Uzi Landau accused Bibi of wanting peace at any price, what was the price? 64 dead IDF and hundreds seriously injured for what?

To get rid of tunnels that were entering Israel, to destroy as many rockets and rocket launchers as possible and to kill as many Hamas scum also.

According to Lipush who lives in southern Israel non of that wish list has been achieved.Why did Bibi not put the cease fire to a vote in his security council?

That's....not what I've said. The rockets inside Israel that we know of were destroyed, + other 33 tunnles. We also destroyed launchers.

But we could have dealt with the situation better, and gain something more from the ceasefire. That, adding to the fact that Netanyahu didn't council with the ministers, something he was obligated to do before responding 'yes' to the Egyptian offer. That is why many don't like his actions now.

 

[I.P.Freely]

Why has Israeli Minister Uzi Landau accused Bibi of wanting peace at any price, what was the price? 64 dead IDF and hundreds seriously injured for what?

To get rid of tunnels that were entering Israel, to destroy as many rockets and rocket launchers as possible and to kill as many Hamas scum also.

According to Lipush who lives in southern Israel non of that wish list has been achieved.Why did Bibi not put the cease fire to a vote in his security council?

That's....not what I've said. The rockets inside Israel that we know of were destroyed, + other 33 tunnles. We also destroyed launchers.

But we could have dealt with the situation better, and gain something more from the ceasefire. That, adding to the fact that Netanyahu didn't council with the ministers, something he was obligated to do before responding 'yes' to the Egyptian offer. That is why many don't like his actions now.

so you do not remember your response to me, saying you lived in southern Israel and you were still scared of the rockets and tunnels?

 

[Lipush]

Why has Israeli Minister Uzi Landau accused Bibi of wanting peace at any price, what was the price? 64 dead IDF and hundreds seriously injured for what?

To get rid of tunnels that were entering Israel, to destroy as many rockets and rocket launchers as possible and to kill as many Hamas scum also.

According to Lipush who lives in southern Israel non of that wish list has been achieved.Why did Bibi not put the cease fire to a vote in his security council?

That's....not what I've said. The rockets inside Israel that we know of were destroyed, + other 33 tunnles. We also destroyed launchers.

But we could have dealt with the situation better, and gain something more from the ceasefire. That, adding to the fact that Netanyahu didn't council with the ministers, something he was obligated to do before responding 'yes' to the Egyptian offer. That is why many don't like his actions now.

so you do not remember your response to me, saying you lived in southern Israel and you were still scared of the rockets and tunnels?

I'm still afraid of the rockets they will create again and the launchers they'll build and the tunnles they'll dig.

Still doesn't mean we achieved nothing in what was done

Two completely different things.

 

[RoccoR]

et al,

I'm not at all sure what all the celebration is about. Maybe I'm missing something. It is just a "Cease-fire Agreement."

Mahmoud Zahar, a senior Hamas leader, promised to rebuild homes destroyed in the war and said Hamas would rearm. "We will build and upgrade our arsenal to be ready for the coming battle, the battle of full liberation," he declared, surrounded by Hamas gunmen.

SOURCE: | By KARIN LAUB and MOHAMMED DARAGHMEH Posted: 08/26/2014

IMMEDIATE STEPS

* Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza agree to halt all rocket and mortar fire intoIsrael.
* Israel will stop all military action including air strikes and ground operations.
* Israel agrees to open more of its border crossings with Gaza to allow the easier flow of goods, including humanitarian aid and reconstruction equipment, into the coastal enclave. This was also part of a ceasefire agreement after the last conflict between Israel and Hamas in November 2012, but was never fully implemented.
* In a separate, bilateral agreement, Egypt will agree to open its 14 km (8 mile) border with Gaza at Rafah.
* The Palestinian Authority, headed by President Mahmoud Abbas, is expected to take over responsibility for administering Gaza's borders from Hamas. Israel and Egypt hope it will ensure weapons, ammunition and any "dual-use" goods are prevented from entering Gaza. They also expect tight monitoring of imports of construction materials like cement and cast iron to make sure they are used to rebuild or build homes rather than tunnels that have been used to attack Israel.
* The Palestinian Authority will lead coordination of the reconstruction effort in Gaza with international donors, including the European Union, Qatar, Turkey and Norway.
* Israel is expected to narrow the security buffer - a no-go area for Palestinians that runs along the inside of the Gaza border - reducing it from 300 metres to 100 meters if the truce holds. The move will allow Palestinians more access to farm land close to the border.
* Israel will extend the fishing limit off Gaza's coast to six miles from three miles, with the possibility of widening it gradually if the truce holds. Ultimately, the Palestinians want to return to a full 12-mile international allowance. This was also part of the previous ceasefire deal in 2012, and was briefly implemented before being rescinded in March 2013.​

LONGER TERM ISSUES TO BE DISCUSSED

* Hamas wants Israel to release hundreds of Palestinian prisoners rounded up in the occupied West Bank following the abduction and killing of three Jewish seminary students in June, an attack that led to the war. Hamas initially denied involvement in the killings, but a senior Hamas official in exile in Turkey last week admitted the group did carry out the attack.
* President Abbas, who heads the Fatah party, wants freedom for long-serving Palestinian prisoners whose release was dropped after the collapse of peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.
* Israel wants Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza to hand over all body parts and personal effects of Israeli soldiers killed during the war.
* Hamas wants a sea port built in Gaza, allowing goods and people to be ferried in and out of the enclave. Israel has long rejected the plan, but it is possible that progress towards it could be made if there are absolute security guarantees. In antiquity, Gaza was a major port in the eastern Mediterranean, a critical point for spice trading. There have been plans to build a new port since the Oslo peace accords in the mid-1990s, but no progress has been made.
* Hamas wants the un-freezing of funds to allow it to pay 40,000 police, government workers and other administrative staff who have largely been without salaries since late last year. The funds were frozen by the Palestinian Authority.
* Israel has in recent weeks said it wants the full "demilitarisation" of Gaza. The United States and European Union have supported the goal, but it remains unclear what it would mean in practice and Hamas has rejected it as unfeasible. It is possible that Israel will raise it again as talks progress.
* The Palestinians also want the airport in Gaza - Yasser Arafat International, which opened in 1998 but was shut down in 2000 after it was bombed by Israel - to be rebuilt.
​

SOURCE: REUTERS --- Reporting by Nidal al-Mughrabi; Writing by Luke Baker; Editing by Robin Pomeroy GAZA/JERUSALEM Wed Aug 27, 2014

This is not an Armistice. And it is not the end. It is breathing space for HAMAS to reconstitute its forces.

Secretary General Ban Ki-moon of the United Nations welcomed the cease-fire but said in a statement, “The blockade of Gaza must end; Israel’s legitimate security concerns must be addressed.” He warned, “Any peace effort that does not tackle the root causes of the crisis will do little more than set the stage for the next cycle of violence.” (New York Times By JODI RUDORENAUG. 26, 2014)​

My understanding is that about two-thirds of the HAMAS arsenal is exhausted or destroyed; and that Israel has discovered and destroyed most of the tunnel network systems used by Jihadist insurgents to infiltrate Israel.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sunni Man]

Hamas has scored a major victory.

But the ultimate victory still remains in the future. .....

 

[Lipush]

Dar Al Harb- The land that is still not conquered by Islam, the land in which Muslims are requested to fight the indifels until it's Dar Al Islam.

 

[I.P.Freely]

Why has Israeli Minister Uzi Landau accused Bibi of wanting peace at any price, what was the price? 64 dead IDF and hundreds seriously injured for what?

To get rid of tunnels that were entering Israel, to destroy as many rockets and rocket launchers as possible and to kill as many Hamas scum also.

According to Lipush who lives in southern Israel non of that wish list has been achieved.Why did Bibi not put the cease fire to a vote in his security council?

That's....not what I've said. The rockets inside Israel that we know of were destroyed, + other 33 tunnles. We also destroyed launchers.

But we could have dealt with the situation better, and gain something more from the ceasefire. That, adding to the fact that Netanyahu didn't council with the ministers, something he was obligated to do before responding 'yes' to the Egyptian offer. That is why many don't like his actions now.

so you do not remember your response to me, saying you lived in southern Israel and you were still scared of the rockets and tunnels?

I'm still afraid of the rockets they will create again and the launchers they'll build and the tunnles they'll dig.

Still doesn't mean we achieved nothing in what was done

Two completely different things.

I've been mowing my lawns for over 10 years, they were originally laid in 1951. I kill as many weeds as I can each year but they still come back.What does Israel want out of the Gaza offensive - Vox

 

[Phoenall]

Hamas has scored a major victory.

But the ultimate victory still remains in the future. .....

Get it right sunshine hamas was beaten and you know it, they lost most of their fighters and weapons and need time to re-arm and re-supply. There is no ultimate victory just more death and destruction if the Palestinians don't force peace talks

 

[Phoenall]

Why has Israeli Minister Uzi Landau accused Bibi of wanting peace at any price, what was the price? 64 dead IDF and hundreds seriously injured for what?

To get rid of tunnels that were entering Israel, to destroy as many rockets and rocket launchers as possible and to kill as many Hamas scum also.

According to Lipush who lives in southern Israel non of that wish list has been achieved.Why did Bibi not put the cease fire to a vote in his security council?

That's....not what I've said. The rockets inside Israel that we know of were destroyed, + other 33 tunnles. We also destroyed launchers.

But we could have dealt with the situation better, and gain something more from the ceasefire. That, adding to the fact that Netanyahu didn't council with the ministers, something he was obligated to do before responding 'yes' to the Egyptian offer. That is why many don't like his actions now.

so you do not remember your response to me, saying you lived in southern Israel and you were still scared of the rockets and tunnels?

I'm still afraid of the rockets they will create again and the launchers they'll build and the tunnles they'll dig.

Still doesn't mean we achieved nothing in what was done

Two completely different things.

I've been mowing my lawns for over 10 years, they were originally laid in 1951. I kill as many weeds as I can each year but they still come back.What does Israel want out of the Gaza offensive - Vox

Then you need a stronger systemic weedkiller that will kill them before they have a chance to grow. This is what should be done in gaza to stop the terrorists from ever growing again. The Palestinians in the west bank have learnt that Israel is good for their economics and well being, and now it is just a hard core of a few terrorists that are causing trouble.

 

[Indeependent]

Israel needs a PM with gumption.

 

[docmauser1]

Hamas has scored a major victory. But the ultimate victory still remains in the future.

Do they sell what they smoke too?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Hamas has scored a major victory.

But the ultimate victory still remains in the future. .....

I still remember what you typed on in the thread of Fox News says Sharia Law is Taking Over Because of a Muslim Women;s Swim Class. You typed that there is a Muslim in the White House and soon all of America will be Muslim.

 

[Sunni Man]

Hamas has scored a major victory.

But the ultimate victory still remains in the future. .....

I still remember what you typed on in the thread of Fox News says Sharia Law is Taking Over Because of a Muslim Women;s Swim Class. You typed that there is a Muslim in the White House and soon all of America will be Muslim.

And?? ....

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Hamas has scored a major victory.

But the ultimate victory still remains in the future. .....

I still remember what you typed on in the thread of Fox News says Sharia Law is Taking Over Because of a Muslim Women;s Swim Class. You typed that there is a Muslim in the White House and soon all of America will be Muslim.

And?? ....

So we all know that nothing you say is of any worth.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Lipush]

So the Palestinians should stop their wars.