Paying people off to avoid a scandal is perfectly legal

[Faun]

The candidate
When candidates use or loan their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits.

Who can and can't contribute - FEC.gov

That’s a strawman. No one is saying he exceeded a campaign finance limit.

 

[SweetSue92]

It's been entertaining watching these Leftists lose their MINDS finally and entirely over what is not even a campaign finance violation.

Trump makes them lose their minds.

Entertaining. To say the least.

 

[Olde Europe]

"A violation of campaign finance law is only a crime punishable by imprisonment"

I already demonstrated that's not true.

You demonstrated that campaign finance law violations cannot be crimes punishable by imprisonment? How did you do that?

I pointed out how Obama was fined for violating campaign finance laws. Is it really that hard for you to keep up??

You still don't understand what creates the difference between a mere civil violation and a crime in the realm of campaign finance law, even though I explained it several times. Let me, again, suggest you read the article I linked. It should help you get rid of your erroneous assumptions.

 

[Faun]

I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...

It's illegal if you don't report it.

When candidates use their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits. They must, however, be reported.

Contributions made from the candidate’s personal funds must be reported. The reporting varies according to whether the personal funds of the candidate were loaned or contributed directly to the candidate’s authorized committee, or whether the funds were spent by the candidate out-of-pocket.
Using the personal funds of the candidate - FEC.gov

It wasn't a campaign expense, moron.

Of course it was. As you’ve been shown repeatedly, ”anything” of value for the purpose of influencing an election is a campaign contribution:

 

[Faun]

"A violation of campaign finance law is only a crime punishable by imprisonment"

I already demonstrated that's not true.

You demonstrated that campaign finance law violations cannot be crimes punishable by imprisonment? How did you do that?

I pointed out how Obama was fined for violating campaign finance laws. Is it really that hard for you to keep up??

You still don't understand what creates the difference between a mere civil violation and a crime in the realm of campaign finance law, even though I explained it several times. Let me, again, suggest you read the article I linked. It should help you get rid of your erroneous assumptions.

Don’t need to read it. You posted violations of campaign finance laws are “only” laws punishable by imprisonment. I proved you wrong. There is nothing thing you can post which will change that.

 

[Faun]

I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...

It's illegal if you don't report it.

When candidates use their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits. They must, however, be reported.

Contributions made from the candidate’s personal funds must be reported. The reporting varies according to whether the personal funds of the candidate were loaned or contributed directly to the candidate’s authorized committee, or whether the funds were spent by the candidate out-of-pocket.
Using the personal funds of the candidate - FEC.gov

It wasn't a campaign expense, moron.

Uh...yep it was if it was used to pay off a person to prevent her from divulging information that might damage your campaign.
Moran.

Nope. The "information" would damage him personally.

How could it damage him personally? It’s public knowledge now and he hasn’t suffered personally.

 

[Faun]

so did she or did she not get paid to have sex in porn movies

a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : prostitute; also, informal + offensive : a promiscuous or im

Definition of WHORE

A Porn movie star isn't a prostitute.

Do you realize how stupid you sound right now by trying to take a higher moral ground... while you support a President who lies 10+ times a day and has cheated on all his wives?

A prostitute engages in sexual activity with someone for payment. A Porn star also engages in sexual activity with someone for payment. The difference is who pays.

One is legal; one is not.

 

[Faun]

A Porn movie star isn't a prostitute.

Do you realize how stupid you sound right now by trying to take a higher moral ground... while you support a President who lies 10+ times a day and has cheated on all his wives?

sure they are according to the dictionaries

a women who has sex for money

DID SHE OR DID SHE NOT GET PAID FOR HAVING SEX ON FILMS

but hey like i said great she is the face of the socialist democrat party soccer moms across the nation

will be sure to sign up

She is an ACTRESS in a porn movie. This is so sad this has to be explained to you.

indeed the the average person across the country

will be happy to see as one of the new faces of the socialist democrat party

maybe she can speak at the convention with a cop killer or two

or with a ms-13 gang member more of base

Do you want me to post the picture of Trump posing with the convicted pedophile? Or Scott Baio who has been accused of bullying kids on set and having sex with minors? What a silly statement to make.

The wild story of how a convicted pedophile got his picture taken with Trump

Bill "drop trou" made HOW many trips to Epstein's pedophile Island and half the time he ditched his security team? People can get a photo-op with people that are famous without proper vetting, dumb ass.

You’re crazy, delusional dale. Prove Clinton made any trips to pedophile island....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The candidate
When candidates use or loan their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits.

Who can and can't contribute - FEC.gov

I am glad you agree the payments were campaign expenses. And yes, the candidate can give as much as they want, but both the contribution and the expenses have to be reported by the campaign.

That did not happen.

 

[Olde Europe]

Don’t need to read it. You posted violations of campaign finance laws are “only” laws punishable by imprisonment. I proved you wrong. There is nothing thing you can post which will change that.

Read as often as necessary to discover your misconception:

"A violation of campaign finance law is only a crime punishable by imprisonment, as opposed to a civil offense punishable only by fine, if an individual’s violation of the restrictions was knowing and willful."

 

[Harpy Eagle]

why are you always so off base ??? seriously


yes it is possible to plead out to fake crime

that is exactly what happened here

it is also possible for the innicent to plead guilty to offences

this is why plead cases have no bearing on precedent

So, you are saying then that they charged him with a fake crime, so that he could then plead guilty to the fake crime?

That is really your story and then you talk to me about being off base? Holy **** dude, you sound like that Repub from Florida that says she was abducted by aliens that looked like Jesus. Actually her story is more believable than yours

more or less that is what happened

both of these are not crimes

making an excessive campaign contribution and causing an unlawful corporate contribution

who did trump make a contribution to ?? huh asshole

it is not a crime for him to give as money as he chooses to his own campaign (fake crime)

causing an unlawful corporate contribution

again he can contribute as much as he wants to his campaign

Who can and can't contribute - FEC.gov

as usual you are being played

Now that you have established that the payments were campaign expenses, can you show where the contribution by Trump was reported to the FEC? Can you show where the expenses of paying off the two women was reported to the FEC?

 

[MarcATL]

I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...

But what's NOT legal, is using political campaign funds to do it.

Look how far you bastards have fallen.

#LOLGOP SMHGOP

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I'm still waiting for one of the Prog Loons to 'SPLAIN how a plea agreement which is not part of case law turns into a legal precedent.

even better the guy plead guilty to a charge that was not a crime

--LOL

You’re stating that
An attorney plead guilty to a charge that wasn’t a crime.

Sell bullshit somewhere else.

yes that is exactly right

eventually when nothing happens to Trump

and your butthurt grows uncontrolled

you will realize you have been played once again

but for now carry on with your

"we really REALLY got him this time" crap

--LOL@UTROLL

It is not possible to plead guilty to something not a crime. In order to plead guilty you have to be charged, in order to be charged there has to be a crime.


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It's entirely possible to mischaracterize your actions to make them appear criminal when in reality they weren't. That's the pound of flesh Cohen gave the prosecutors for his deal.

.

So, Trump's lawyer was so stupid that he did not know that this was happening and pleaded guilty to the fake charges anyhow?

Damn, Trump has terrible judgment in people if his lawyer is that ******* stupid.

 

[bripat9643]

I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...

It's illegal if you don't report it.

When candidates use their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits. They must, however, be reported.

Contributions made from the candidate’s personal funds must be reported. The reporting varies according to whether the personal funds of the candidate were loaned or contributed directly to the candidate’s authorized committee, or whether the funds were spent by the candidate out-of-pocket.
Using the personal funds of the candidate - FEC.gov

It wasn't a campaign expense, moron.

Of course it was. As you’ve been shown repeatedly, ”anything” of value for the purpose of influencing an election is a campaign contribution:

I've shown that we all have the right to own machine guns.

 

[bripat9643]

I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...

But what's NOT legal, is using political campaign funds to do it.

Look how far you bastards have fallen.

#LOLGOP SMHGOP

He didn't use campaign funds, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

even better the guy plead guilty to a charge that was not a crime

--LOL

You’re stating that
An attorney plead guilty to a charge that wasn’t a crime.

Sell bullshit somewhere else.

yes that is exactly right

eventually when nothing happens to Trump

and your butthurt grows uncontrolled

you will realize you have been played once again

but for now carry on with your

"we really REALLY got him this time" crap

--LOL@UTROLL

It is not possible to plead guilty to something not a crime. In order to plead guilty you have to be charged, in order to be charged there has to be a crime.


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

It's entirely possible to mischaracterize your actions to make them appear criminal when in reality they weren't. That's the pound of flesh Cohen gave the prosecutors for his deal.

.

So, Trump's lawyer was so stupid that he did not know that this was happening and pleaded guilty to the fake charges anyhow?

Damn, Trump has terrible judgment in people if his lawyer is that ******* stupid.

Lanny Davis is a Clinton drone. Why would he care if the charges are fake?

 

[bripat9643]

I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...

It's illegal if you don't report it.

When candidates use their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits. They must, however, be reported.

Contributions made from the candidate’s personal funds must be reported. The reporting varies according to whether the personal funds of the candidate were loaned or contributed directly to the candidate’s authorized committee, or whether the funds were spent by the candidate out-of-pocket.
Using the personal funds of the candidate - FEC.gov

It wasn't a campaign expense, moron.

Uh...yep it was if it was used to pay off a person to prevent her from divulging information that might damage your campaign.
Moran.

Nope. The "information" would damage him personally.

How could it damage him personally? It’s public knowledge now and he hasn’t suffered personally.

Only an imbecile would make a claim like that.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You’re stating that
An attorney plead guilty to a charge that wasn’t a crime.

Sell bullshit somewhere else.

yes that is exactly right

eventually when nothing happens to Trump

and your butthurt grows uncontrolled

you will realize you have been played once again

but for now carry on with your

"we really REALLY got him this time" crap

--LOL@UTROLL

It is not possible to plead guilty to something not a crime. In order to plead guilty you have to be charged, in order to be charged there has to be a crime.


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

It's entirely possible to mischaracterize your actions to make them appear criminal when in reality they weren't. That's the pound of flesh Cohen gave the prosecutors for his deal.

.

So, Trump's lawyer was so stupid that he did not know that this was happening and pleaded guilty to the fake charges anyhow?

Damn, Trump has terrible judgment in people if his lawyer is that ******* stupid.

Lanny Davis is a Clinton drone. Why would he care if the charges are fake?

I was speaking of Cohen, not Davis...you know the one that was actually Trump's lawyer.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...

But what's NOT legal, is using political campaign funds to do it.

Look how far you bastards have fallen.

#LOLGOP SMHGOP

He didn't use campaign funds, moron.

Which is the problem, non-campaign funds were used for a campaign expense.

 

[Faun]

I'm not sure why, but it seems the Democrats think that paying off a woman to be quiet about a scandal is somehow illegal. Well, it isn't.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering what any of this has to do with collusion with Russia...

It's illegal if you don't report it.

When candidates use their personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their campaigns. Unlike other contributions, these candidate contributions are not subject to any limits. They must, however, be reported.

Contributions made from the candidate’s personal funds must be reported. The reporting varies according to whether the personal funds of the candidate were loaned or contributed directly to the candidate’s authorized committee, or whether the funds were spent by the candidate out-of-pocket.
Using the personal funds of the candidate - FEC.gov

It wasn't a campaign expense, moron.

Of course it was. As you’ve been shown repeatedly, ”anything” of value for the purpose of influencing an election is a campaign contribution:

I've shown that we all have the right to own machine guns.

No, you’ve shown you’re a ******* moron. “anything” of value for the purpose of influencing an election is a campaign contribution.