Patterns of distortion in American statements about Ukrainian crisis

[luiza]

As ever and based on the majority of the early posts , a basic problem is lack of comprehension —- if they even read all of the OPs thoughtful contribution .

 

[ColonelAngus]

The Ukraine asslickers are literally supporting Nazis who repeatedly attacked Rusdian nationals in Donbas.

CONGRATS, YOU ARE LITERALLY NAZIS.

 

[Lesh]

Where is your Niger flag, you fraud. France is bombing Niger and some of their neighbors are about to invade. A soverign nation.

We should send billions to Niger, right?

You are so ignorant. Anyone who wants the war to end us a PUTIN APOLOGIST.

So fucking stupid.

You are a useful idiot of the MIC. Congrats.

Explain to me the entire political and social situation in Ukraine prior to this war. Are you even capable? Do you know anything?

You want the “entire political and social situation” detailed here?

Pretty simple. Russia invaded a sovereign neighbor.

As to Niger, as of now all I know is that the military staged a coup and ousted the elected government.

 

[ColonelAngus]

You want the “entire political and social situation” detailed here?

Pretty simple. Russia invaded a sovereign neighbor.

As to Niger, as of now all I know is that the military staged a coup and ousted the elected government.

Ok, Nazi supporter.

 

[Lesh]

The Ukraine asslickers are literally supporting Nazis who repeatedly attacked Rusdian nationals in Donbas.

CONGRATS, YOU ARE LITERALLY NAZIS.

Horse shit.

The President and Defense Minister of Ukraine are… read this slowly

JEWISH

 

[ColonelAngus]

Horse shit.

The President and Defense Minister of Ukraine are… read this slowly

JEWISH

Whether you know it or not, You are a Nazi and you support the destruction of Ukraine in the name of tribal politics. Congrats.

 

[Lesh]

Whether you know it or not, You are a Nazi and you support the destruction of Ukraine in the name of tribal politics. Congrats.

Whether you know it or not, you are a Putin stooge

Congrats

 

[ColonelAngus]

Whether you know it or not, you are a Putin stooge

Congrats

You support the destructon of Ukraine and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians.

So Nazi of you.

 

[Burgermeister]

Oh look...a new kremlin troll joins the board

Labelling

 

[Dragonlady]

Where is your Niger flag, you fraud. France is bombing Niger and some of their neighbors are about to invade. A soverign nation.

We should send billions to Niger, right?

You are so ignorant. Anyone who wants the war to end us a PUTIN APOLOGIST.

So fucking stupid.

You are a useful idiot of the MIC. Congrats.

Explain to me the entire political and social situation in Ukraine prior to this war. Are you even capable? Do you know anything?

EVERYONE wants the war to end, you stupid fuck!!! But not with Russia taking more land from the Ukraine. The world stood by and let Putin have his way in the Crimea, because they had no faith in the Ukraine becoming a truly democratic nation. And that emboldened Putin to continue with his expansion program.

Trump basically told Zelensky to "settle with Putin". After withholding Congressionally approved aid and illegally refusing to release desperately needed weapons to the Ukrainians, months after all of the Congressional criteria had been met. It was clear that Trump wasn't prepared to help him further.

 

[Dragonlady]

You support the destructon of Ukraine and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians.

So Nazi of you.

We support the right of the Ukrainian people to determine their own choices and they have voted overwhelmingly, to fight Russia's illegal aggression.

Why are you siding with Vladimir Putin - a murderous war criminal who has, throughout his life, inflicted horrific civilian terror and casualities in Syria, and the Ukraine, as well as other FSU nations?

The man has been working to undermine Western Democracy including interfering in numerous elections in western nations, including your own.

Don't come here and post your lying Russian propaganda asshole, because we're not buying any of your lies and bullshit.

 

[JohnDB]

The Ukraine asslickers are literally supporting Nazis who repeatedly attacked Rusdian nationals in Donbas.

CONGRATS, YOU ARE LITERALLY NAZIS.

This isn't true. I know what Russia said. But the true residents of Donbass who speak Russian (as does half of Kiev) were helping the AFU target the Russian nationalist settlements in the Donbass region. Those were who were getting shelled. They migrated to Donbass solely to destabilize the region.

 

[ColonelAngus]

This isn't true. I know what Russia said. But the true residents of Donbass who speak Russian (as does half of Kiev) were helping the AFU target the Russian nationslist settlements in the Donbass region. Those were who were getting shelled.

Yes it is true

 

[JohnDB]

Yes it is true

Russian propaganda campaigns are in your news feed.

Exactly how have you vetted your news sources? And the real Americans who repeat Russian propaganda; have you looked into their sources?

I've gone and translated what the real residents of these places have said and their messages have not changed. Oh there's been a lot of phoney rumors and overblown hype too....but the kidnapping of children and the rape of women by the soldiers is very true....so are the Russian settlements.

I haven't personally been to Easten Ukraine but I've been in that part of the world and gotten to know the people. Russia is very much the "Bad guy" here.

 

[MinTrut]

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There are several trends in modern psychology which study the so-called psychologic or cognitive distortions; the founders of the most famous such trends were Albert Ellis and Aaron Beck.
One essential part of the above-mentioned studies is detection of patterns of distortion which create an incorrect picture of the world.
And I am going to show in this article that American politicians and media use patterns of distortion in their statements about Ukrainian crisis.​

Spoiler

Pattern “Labelling”
When somebody uses this pattern, he does not inform his audience about facts but labels certain persons or events.
Example
Barak Obama named Viktor Yanukovych – who had been unconstitutionally removed from power in 2014 - a corrupt ruler; please see The New York Post.
After Yanukovych’s removal from power, new Ukrainian authorities really declared that he had stolen more than 100 billion USD; please see here.
But these authorities have been failing for almost ten years to prove that Yanukovych had stolen one single cent.
Therefore, Mr. Obama’s words about a “corrupt ruler” still remain only a label.

Pattern “Mind Reading”
When somebody uses this pattern, he alleges that he knows other persons’ thoughts, wishes and other phenomena which are inside their minds.
Example
After the beginning of the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine in 2022, Joe Biden declared that the Russian President Vladimir Putin “wanted to, in fact, reestablish the former Soviet Union”; please see the official website of the White House.
But since nobody is able to know phenomena which are inside other people’s minds, this statement of Mr. Biden is only an allegation.
The Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine can also be explained by other reasons – not only by somebody's alleged desire to reestablish something.
For example, it can be explained by Ukrainian threats in 2021 with military measures for “re-integration of the Crimea” into Ukraine; please see the official website of Ukrainian President.
Since - as you know all – the Russian government considers the Crimea as an integral part of Russian sovereign territory.

Pattern “Filtering”
When somebody uses this pattern, he omits a part of information in his statements on a subject although this information is essential for understanding this subject.
Example
I am sure that before and after the beginning of the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine you never saw in Western media information about Ukrainian threats with military measures for “re-integration of the Crimea” into Ukraine; please see the preceding item about pattern “Mind Reading”.
Or, during the first phase of the Ukrainian crisis – during the so-called Euromaidan- you never saw in Western media information that at some point the pro-Western protesters began to burn and kill; please see the thread Was there a threat for ethnic Russians in February 2014 in Ukraine (Crimean question)?

Pattern “Shoulds”
When somebody uses this pattern, he operates from a list of inflexible rules about how other people should act and views these rules as right and indisputable. Albert Ellis dubbed this pattern “musterbation” and Karen Horney called it the “tyranny of should.”
Example
The then Vice-President Joe Biden declared in 2015 that “the collective objective of the U.S. and its European allies must be to preserve the territorial integrity of Ukraine; to reassert the principle that borders are inviolate”; please see the Voice of America.
But seven years earlier, when the Kosovo Parliament had declared independence of this Serbian province from Serbia in February 2008, the U.S. recognized Kosovo as independent on the very next day.
And earlier, at the end of the 1990s, the U.S. had conducted a military operation in Serbia to force the Serbian army and police to leave Kosovo; please see the thread The U.S. attitude to Yugoslavia and to Ukraine.
It means that preserving of territorial integrity of a country in some cases is a must in American politicians’ opinion; but in other cases, it is not a must at all.​

Source

Those in power lie?

The MSM amplifies these lies?

World War III is bad?

 

[MinTrut]

The demented LEFT Democrats THRIVE on all the CRISIES they CREATE.
War, open borders, COVID, to name a few.
That's how these subverted Marxist assholes roll.
All for their ANTI-AMERICAN cause!!!

Liberal, not left.

The left opposes USG crimes in Ukraine.

 

[MinTrut]

Oh look...a new kremlin troll joins the board

Dude - you’ve been here for 7 years.

But thanks for the heads up.

Did you have a comment on the topic, or just fallacious smears?

 

[MinTrut]

99% of the morons waving Ukraine flags have no idea about the history of the 2014 USA backed coup of a duly elected Ukraine leader.

They are ignorant as fuck.

Thread win.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Liberal, not left.

The left opposes USG crimes in Ukraine.

Demented avenger subverted demoralized Stalinist Marxist Leninist zombies they ARE!!!!!!

 

[MinTrut]

Lloyd Austin admitted this war is to exhaust Russia and reduce its capacity to fight anywhre else in the world and our purpose is regime change in Russia.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH UKRAINE. WE ARE DESTROYING UKRAINE AND ITS PEOPLE.

You stupid stupid stupid cult fucks.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/25/politics/biden-administration-russia-strategy/index.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/25/russia-weakened-lloyd-austin-ukraine-visit/

^ Winning the thread again.