Pastor Admits To 'Sexual Incident' With A Minor, Gets Applauded By Congregation

[Defiant1]

Memphis megachurch pastor Andy Savage received a standing ovation in church on Sunday after apologizing for assaulting a woman when she was a high school student.

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A few things to note:

1. "more than 20 years ago" - this is said repeatedly and is meant to minimize what happened
   
2. he continues to call it a sexual "incident" rather than sexual assault
   
3. he says he took full responsibility for his actions, but what he did was actually illegal, and he did not take any take any legal responsibility
   
4. he says he shared every aspect of what he did with his wife before he asked her to marry him - the implicit framing here is that the issue is about sexual purity rather than sexual assault and abuse of power
   
5. he says "I never sought to cover this up" - but where in all his teaching about sexual purity has he admitted to sexually assaulting a minor under his spiritual care?
   
6. the lead pastor prays that God would touch the heart of the victim and "heal her of the pain that was caused from this sin 20 years ago" - notice again the minimizing use of the time frame, as well as the use of the word "sin"
   
7. the use of the word "sin" carries the subtle implication of her participation in a shared failure rather than her victimization
   
8. the lead pastor says "Guess what, this sin did not happen in the last couple days. This sin happened over 20 years ago. That does not minimize the sin." - I can't see why they would continue to emphasize how long ago this happened for any reason other than to minimize it
   
9. the lead pastor says, "none of us want anyone to throw a stone. Why? Because you never heal by hurting others." - the implication is that telling the truth is throwing a stone, and that asking for the truth to be told is hurtful

Source: Stacey Simpson Duke (@revdrduke) | Twitter

So what do you guys think about this?

Meh, I don't go to church.

 

[mdk]

I think the average age of a first year high school student in that state is over the age of consent. According to the press release you supplied she was one year OVER the age of consent at 17.

in TN its 18.
We believe in kids at least having 3/4 developed lungs before getting groped by AARP perverts.

Puritan. lol

 

[JOSweetHeart]

The guy takes full responsibility for what he did. How many other people guilty of what he did are willing to go that far?

God bless you and him and his victim always!!!

Holly

 

[MindWars]

So Hollywood whores are doing the same thing to Weinstein the Rapist leftist have real mental issues ...
They support Weinstein, they vote Bill Clinton, then they support his wife who gets child rapist off..

and ppl have the balls to poke fun at a pastor Mmmmk. Oh I get as long as it's a religion the CHRISTIAN religion only now mind you it's a horrible act.

But Muslims who marry 9 yr olds that's just perfectly fine........ You fkrs( leftist, democratic, antifa...etc...) are so twisted in the head you define the meaning of MENTAL ILLNESS......................

 

[Lysistrata]

Points one through nine well taken. Mr. Purity Himself didn't apologize until after Woodson exposed his "sin." Arguing "age of consent" is really meaningless in a situation in which an experienced adult, who is a clergy member teaching abstinence, deliberately drives a 17-year-old, who probably has not ever been in a sexual situation before, to a secluded area to take sexual advantage of her. I wonder if these people who gave this guy an ovation would have responded the same way if he had done the same thing to a 17-year-old boy.

So many of the people who claim to be Christians nowadays are nothing but hypocrites. And these "megachurches" all seem to be run by kooks.

Kinda like liberals has a nine year old boy, modeling for them in drag? That kinda taking advantage of. Now after that, I think what the pastor did was sick, like the way Clinton took advantage of a young intern.

Purity

Such deflection! You skipped right over the part that he was an adult, who was a clergy member who taught "purity" and "abstinence" to his charges, who deliberately used subterfuge to spirit one of them, who had probably never been in a sexual situation and probably had not been taught anything about sex, off to a secluded place and then demanded oral sex and fondled her, and then waited 20 years until she challenged him, and "confessed" two days later. An eight-year-old drag queen/model in Toronto is an entire different issue.

 

[Bonzi]

Memphis megachurch pastor Andy Savage received a standing ovation in church on Sunday after apologizing for assaulting a woman when she was a high school student.

Church ovation as pastor accused of sexually assaulting teen apologizes for his ‘sin’
Christian Publisher Cancels Marriage Book by Pastor Andy Savage After He Admits to Sexually Assaulting Teen



A few things to note:

1. "more than 20 years ago" - this is said repeatedly and is meant to minimize what happened
   
2. he continues to call it a sexual "incident" rather than sexual assault
   
3. he says he took full responsibility for his actions, but what he did was actually illegal, and he did not take any take any legal responsibility
   
4. he says he shared every aspect of what he did with his wife before he asked her to marry him - the implicit framing here is that the issue is about sexual purity rather than sexual assault and abuse of power
   
5. he says "I never sought to cover this up" - but where in all his teaching about sexual purity has he admitted to sexually assaulting a minor under his spiritual care?
   
6. the lead pastor prays that God would touch the heart of the victim and "heal her of the pain that was caused from this sin 20 years ago" - notice again the minimizing use of the time frame, as well as the use of the word "sin"
   
7. the use of the word "sin" carries the subtle implication of her participation in a shared failure rather than her victimization
   
8. the lead pastor says "Guess what, this sin did not happen in the last couple days. This sin happened over 20 years ago. That does not minimize the sin." - I can't see why they would continue to emphasize how long ago this happened for any reason other than to minimize it
   
9. the lead pastor says, "none of us want anyone to throw a stone. Why? Because you never heal by hurting others." - the implication is that telling the truth is throwing a stone, and that asking for the truth to be told is hurtful

Source: Stacey Simpson Duke (@revdrduke) | Twitter

So what do you guys think about this?

I will applaud if they throw his ass in jail

 

[Correll]

I think the average age of a first year high school student in that state is over the age of consent. According to the press release you supplied she was one year OVER the age of consent at 17.

but she didn't consent--it was sexual assault

I just read her account.

He asked her to do something. She did it.

Her word, "asked".


She was over the age of consent. This is not assault.


She later says, " she felt manipulated and used,".


HE is a sleaze, but not a rapist.

THe Church applauded his apology.



So, we done here?

 

[Aba Incieni]

Points one through nine well taken. Mr. Purity Himself didn't apologize until after Woodson exposed his "sin." Arguing "age of consent" is really meaningless in a situation in which an experienced adult, who is a clergy member teaching abstinence, deliberately drives a 17-year-old, who probably has not ever been in a sexual situation before, to a secluded area to take sexual advantage of her. I wonder if these people who gave this guy an ovation would have responded the same way if he had done the same thing to a 17-year-old boy.

So many of the people who claim to be Christians nowadays are nothing but hypocrites. And these "megachurches" all seem to be run by kooks.

Kinda like liberals has a nine year old boy, modeling for them in drag? That kinda taking advantage of. Now after that, I think what the pastor did was sick, like the way Clinton took advantage of a young intern.

Purity

Such deflection! You skipped right over the part that he was an adult, who was a clergy member who taught "purity" and "abstinence" to his charges, who deliberately used subterfuge to spirit one of them, who had probably never been in a sexual situation and probably had not been taught anything about sex, off to a secluded place and then demanded oral sex and fondled her, and then waited 20 years until she challenged him, and "confessed" two days later. An eight-year-old drag queen/model in Toronto is an entire different issue.

Poor Nell! Trapped in the clutches of Snidely Whiplash! Where was Dudley?

 

[MarcATL]

MarcATL, that's a little deep for this audience, you'll confuse them as the replies show. I wonder didn't Franken apologize and how did our religious feel about him? Hear any cheers? No need to answer as tribalism takes over the mind. The intro was like a Broadway production, unreal, I've never quite understood the cultist aspect of religions, the ceremonial fan like emotion and trance like singing and praising. I didn't listen to the entire piece, but the apology from the one pastor was a bit much. The Mary Magdalena episode, 'he without sin cast the first stone', do religious follow that in real life one wonders. And then one poster makes it partisan too funny. I think the audience got tied up in the emotion of the moment, fans rather than thinkers or parents, but the church and the publisher are taking it a bit more serious.

'Church ovation as pastor accused of sexually assaulting teen apologizes for his ‘sin’

'Christian Publisher Cancels Marriage Book by Pastor Andy Savage After He Admits to Sexually Assaulting Teen'

Church ovation as pastor accused of sexually assaulting teen apologizes for his ‘sin’

"When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow." Anais Nin

Brother midcan5,

Religion isn't bad, Christianity isn't bad, it's just prone to perversion by those that are evil and power hungry. e.g. those that promoted, supported and/or excused slavery, segregation and/or racism in it's hey day and beyond.

God is real, and His Word is real. Man is fallible....clearly.

 

[deanrd]

Memphis megachurch pastor Andy Savage received a standing ovation in church on Sunday after apologizing for assaulting a woman when she was a high school student.

Church ovation as pastor accused of sexually assaulting teen apologizes for his ‘sin’
Christian Publisher Cancels Marriage Book by Pastor Andy Savage After He Admits to Sexually Assaulting Teen



A few things to note:

1. "more than 20 years ago" - this is said repeatedly and is meant to minimize what happened
   
2. he continues to call it a sexual "incident" rather than sexual assault
   
3. he says he took full responsibility for his actions, but what he did was actually illegal, and he did not take any take any legal responsibility
   
4. he says he shared every aspect of what he did with his wife before he asked her to marry him - the implicit framing here is that the issue is about sexual purity rather than sexual assault and abuse of power
   
5. he says "I never sought to cover this up" - but where in all his teaching about sexual purity has he admitted to sexually assaulting a minor under his spiritual care?
   
6. the lead pastor prays that God would touch the heart of the victim and "heal her of the pain that was caused from this sin 20 years ago" - notice again the minimizing use of the time frame, as well as the use of the word "sin"
   
7. the use of the word "sin" carries the subtle implication of her participation in a shared failure rather than her victimization
   
8. the lead pastor says "Guess what, this sin did not happen in the last couple days. This sin happened over 20 years ago. That does not minimize the sin." - I can't see why they would continue to emphasize how long ago this happened for any reason other than to minimize it
   
9. the lead pastor says, "none of us want anyone to throw a stone. Why? Because you never heal by hurting others." - the implication is that telling the truth is throwing a stone, and that asking for the truth to be told is hurtful

Source: Stacey Simpson Duke (@revdrduke) | Twitter

So what do you guys think about this?

If he was honest, he would hold his head up.

They applauded because he "got some" and it wan't a guy.

 

[Aba Incieni]

MarcATL, that's a little deep for this audience, you'll confuse them as the replies show. I wonder didn't Franken apologize and how did our religious feel about him? Hear any cheers? No need to answer as tribalism takes over the mind. The intro was like a Broadway production, unreal, I've never quite understood the cultist aspect of religions, the ceremonial fan like emotion and trance like singing and praising. I didn't listen to the entire piece, but the apology from the one pastor was a bit much. The Mary Magdalena episode, 'he without sin cast the first stone', do religious follow that in real life one wonders. And then one poster makes it partisan too funny. I think the audience got tied up in the emotion of the moment, fans rather than thinkers or parents, but the church and the publisher are taking it a bit more serious.

'Church ovation as pastor accused of sexually assaulting teen apologizes for his ‘sin’

'Christian Publisher Cancels Marriage Book by Pastor Andy Savage After He Admits to Sexually Assaulting Teen'

Church ovation as pastor accused of sexually assaulting teen apologizes for his ‘sin’

"When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow." Anais Nin

Brother midcan5,

Religion isn't bad, Christianity isn't bad, it's just prone to perversion by those that are evil and power hungry. e.g. those that promoted, supported and/or excused slavery, segregation and/or racism in it's hey day and beyond.

God is real, and His Word is real. Man is fallible....clearly.

Those Democrats are over slavery. Now they're into oppression. They're very successful at it, too.

 

[MarcATL]

The guy takes full responsibility for what he did. How many other people guilty of what he did are willing to go that far?

God bless you and him and his victim always!!!

Holly

Did he take full responsibility?

You feel that way about Senator Al Franken too?

 

[harmonica]

I think the average age of a first year high school student in that state is over the age of consent. According to the press release you supplied she was one year OVER the age of consent at 17.

but she didn't consent--it was sexual assault

I just read her account.

He asked her to do something. She did it.

Her word, "asked".


She was over the age of consent. This is not assault.


She later says, " she felt manipulated and used,".


HE is a sleaze, but not a rapist.

THe Church applauded his apology.



So, we done here?

I just linked and saw other sites that he admitted to sexual assault

 

[harmonica]

I think the average age of a first year high school student in that state is over the age of consent. According to the press release you supplied she was one year OVER the age of consent at 17.

but she didn't consent--it was sexual assault

I just read her account.

He asked her to do something. She did it.

Her word, "asked".


She was over the age of consent. This is not assault.


She later says, " she felt manipulated and used,".


HE is a sleaze, but not a rapist.

THe Church applauded his apology.



So, we done here?

Later the same day, she said, she sent an email to Mr. Savage at his church. “Do you remember that night that you were supposed to drive me home from church and instead drove me to a deserted back road and sexually assaulted me?

Memphis Pastor Admits ‘Sexual Incident’ With High School Student 20 Years Ago

 

[Correll]

I think the average age of a first year high school student in that state is over the age of consent. According to the press release you supplied she was one year OVER the age of consent at 17.

but she didn't consent--it was sexual assault

I just read her account.

He asked her to do something. She did it.

Her word, "asked".


She was over the age of consent. This is not assault.


She later says, " she felt manipulated and used,".


HE is a sleaze, but not a rapist.

THe Church applauded his apology.



So, we done here?

I just linked and saw other sites that he admitted to sexual assault

So, the girl is lying?

 

[JOSweetHeart]

The guy takes full responsibility for what he did. How many other people guilty of what he did are willing to go that far?

God bless you and him and his victim always!!!

Holly

Did he take full responsibility?

You feel that way about Senator Al Franken too?

That depends. How much does he regret his choice of action?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[harmonica]

I think the average age of a first year high school student in that state is over the age of consent. According to the press release you supplied she was one year OVER the age of consent at 17.

but she didn't consent--it was sexual assault

I just read her account.

He asked her to do something. She did it.

Her word, "asked".


She was over the age of consent. This is not assault.


She later says, " she felt manipulated and used,".


HE is a sleaze, but not a rapist.

THe Church applauded his apology.



So, we done here?

A former youth minister at a church in The Woodlands is admitting to sexually assaulting a teen in his youth group in 1998

Former Texas youth minister Andy Savage admits to sexual assault of teen girl

 

[harmonica]

I think the average age of a first year high school student in that state is over the age of consent. According to the press release you supplied she was one year OVER the age of consent at 17.

but she didn't consent--it was sexual assault

I just read her account.

He asked her to do something. She did it.

Her word, "asked".


She was over the age of consent. This is not assault.


She later says, " she felt manipulated and used,".


HE is a sleaze, but not a rapist.

THe Church applauded his apology.



So, we done here?

I just linked and saw other sites that he admitted to sexual assault

So, the girl is lying?

have you posted any links??

 

[EvilCat Breath]

She had nothing to say for 20 years. Then she got the me too flu.

Case closed.

 

[Correll]

I think the average age of a first year high school student in that state is over the age of consent. According to the press release you supplied she was one year OVER the age of consent at 17.

but she didn't consent--it was sexual assault

I just read her account.

He asked her to do something. She did it.

Her word, "asked".


She was over the age of consent. This is not assault.


She later says, " she felt manipulated and used,".


HE is a sleaze, but not a rapist.

THe Church applauded his apology.



So, we done here?

I just linked and saw other sites that he admitted to sexual assault

So, the girl is lying?

have you posted any links??

I was citing the OP link.


You didn't read it?