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Strangely this is the problem I have with the church "rapture" theory:
(Matthew 24:29-31) . . .“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.
If Christ does not show up until AFTER the tribulation, how is it Christians are raptured BEFORE the tribulation?
Thus in my opinion that "rapture" premature timing (2Thess2:1-2) is the escapist mindset many claimant Christians are apt to accept and it instead supports a premature "end" expectation that will come in handy for the final cycle presentation of world government at the end of the cycle.
The globalizing engineers can just continue to feed "new insights" into the mainstream prophetic interpretation centers, and the churches can then be more reliably led into the "new world order", and handy Israel will be the final carrot for that "adjustment" in church trajectory when indeed they have found out by that time, they were here for the whole final cycle.
Mainstream church philosophers are really just centralized aids of mindsets that can be useful while the cycle is playing out towards full globalization, or "world government". "Anti-Christ" and all the common church myths, seemingly based on prophecy, have actually all been hijacked by the elites of the whole Christendom system to be used to guide those "sheep" to world government and it be accepted fully by most of them in the process over say the final 7 to 14 years from when the cycle has actually begun.
Thus imo, the further a Christian is out from that organized delusion system, the more chance they will have to actually avoid the "mark of the beast" rather than get the church 666 stencil already contained in the direction their teachings are already leaning. Meaning the "church" is already "666" to have gotten this deep in error this late in the game, and those leaders are the ones to finish the process to lead their whole populations to world government, as of course "the Kingdom of God everyone!!!".
The deeper one is in the current brainwash, the harder it is to see what is really developing overall. A good study of who has backed Israel national development the last 100 years tells you who it is that is "fulfilling prophecy" that the churches already sell as "God". The final cycle just completes the deception that can already be reverse engineered from the co-development of Church theology to back Israel developments from globalist elite groups having nothing whatsoever to do with Almighty God, but with the "god of this system of things" that these bankers have long been known to be affiliates with.
The churches are really, as a blunt as it may sound, an annex of modern demon worship, and they too have all the attendant "deep teachings" to go along with the minds that control them for greater future purposes. And this is why, to many people, organized Christendom is a long known "harlot" system. But imo it takes a certain amount of self honesty to see it for what it really is. Many are born into it and obviously their parents own pursuit of self gain, as is often the case, eclipsed them questioning their religious leaders, and the institutional "father" already knew this from the day they were born, and their parents parents and so on into the deep dark annals of European history, a church blood bath that it is, and one of the reasons for the unpopular nature of history.
It is easier to just eat the cake yet have it too, the reality does not have to be faced until later, by one pinnacle generation, and the denial has worked very well in the meantime. But another reason to doubt the rapture theory as it stands from that church center. There are truths in the Bible, and that is what they are there to confuse and use for the purposes of the darker forces ruling the world now, and they have to use it first before anything true manifests later.
the rapture and second coming are 2 different things. The rapture has to happen before the trib for many reasons.Strangely this is the problem I have with the church "rapture" theory:
(Matthew 24:29-31) . . .“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.
If Christ does not show up until AFTER the tribulation, how is it Christians are raptured BEFORE the tribulation?
Thus in my opinion that "rapture" premature timing (2Thess2:1-2) is the escapist mindset many claimant Christians are apt to accept and it instead supports a premature "end" expectation that will come in handy for the final cycle presentation of world government at the end of the cycle.
The globalizing engineers can just continue to feed "new insights" into the mainstream prophetic interpretation centers, and the churches can then be more reliably led into the "new world order", and handy Israel will be the final carrot for that "adjustment" in church trajectory when indeed they have found out by that time, they were here for the whole final cycle.
Mainstream church philosophers are really just centralized aids of mindsets that can be useful while the cycle is playing out towards full globalization, or "world government". "Anti-Christ" and all the common church myths, seemingly based on prophecy, have actually all been hijacked by the elites of the whole Christendom system to be used to guide those "sheep" to world government and it be accepted fully by most of them in the process over say the final 7 to 14 years from when the cycle has actually begun.
Thus imo, the further a Christian is out from that organized delusion system, the more chance they will have to actually avoid the "mark of the beast" rather than get the church 666 stencil already contained in the direction their teachings are already leaning. Meaning the "church" is already "666" to have gotten this deep in error this late in the game, and those leaders are the ones to finish the process to lead their whole populations to world government, as of course "the Kingdom of God everyone!!!".
The deeper one is in the current brainwash, the harder it is to see what is really developing overall. A good study of who has backed Israel national development the last 100 years tells you who it is that is "fulfilling prophecy" that the churches already sell as "God". The final cycle just completes the deception that can already be reverse engineered from the co-development of Church theology to back Israel developments from globalist elite groups having nothing whatsoever to do with Almighty God, but with the "god of this system of things" that these bankers have long been known to be affiliates with.
The churches are really, as a blunt as it may sound, an annex of modern demon worship, and they too have all the attendant "deep teachings" to go along with the minds that control them for greater future purposes. And this is why, to many people, organized Christendom is a long known "harlot" system. But imo it takes a certain amount of self honesty to see it for what it really is. Many are born into it and obviously their parents own pursuit of self gain, as is often the case, eclipsed them questioning their religious leaders, and the institutional "father" already knew this from the day they were born, and their parents parents and so on into the deep dark annals of European history, a church blood bath that it is, and one of the reasons for the unpopular nature of history.
It is easier to just eat the cake yet have it too, the reality does not have to be faced until later, by one pinnacle generation, and the denial has worked very well in the meantime. But another reason to doubt the rapture theory as it stands from that church center. There are truths in the Bible, and that is what they are there to confuse and use for the purposes of the darker forces ruling the world now, and they have to use it first before anything true manifests later.
the rapture and second coming are 2 different things. The rapture has to happen before the trib for many reasons.
Yes, the church theory requires ignoring Matthew 24:29 for their own escapist appeal to their masses that they are rather, leading to world government to be under the "Kingdom of God" veneer.
Thus, imo, as the "rapture" fails as far as the wildbeast serving church system goes, they will then be baited by the "Israel is being recovered brothers!" delusion as Israel is also a NWO prop. (The Israel prop is used at the end of the cycle to lead people to the world government "beast")
Thus as one church theory fails after another, they save the Israel net for last to scoop up the rest of the church deluded with but another handy mimic fantasy.
The purpose of organized Christianiy was to subvert any Christian believer possible into accepting seminary taught delusions, like the premature rapture theory, to better herd misled Christians to accept the 666 of world government which the Israel deception is the final carrot of the overall delusion complex.
Rather than just read the Bible, like that Matthew 24:29 explicitly obvious logic of the "tribulation of those days" ending BEFORE Christ arrives, stated plain as day, the church drones listen to men from their seminary system and pulpit who have supported themselves in grand style by use of these lies and delusions. Thus a simple scripture and logic like that has no meaning to the church brainwashed ones, the objective of the subversion has been met.
In reality the Bible tells a far different story than the churches no matter what error complex you look at, the seminary teachers cannot get it right, because they have been infiltrated since the Dark Ages and that error continues to today to trap that whole church complex inside the wild beast system.
The churches sell out, and that is why they get no actual "light", imo. I think their "harlot" record for political "king" purposes speaks for itself. The Christian system, including Jehovah's witnesses, is just a propaganda department for world government planners and development. Failure of the WHOLE Christian prophecy complex will aid discrediting all Christianity, and that is what the current church alliance system of teaching provides.
The prophecy comes true, but not in the order the churches prematurely apply out of sequence and for self serving escapist delusions. The churches fulfill the "apostasy" and that is why they never do get the truth. Individuals can be saved, but it is good to flee the church system, it is a death trap. (Matt24:15)
They listen to men, not the Bible or God or Christ. And that is also how Jehovah's witnesses have also been misled into a similar premature end delusion. Expect disappointment after disappointment, because that is the lot of the apostate church and JW system.
A final clarification will arrive through the JW downfall, imo. They were the last point of prophetic progress, but are also now apostates by lead of their apostate Bethel leadership.
There is a reason the Restoration was necessary.