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Spare the Rod and the Child Thinks He's GodThere were armed guards at Columbine.
There were armed guards at Parkland High School.
There were armed guards at Virginia Tech.
There were armed guards at Fort Hood and the Washington Naval Yard.
Armed guards don't stop mass shooters, usually because a Mass Shooter does his business long before an armed guard can react.
Here's how you stop mass shooters. You have common sense gun laws, and don't give out military-grade weapons to crazy people. The UK, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, and Italy have all figured this out, which is why they RARELY have mass shootings.
The expense of employing armed guards in schools is probably not worth it unless the "armed guards" have some other function. Columbine had no armed guards and neither did Va. Tech.. Parkland Cops apparently preferred to wait until the shooter expended his ammo before approaching him. Maybe the concept of "armed guards" makes parents feel better but it's no guarantee against a maniac killer.There were armed guards at Columbine.
There were armed guards at Parkland High School.
There were armed guards at Virginia Tech.
There were armed guards at Fort Hood and the Washington Naval Yard.
Armed guards don't stop mass shooters, usually because a Mass Shooter does his business long before an armed guard can react.
Here's how you stop mass shooters. You have common sense gun laws, and don't give out military-grade weapons to crazy people. The UK, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, and Italy have all figured this out, which is why they RARELY have mass shootings.
Actually, Columbine did have an armed guard and he exchanged fire with Harris, (one of the two shooters.)The expense of employing armed guards in schools is probably not worth it unless the "armed guards" have some other function. Columbine had no armed guards and neither did Va. Tech.. Parkland Cops apparently preferred to wait until the shooter expended his ammo before approaching him. Maybe the concept of "armed guards" makes parents feel better but it's no guarantee against a maniac killer.
I don't need your help.You are kind of proving my point.
Let me help you out. Let's say you assign one armed guard to every school. That's one guard for maybe 1000 students. A campus that might sprawl over several buildings.
The Mass shooter has planned his action for months. He's studied the layout of the school. He knows exactly where to inflict maximum damage.
Take the Columbine shooters. They had an elaborate plan and the only reason they didn't kill a lot more people was because their improvised explosive devices failed to work properly.
Placing Armed Security In Schools Failed In Columbine In 1999
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The second officer was Deputy Paul Smoker, a motorcycle patrolman who was near the school writing a speeding ticket. When he heard a dispatch of a woman injured at the high school, he responded. He, too, fired at Harris but didn't stop him.
LaPierre said having armed security on the scene is necessary so someone is there to shoot back. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," he said. "Would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away -- or a minute away?"
But in chaotic situations, it's often impossible to identify the "bad guy," as Smoker said in his account of Columbine: "There was an unknown inside a school. We didn't know who the 'bad guy' was but we soon realized the sophistication of their weapons. These were big bombs. Big guns. We didn’t have a clue who 'they' were."
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I always have trouble believing the US actually has police in its schools. WT actual F?
Actually, Columbine did have an armed guard and he exchanged fire with Harris, (one of the two shooters.)
The parkland cop really had no idea what was going on, because he was outside the building and he wasn't even sure which floor the shots were being fired on.
You are kind of proving my point.
Let me help you out. Let's say you assign one armed guard to every school. That's one guard for maybe 1000 students. A campus that might sprawl over several buildings.
The Mass shooter has planned his action for months. He's studied the layout of the school. He knows exactly where to inflict maximum damage.
Take the Columbine shooters. They had an elaborate plan and the only reason they didn't kill a lot more people was because their improvised explosive devices failed to work properly.
Placing Armed Security In Schools Failed In Columbine In 1999
Placing Armed Security In Schools Failed In Columbine In 1999
The second officer was Deputy Paul Smoker, a motorcycle patrolman who was near the school writing a speeding ticket. When he heard a dispatch of a woman injured at the high school, he responded. He, too, fired at Harris but didn't stop him.
LaPierre said having armed security on the scene is necessary so someone is there to shoot back. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," he said. "Would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away -- or a minute away?"
But in chaotic situations, it's often impossible to identify the "bad guy," as Smoker said in his account of Columbine: "There was an unknown inside a school. We didn't know who the 'bad guy' was but we soon realized the sophistication of their weapons. These were big bombs. Big guns. We didn’t have a clue who 'they' were."
I'm trying to make sense of a place where schools are policed by armed LEO.
Can't do it.
Actually, Columbine did have an armed guard and he exchanged fire with Harris, (one of the two shooters.)
The parkland cop really had no idea what was going on, because he was outside the building and he wasn't even sure which floor the shots were being fired on.
What on earth is he doing there? In a school, for gawds' sakes.
I don't know of any other country that does that.
Australia and the UK didn't have massive gun ownership to start with.
Gun ownership doesn't prevent dictatorship. There was massive gun ownership before Hitler in Germany, and even afterwards. Not a one of them resisted when Hitler came to power. Nobody ran out with his gun that he had been squirreling away since WWI and said, "You can't take Goldstein, he's my friend!!!!"
Not at all. Even I know that mass gun confiscation isn't practical.
What is practical -
Thorough background checks for new gun purchases.
Red Flag laws to take guns away from people who are truly dangerous.
Hoping that assigning an underperforming cop as a school resource officer, well, we saw how well that worked at Parkland. By the time that Cop did anything, the shooter was done with his business and chilling at the Starbucks across the street.
There were armed guards at Columbine.
There were armed guards at Parkland High School.
There were armed guards at Virginia Tech.
There were armed guards at Fort Hood and the Washington Naval Yard.
Armed guards don't stop mass shooters, usually because a Mass Shooter does his business long before an armed guard can react.
Here's how you stop mass shooters. You have common sense gun laws, and don't give out military-grade weapons to crazy people. The UK, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, and Italy have all figured this out, which is why they RARELY have mass shootings.
You are kind of proving my point.
Let me help you out. Let's say you assign one armed guard to every school. That's one guard for maybe 1000 students. A campus that might sprawl over several buildings.
The Mass shooter has planned his action for months. He's studied the layout of the school. He knows exactly where to inflict maximum damage.
Take the Columbine shooters. They had an elaborate plan and the only reason they didn't kill a lot more people was because their improvised explosive devices failed to work properly.
Placing Armed Security In Schools Failed In Columbine In 1999
Placing Armed Security In Schools Failed In Columbine In 1999
The second officer was Deputy Paul Smoker, a motorcycle patrolman who was near the school writing a speeding ticket. When he heard a dispatch of a woman injured at the high school, he responded. He, too, fired at Harris but didn't stop him.
LaPierre said having armed security on the scene is necessary so someone is there to shoot back. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," he said. "Would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away -- or a minute away?"
But in chaotic situations, it's often impossible to identify the "bad guy," as Smoker said in his account of Columbine: "There was an unknown inside a school. We didn't know who the 'bad guy' was but we soon realized the sophistication of their weapons. These were big bombs. Big guns. We didn’t have a clue who 'they' were."
I don't think I want an underpaid teacher using his gun to shoot a disturbed student who didn't take his Ritalin that day.I don't need your help.
I am more for this with required training:
After calls for gun safety, Tennessee votes to arm teachers
An analysis of state laws by Newsweek shows that more than 30 states allow teachers to carry guns under certain conditions. The majority of these states require at least the permission of a school authority, and in some states, the teacher must undergo additional training. New Hampshire is the only state with no restrictions on adults carrying guns on school grounds; only students are prohibited.
Map shows states where teachers can carry guns
More than 30 states allow teachers to carry guns under certain conditions.
Glad I could help you out.
Maybe you should look into the required training and qualifications. Then get back to me.I don't think I want an underpaid teacher using his gun to shoot a disturbed student who didn't take his Ritalin that day.
It's bad enough we have cops doing that sort of thing.
What Bye,Done Wants the Israelis to DoWill the Police hold back for 41 mins like Uvalde or run & hang back & hide like the School in Florida
Cops have training and qualifications, and we still have incidents where they end up shooting innocent unarmed people.Maybe you should look into the required training and qualifications. Then get back to me.
You saw the part where 30 states have laws about this.
