Palestinians: When was Palestine established?

[Hollie]

Tell us about the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''country of Pal'istan''.

Anything yet on those ''new states''?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

And learn nothing.

I'm trying to learn about the odd notions you have regarding the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''country of Pal'istan''.

Nothing yet on those ''new states'' invented by that treaty?

Indeed, what 'new states'

Link?

O please!
It took 10 years for TinBrain to stop mentioning the Treaty of Lausanne!

For most of its history Israel was a vassal state within the Syrian province of Palestine ,, and usually a vassal state to Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Greeks, Romans and Turks. The inhabitants of Palestine were NOT European and/or Russian immigrants.

Israel was not a state until 1948.

Exactly and by then over 800,000 European Jews had immigrated to Palestine.

Yes. The British Mandate was an invitation for Jews to establish a national home.

Maps get rewritten all the time. The ending of both world wars showed that. Arabs-Moslems have no issue with that when it applies to their history of war, rapine and conquest.

 

[Hollie]

Tell us about the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''country of Pal'istan''.

Anything yet on those ''new states''?

Palestine was always a province of Syria from about 500 BC.

Except when it wasn't. The loosely defined land area called Palestine was a Sanjak, or administrative area of the Ottoman Empire

Palestine was a province of Syria just like Kuwait was a province of Iraq. .
Hollie, did you know that Germany and Italy weren't countries either until quite recently. Did you ever study Modern European History in school?

The land area of Palestine was an administrative district under the Ottoman Empire. Did you ever do the research on that?

Yes, everyone knows that, but it was still designated as a province of Syria. The Ancient Greeks called it Syria-Palestine.

The Ottoman's called it an administrative district when they controlled the territory. The geographic area has had many names as control of the area by various entities has changed over time.

 

[surada]

Tell us about the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''country of Pal'istan''.

Anything yet on those ''new states''?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

And learn nothing.

I'm trying to learn about the odd notions you have regarding the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''country of Pal'istan''.

Nothing yet on those ''new states'' invented by that treaty?

Indeed, what 'new states'

Link?

O please!
It took 10 years for TinBrain to stop mentioning the Treaty of Lausanne!

For most of its history Israel was a vassal state within the Syrian province of Palestine ,, and usually a vassal state to Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Greeks, Romans and Turks. The inhabitants of Palestine were NOT European and/or Russian immigrants.

Israel was not a state until 1948.

Exactly and by then over 800,000 European Jews had immigrated to Palestine.

Yes. The British Mandate was an invitation for Jews to establish a national home.

Maps get rewritten all the time. The ending of both world wars showed that. Arabs-Moslems have no issue with that when it applies to their history of war, rapine and conquest.

The mandate also specified that this would not infringe on the rights of the people who already lived there for thousands of years.

Arabs have been in Palestine, Mesopotamia and the Levant for thousands of years before Islam. Sargon 2 settled four Arab tribes in the West Bank 500 BC..

The Torah says its a sin to move boundary stones.

 

[Hollie]

Tell us about the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''country of Pal'istan''.

Anything yet on those ''new states''?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

And learn nothing.

I'm trying to learn about the odd notions you have regarding the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''country of Pal'istan''.

Nothing yet on those ''new states'' invented by that treaty?

Indeed, what 'new states'

Link?

O please!
It took 10 years for TinBrain to stop mentioning the Treaty of Lausanne!

For most of its history Israel was a vassal state within the Syrian province of Palestine ,, and usually a vassal state to Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Greeks, Romans and Turks. The inhabitants of Palestine were NOT European and/or Russian immigrants.

Israel was not a state until 1948.

Exactly and by then over 800,000 European Jews had immigrated to Palestine.

Yes. The British Mandate was an invitation for Jews to establish a national home.

Maps get rewritten all the time. The ending of both world wars showed that. Arabs-Moslems have no issue with that when it applies to their history of war, rapine and conquest.

The mandate also specified that this would not infringe on the rights of the people who already lived there for thousands of years.

Arabs have been in Palestine, Mesopotamia and the Levant for thousands of years before Islam. Sargon 2 settled four Arab tribes in the West Bank 500 BC..

The Torah says its a sin to move boundary stones.

Jews and Christians lived there also as dhimmi under Arab-Moslem fascism.

The inventor of islamism said two religions cannot exist on the peninsula.

 

[surada]

Tell us about the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''country of Pal'istan''.

Anything yet on those ''new states''?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

And learn nothing.

I'm trying to learn about the odd notions you have regarding the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''country of Pal'istan''.

Nothing yet on those ''new states'' invented by that treaty?

Indeed, what 'new states'

Link?

O please!
It took 10 years for TinBrain to stop mentioning the Treaty of Lausanne!

For most of its history Israel was a vassal state within the Syrian province of Palestine ,, and usually a vassal state to Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Greeks, Romans and Turks. The inhabitants of Palestine were NOT European and/or Russian immigrants.

Israel was not a state until 1948.

Exactly and by then over 800,000 European Jews had immigrated to Palestine.

Yes. The British Mandate was an invitation for Jews to establish a national home.

Maps get rewritten all the time. The ending of both world wars showed that. Arabs-Moslems have no issue with that when it applies to their history of war, rapine and conquest.

The mandate also specified that this would not infringe on the rights of the people who already lived there for thousands of years.

Arabs have been in Palestine, Mesopotamia and the Levant for thousands of years before Islam. Sargon 2 settled four Arab tribes in the West Bank 500 BC..

The Torah says its a sin to move boundary stones.

Jews and Christians lived there also as dhimmi under Arab-Moslem fascism.

The inventor of islamism said two religions cannot exist on the peninsula.

There haven't been any Dhimmis for a couple hundred years. Do you even know what that was about?

The Jizya tax was less than Muslims pay and was only paid by able bodied men who wanted to opt out of community defense. The reason it was LESS is because Muslims didn't want Christian and Jews to convert to Islam because they could save money.. That would be a form of coersion.

 

[Hollie]

Tell us about the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''country of Pal'istan''.

Anything yet on those ''new states''?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

And learn nothing.

I'm trying to learn about the odd notions you have regarding the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''country of Pal'istan''.

Nothing yet on those ''new states'' invented by that treaty?

Indeed, what 'new states'

Link?

O please!
It took 10 years for TinBrain to stop mentioning the Treaty of Lausanne!

For most of its history Israel was a vassal state within the Syrian province of Palestine ,, and usually a vassal state to Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Greeks, Romans and Turks. The inhabitants of Palestine were NOT European and/or Russian immigrants.

Israel was not a state until 1948.

Exactly and by then over 800,000 European Jews had immigrated to Palestine.

Yes. The British Mandate was an invitation for Jews to establish a national home.

Maps get rewritten all the time. The ending of both world wars showed that. Arabs-Moslems have no issue with that when it applies to their history of war, rapine and conquest.

The mandate also specified that this would not infringe on the rights of the people who already lived there for thousands of years.

Arabs have been in Palestine, Mesopotamia and the Levant for thousands of years before Islam. Sargon 2 settled four Arab tribes in the West Bank 500 BC..

The Torah says its a sin to move boundary stones.

Jews and Christians lived there also as dhimmi under Arab-Moslem fascism.

The inventor of islamism said two religions cannot exist on the peninsula.

There haven't been any Dhimmis for a couple hundred years. Do you even know what that was about?

The Jizya tax was less than Muslims pay and was only paid by able bodied men who wanted to opt out of community defense. The reason it was LESS is because Muslims didn't want Christian and Jews to convert to Islam because they could save money.. That would be a form of coersion.

I think you're hoping to minimize the institutionalized fascism that is a part of Islamism. The example in Islamic Sharia is the 7th century Pact of Umar

Internet History Sourcebooks: Medieval Sourcebook

sourcebooks.fordham.edu

The Jews and Christians who were unfortunate enough to live as second-class dhimmis ("protected" people) under the Islamic state were routinely humiliated, overtaxed, derided, dispossessed, and were helpless to defend themselves from Moslem cruelty and oppression. This is the fulfillment of sura 9:29 and it is a matter of historical record, contrary to the modern multicultural facade of an Islamic tolerance that simply did not exist in Moslem occupied Spain, Egypt, the Balkans, Greece, Israel, and beyond. The People of the Book (Jews and Christians) who scraped by under their Moslem overlords weren't "living in peace," They lived in fear and misery. The money extorted from them—the jizya poll tax—in exchange for being allowed to cower in their homes, practicing their faith out of sight, was used to fund the gee-had war chest. If they were found guilty of breaking their covenant of "protection" with the Islamic state (a guilt which was all but assured, seeing as they had no standing in a sharia court against a Moslem), they were executed or sold into slavery. This is all in accordance with the Moslem God's writ in the Koran, and Muhammad's degenerate example in the sunnah, and it continues today.

Lastly, Arabs-Moslems often discouraged conversion of dhimmi to Islam because the dhimmi were a cash cow for the Arab-Moslem oppressors.

 

[surada]

The land area of Palestine was an administrative district under the Ottoman Empire. Did you ever do the research on that?

Yes..........

 

[surada]

I think you're hoping to minimize the institutionalized fascism that is a part of Islamism. The example in Islamic Sharia is the 7th century Pact of Umar

Internet History Sourcebooks: Medieval Sourcebook

sourcebooks.fordham.edu

The Jews and Christians who were unfortunate enough to live as second-class dhimmis ("protected" people) under the Islamic state were routinely humiliated, overtaxed, derided, dispossessed, and were helpless to defend themselves from Moslem cruelty and oppression. This is the fulfillment of sura 9:29 and it is a matter of historical record, contrary to the modern multicultural facade of an Islamic tolerance that simply did not exist in Moslem occupied Spain, Egypt, the Balkans, Greece, Israel, and beyond. The People of the Book (Jews and Christians) who scraped by under their Moslem overlords weren't "living in peace," They lived in fear and misery. The money extorted from them—the jizya poll tax—in exchange for being allowed to cower in their homes, practicing their faith out of sight, was used to fund the gee-had war chest. If they were found guilty of breaking their covenant of "protection" with the Islamic state (a guilt which was all but assured, seeing as they had no standing in a sharia court against a Moslem), they were executed or sold into slavery. This is all in accordance with the Moslem God's writ in the Koran, and Muhammad's degenerate example in the sunnah, and it continues today.

Lastly, Arabs-Moslems often discouraged conversion of dhimmi to Islam because the dhimmi were a cash cow for the Arab-Moslem oppressors.

Muslim Spain is called the Golden Age of Judaism. Jewish Berbers helped the Muslims conquer Spain.

 

[rylah]

Muslim Spain is called the Golden Age of Judaism.

That's a myth...

 

[surada]

That's a myth...

Nope. Jews had their own guilds or joined Muslim guilds.. They also helped the Arabs translate and save many books on medicine and philosophy from the Greek into Arabic and Hebrew.

Muslims Spain had street lights, clean water and garbage pick up.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

That's a myth...

But to be fair, absolutely everything this Islamist says is a myth, too.

The only trutrh, which we both know,,is that there was no such thing as a Palestinian people prior to the establishment of Israel. There were just Arabs , Jews, Druze, etc.

 

[surada]

I think you're hoping to minimize the institutionalized fascism that is a part of Islamism. The example in Islamic Sharia is the 7th century Pact of Umar

Internet History Sourcebooks: Medieval Sourcebook

sourcebooks.fordham.edu

The Jews and Christians who were unfortunate enough to live as second-class dhimmis ("protected" people) under the Islamic state were routinely humiliated, overtaxed, derided, dispossessed, and were helpless to defend themselves from Moslem cruelty and oppression. This is the fulfillment of sura 9:29 and it is a matter of historical record, contrary to the modern multicultural facade of an Islamic tolerance that simply did not exist in Moslem occupied Spain, Egypt, the Balkans, Greece, Israel, and beyond. The People of the Book (Jews and Christians) who scraped by under their Moslem overlords weren't "living in peace," They lived in fear and misery. The money extorted from them—the jizya poll tax—in exchange for being allowed to cower in their homes, practicing their faith out of sight, was used to fund the gee-had war chest. If they were found guilty of breaking their covenant of "protection" with the Islamic state (a guilt which was all but assured, seeing as they had no standing in a sharia court against a Moslem), they were executed or sold into slavery. This is all in accordance with the Moslem God's writ in the Koran, and Muhammad's degenerate example in the sunnah, and it continues today.

Lastly, Arabs-Moslems often discouraged conversion of dhimmi to Islam because the dhimmi were a cash cow for the Arab-Moslem oppressors.

The Jizya tax was much smaller than Zakat.

 

[surada]

But to be fair, absolutely everything this Islamist says is a myth, too.

The only trutrh, which we both know,,is that there was no such thing as a Palestinian people prior to the establishment of Israel. There were just Arabs , Jews, Druze, etc.

They had always been there. They didn't migrate from Europe or Russia.

As far as countries go.. There was no Germany or Italy either, but people lived there.

 

[Mindful]

The Jizya tax was much smaller than Zakat.

Oh?

How fascinating.

 

[surada]

Oh?

How fascinating.

Yep.. Only able bodied men who didn't want to serve in defense of the Community paid Jizya.

 

[Mindful]

Yep.. Only able bodied men who didn't want to serve in defense of the Community paid Jizya.

Is that right?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

They had always been there. They didn't migrate from Europe or Russia.

As far as countries go.. There was no Germany or Italy either, but people lived there.

Who is it you Muslim Brothers think you are fooling here?

Of course, Arabs lived there So did Jews. When the Mandate was divided up, the Muslims got 77%. They wanted it all, though, so invented this brand new group as a propaganda tool.

 

[surada]

Who is it you Muslim Brothers think you are fooling here?

Of course, Arabs lived there So did Jews. When the Mandate was divided up, the Muslims got 77%. They wanted it all, though, so invented this brand new group as a propaganda tool.

I am not a Muslim or a male..

There were very few Jews in Palestine.. Read Ibn Battuta or Rabbi Benjamin Tudela or even the Ottoman census of 1840.

 

[Mindful]

Read Ibn Battuta or Rabbi Benjamin Tudela or even the Ottoman census of 1840.

I don’t want to.

 

[surada]

I don’t want to.

That's sad. Peace would be better for everyone.