Palestinians demand return of "their" heritage -- Dead Sea Scolls

[theliq]

Ok Eloy, when you're right then you're right. Yiddish is basically German written in Hebrew letters. But that doesn't negate the fact that the Dead Seas Scrolls are basically the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) written in the Jewish language of Hebrew, with only a smattering of Aramaic (the language of the Talmud), and a few in Greek. According to the scholarly book "Jews, God and History", they were written by a pre-Christian, now-defunct Jewish sect, known as the Essenes. Also according to that book, the reason that Christians did not claim the Dead Sea Scrolls for themselves is that the Essenes probably influenced the later religion of Christianity with its highly-Messianic sect. According to that book, the Christians felt that it was enough that their god and all of their early apostles were Jews; they did not want want their theology to be credited to the Essenes, a Jewish sect, as well. Only the Palestinians, who speak Arabic and who mostly follow the Quran and not the Tanakh, would have the unmitigated "chutzpah" to claim the Dead Sea Scrolls as "their" own heritage. They are trying to erase the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel but they will never succeed.

One thing in perspective, Yiddish means 'of Yid', wherever. You're Yid I'm Yid...were're Judea...
So Yiddish means, the old practice of going to a lonely place and speaking to the Almighty in your simple daily 'mother language'. Be it Hebrew or any other language Your family speaks. Yiddish is of Yid

No-one would confuse Yiddish for Hebrew no matter what alphabet is used, Yiddish was the language of the European Jews before they were destroyed in the Final Solution.

So this means that you LIE when you complain about the European Jews invading the mandate of Palestine and stealing the arab muslim lands. If they were wiped out then this means the Jews in Israel are from the area and so have the same rights as the arab muslims to claim independence. As for Yiddish it was being spoken in America shortly after your people invaded and mass murdered the indigenous inhabitants in the name of the Jewish God. It was also spoken in Syria, Yemen, Africa and any other part of the world that Jews lived.

And in Cockney London......where they are known as "FRONT WHEEL SKIDS''.....YIDS

Only a follower of the hate sites would know that, so once again you prove you do the rounds of all the hate sites for your next racist comment.

Now about the state of palestine, when did the arab muslims get the land granted to them ?

See above post,as a continuance,Jews/Yids in London drive a lot of old Volvos but are RENOWN for being terrible drivers,hence,skidding and crashing in icy conditions....thus "FRONT WHEEL SKIDS"= YIDS/JEWS.....very clever

 

[Phoenall]

One thing in perspective, Yiddish means 'of Yid', wherever. You're Yid I'm Yid...were're Judea...
So Yiddish means, the old practice of going to a lonely place and speaking to the Almighty in your simple daily 'mother language'. Be it Hebrew or any other language Your family speaks. Yiddish is of Yid

No-one would confuse Yiddish for Hebrew no matter what alphabet is used, Yiddish was the language of the European Jews before they were destroyed in the Final Solution.

So this means that you LIE when you complain about the European Jews invading the mandate of Palestine and stealing the arab muslim lands. If they were wiped out then this means the Jews in Israel are from the area and so have the same rights as the arab muslims to claim independence. As for Yiddish it was being spoken in America shortly after your people invaded and mass murdered the indigenous inhabitants in the name of the Jewish God. It was also spoken in Syria, Yemen, Africa and any other part of the world that Jews lived.

And in Cockney London......where they are known as "FRONT WHEEL SKIDS''.....YIDS

Only a follower of the hate sites would know that, so once again you prove you do the rounds of all the hate sites for your next racist comment.

Now about the state of palestine, when did the arab muslims get the land granted torouble them ?

Not Hate Sites Pheo,just Brilliant East End Vernacular........like Apples and Pears= Stairs,you seem very sensitive today Pheo.....having trouble starting your 20 year old Volvo today??????????

"0 year old volvo's are easy to start, it is 13 year old muslim spoilt brats that have no friends that find it hard, I know my cockney slang and that is one you made up because you are just a neo naxi racist scum that hides behind anti Zionism because it is the new anti semitism

 

[Phoenall]

One thing in perspective, Yiddish means 'of Yid', wherever. You're Yid I'm Yid...were're Judea...
So Yiddish means, the old practice of going to a lonely place and speaking to the Almighty in your simple daily 'mother language'. Be it Hebrew or any other language Your family speaks. Yiddish is of Yid

No-one would confuse Yiddish for Hebrew no matter what alphabet is used, Yiddish was the language of the European Jews before they were destroyed in the Final Solution.

So this means that you LIE when you complain about the European Jews invading the mandate of Palestine and stealing the arab muslim lands. If they were wiped out then this means the Jews in Israel are from the area and so have the same rights as the arab muslims to claim independence. As for Yiddish it was being spoken in America shortly after your people invaded and mass murdered the indigenous inhabitants in the name of the Jewish God. It was also spoken in Syria, Yemen, Africa and any other part of the world that Jews lived.

And in Cockney London......where they are known as "FRONT WHEEL SKIDS''.....YIDS

Only a follower of the hate sites would know that, so once again you prove you do the rounds of all the hate sites for your next racist comment.

Now about the state of palestine, when did the arab muslims get the land granted to them ?

See above post,as a continuance,Jews/Yids in London drive a lot of old Volvos but are RENOWN for being terrible drivers,hence,skidding and crashing in icy conditions....thus "FRONT WHEEL SKIDS"= YIDS/JEWS.....very clever

No just idiotic and racist which is all we expect from neo nazi scum like you. Still trying to hide your RACIST ANTI SEMITISM BEHIND ANTI ZIONISM AND FAILING

Loser

 

[rylah]

You generalize, many Catholic children in selected countries still study Latin and memorize the High Mass. Not to mention Greek Orthodox children particularly from Greek speaking nations who study ancient Greek and speak modern Greek.

Great! Speaking many languages builds a versatile persona.
Now back to reality- what is the origin of about 50% of the book a priest teaches them in those classes?

Greek.

So what are you doing here trolling a discussion about Hebrew scriptures?

 

[rylah]

It is my understanding that Yiddish was the spoken language of European Jews. Christians usually study the Bible in their own language but scholars study original texts in Hebrew and Greek. I am unfamiliar with Jewish and Muslim schools.

Yes Yiddish was the daily language, Hebrew was and still is the Holy language.
And what alphabet was used in Yiddish?

This is the Hebrew alphabet:

This is a printed Yiddish newspaper:

And here's a handwritten fragment of the Dead Sea scrolls (Psalm 138):

and the scroll alphabet:

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Do you see much difference?

You are creating a false similarity between the Hebrew alphabet and the Hebrew language. As languages such as Swedish and Latin are distinctly different although both use the Latin alphabet, so Yiddish, which is predominantly German, is not Hebrew despite the alphabet and minor elements of Hebrew and Aramaic, as well as Slavic and Romance language borrowings.

Ok Eloy, when you're right then you're right. Yiddish is basically German written in Hebrew letters. But that doesn't negate the fact that the Dead Seas Scrolls are basically the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) written in the Jewish language of Hebrew, with only a smattering of Aramaic (the language of the Talmud), and a few in Greek. According to the scholarly book "Jews, God and History", they were written by a pre-Christian, now-defunct Jewish sect, known as the Essenes. Also according to that book, the reason that Christians did not claim the Dead Sea Scrolls for themselves is that the Essenes probably influenced the later religion of Christianity with its highly-Messianic sect. According to that book, the Christians felt that it was enough that their god and all of their early apostles were Jews; they did not want want their theology to be credited to the Essenes, a Jewish sect, as well. Only the Palestinians, who speak Arabic and who mostly follow the Quran and not the Tanakh, would have the unmitigated "chutzpah" to claim the Dead Sea Scrolls as "their" own heritage. They are trying to erase the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel but they will never succeed.

One thing in perspective, Yiddish means 'of Yid', wherever. You're Yid I'm Yid...were're Judea...
So Yiddish means, the old practice of going to a lonely place and speaking to the Almighty in your simple daily 'mother language'. Be it Hebrew or any other language Your family speaks. Yiddish is of Yid

No-one would confuse Yiddish for Hebrew no matter what alphabet is used, Yiddish was the language of the European Jews before they were destroyed in the Final Solution.

Yiddish is any local language fused with Hebrew and written in Hebrew alphabet.
The fact that the alphabet was passed down so accurately has a reason, significant one.

Even the FOREIGN language Jews used shows their connection to these scrolls.

 

[Eloy]

Yes Yiddish was the daily language, Hebrew was and still is the Holy language.
And what alphabet was used in Yiddish?

This is the Hebrew alphabet:

This is a printed Yiddish newspaper:

And here's a handwritten fragment of the Dead Sea scrolls (Psalm 138):

and the scroll alphabet:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Do you see much difference?

You are creating a false similarity between the Hebrew alphabet and the Hebrew language. As languages such as Swedish and Latin are distinctly different although both use the Latin alphabet, so Yiddish, which is predominantly German, is not Hebrew despite the alphabet and minor elements of Hebrew and Aramaic, as well as Slavic and Romance language borrowings.

Ok Eloy, when you're right then you're right. Yiddish is basically German written in Hebrew letters. But that doesn't negate the fact that the Dead Seas Scrolls are basically the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) written in the Jewish language of Hebrew, with only a smattering of Aramaic (the language of the Talmud), and a few in Greek. According to the scholarly book "Jews, God and History", they were written by a pre-Christian, now-defunct Jewish sect, known as the Essenes. Also according to that book, the reason that Christians did not claim the Dead Sea Scrolls for themselves is that the Essenes probably influenced the later religion of Christianity with its highly-Messianic sect. According to that book, the Christians felt that it was enough that their god and all of their early apostles were Jews; they did not want want their theology to be credited to the Essenes, a Jewish sect, as well. Only the Palestinians, who speak Arabic and who mostly follow the Quran and not the Tanakh, would have the unmitigated "chutzpah" to claim the Dead Sea Scrolls as "their" own heritage. They are trying to erase the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel but they will never succeed.

One thing in perspective, Yiddish means 'of Yid', wherever. You're Yid I'm Yid...were're Judea...
So Yiddish means, the old practice of going to a lonely place and speaking to the Almighty in your simple daily 'mother language'. Be it Hebrew or any other language Your family speaks. Yiddish is of Yid

No-one would confuse Yiddish for Hebrew no matter what alphabet is used, Yiddish was the language of the European Jews before they were destroyed in the Final Solution.

Yiddish is any local language fused with Hebrew and written in Hebrew alphabet.
The fact that the alphabet was passed down so accurately has a reason, significant one.

Even the FOREIGN language Jews used shows their connection to these scrolls.

You cannot change the fact that Yiddish is mostly German with smidgens of Polish and other languages.

 

[montelatici]

You generalize, many Catholic children in selected countries still study Latin and memorize the High Mass. Not to mention Greek Orthodox children particularly from Greek speaking nations who study ancient Greek and speak modern Greek.

Great! Speaking many languages builds a versatile persona.
Now back to reality- what is the origin of about 50% of the book a priest teaches them in those classes?

Greek.

So what are you doing here trolling a discussion about Hebrew scriptures?

Commenting on the fact that there is nothing unique about Jewish children learning to read ancient texts, as you implied in your trolling.

 

[rylah]

You are creating a false similarity between the Hebrew alphabet and the Hebrew language. As languages such as Swedish and Latin are distinctly different although both use the Latin alphabet, so Yiddish, which is predominantly German, is not Hebrew despite the alphabet and minor elements of Hebrew and Aramaic, as well as Slavic and Romance language borrowings.

Ok Eloy, when you're right then you're right. Yiddish is basically German written in Hebrew letters. But that doesn't negate the fact that the Dead Seas Scrolls are basically the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) written in the Jewish language of Hebrew, with only a smattering of Aramaic (the language of the Talmud), and a few in Greek. According to the scholarly book "Jews, God and History", they were written by a pre-Christian, now-defunct Jewish sect, known as the Essenes. Also according to that book, the reason that Christians did not claim the Dead Sea Scrolls for themselves is that the Essenes probably influenced the later religion of Christianity with its highly-Messianic sect. According to that book, the Christians felt that it was enough that their god and all of their early apostles were Jews; they did not want want their theology to be credited to the Essenes, a Jewish sect, as well. Only the Palestinians, who speak Arabic and who mostly follow the Quran and not the Tanakh, would have the unmitigated "chutzpah" to claim the Dead Sea Scrolls as "their" own heritage. They are trying to erase the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel but they will never succeed.

One thing in perspective, Yiddish means 'of Yid', wherever. You're Yid I'm Yid...were're Judea...
So Yiddish means, the old practice of going to a lonely place and speaking to the Almighty in your simple daily 'mother language'. Be it Hebrew or any other language Your family speaks. Yiddish is of Yid

No-one would confuse Yiddish for Hebrew no matter what alphabet is used, Yiddish was the language of the European Jews before they were destroyed in the Final Solution.

Yiddish is any local language fused with Hebrew and written in Hebrew alphabet.
The fact that the alphabet was passed down so accurately has a reason, significant one.

Even the FOREIGN language Jews used shows their connection to these scrolls.

You cannot change the fact that Yiddish is mostly German with smidgens of Polish and other languages.

Even if so (which it isn't), still a language so foreign to the Hebrew, used by the Jewish people, and it still shows their connection to these scrolls

 

[rylah]

You generalize, many Catholic children in selected countries still study Latin and memorize the High Mass. Not to mention Greek Orthodox children particularly from Greek speaking nations who study ancient Greek and speak modern Greek.

Great! Speaking many languages builds a versatile persona.
Now back to reality- what is the origin of about 50% of the book a priest teaches them in those classes?

Greek.

So what are you doing here trolling a discussion about Hebrew scriptures?

Commenting on the fact that there is nothing unique about Jewish children learning to read ancient texts, as you implied in your trolling.

Jewish kids have been in exile around the globe TWICE. And through generations they've been studying the same language and read the same Torah in one language.

 

[montelatici]

What, the descendants of European women that converted to Judaism have been in exile? I think not.

 

[rylah]

What, the descendants of European women that converted to Judaism have been in exile? I think not.

King David was born of Ruth the Moabite. WHAT??

You see there's almost nothing new you can bring up against 4000 years of tradition.

 

[montelatici]

It's like saying American Hari Krishnas have 4,000 years of Hindu tradition. You people crack me up.

"Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts............."

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

 

[Phoenall]

You are creating a false similarity between the Hebrew alphabet and the Hebrew language. As languages such as Swedish and Latin are distinctly different although both use the Latin alphabet, so Yiddish, which is predominantly German, is not Hebrew despite the alphabet and minor elements of Hebrew and Aramaic, as well as Slavic and Romance language borrowings.

Ok Eloy, when you're right then you're right. Yiddish is basically German written in Hebrew letters. But that doesn't negate the fact that the Dead Seas Scrolls are basically the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) written in the Jewish language of Hebrew, with only a smattering of Aramaic (the language of the Talmud), and a few in Greek. According to the scholarly book "Jews, God and History", they were written by a pre-Christian, now-defunct Jewish sect, known as the Essenes. Also according to that book, the reason that Christians did not claim the Dead Sea Scrolls for themselves is that the Essenes probably influenced the later religion of Christianity with its highly-Messianic sect. According to that book, the Christians felt that it was enough that their god and all of their early apostles were Jews; they did not want want their theology to be credited to the Essenes, a Jewish sect, as well. Only the Palestinians, who speak Arabic and who mostly follow the Quran and not the Tanakh, would have the unmitigated "chutzpah" to claim the Dead Sea Scrolls as "their" own heritage. They are trying to erase the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel but they will never succeed.

One thing in perspective, Yiddish means 'of Yid', wherever. You're Yid I'm Yid...were're Judea...
So Yiddish means, the old practice of going to a lonely place and speaking to the Almighty in your simple daily 'mother language'. Be it Hebrew or any other language Your family speaks. Yiddish is of Yid

No-one would confuse Yiddish for Hebrew no matter what alphabet is used, Yiddish was the language of the European Jews before they were destroyed in the Final Solution.

Yiddish is any local language fused with Hebrew and written in Hebrew alphabet.
The fact that the alphabet was passed down so accurately has a reason, significant one.

Even the FOREIGN language Jews used shows their connection to these scrolls.

You cannot change the fact that Yiddish is mostly German with smidgens of Polish and other languages.

Why not you just have to your original claim, that was debunked by people better versed in it than you will ever be

 

[rylah]

Your "study" also says:

"Before the advent of advanced DNA research, it had been thought by some historians that European Jewry traced to the largely pagan population of ancient Khazaria in the Caucuses, whose leadership was believed to have converted to Judaism beginning around 700 AD. But that theory—known as the Khazarian hypothesis—has been largely discredited by DNA research. One geneticist, Eran Elhaik, has recently attempted to revive the theory, but his research has been sharply challenged."

Then they ASSERT and CLAIM many things.
Basically they that once 20,000 Roman women decided to marry slaves, shave their heads and take upon themselves 613 commandments. And worst of all being called a Jew and treated as such.
And ALL of their children are the Askenazi Jews now?
Amazing!

Monte is this your new little "fact"?

 

[Phoenall]

You generalize, many Catholic children in selected countries still study Latin and memorize the High Mass. Not to mention Greek Orthodox children particularly from Greek speaking nations who study ancient Greek and speak modern Greek.

Great! Speaking many languages builds a versatile persona.
Now back to reality- what is the origin of about 50% of the book a priest teaches them in those classes?

Greek.

So what are you doing here trolling a discussion about Hebrew scriptures?

Commenting on the fact that there is nothing unique about Jewish children learning to read ancient texts, as you implied in your trolling.

Dont like being told in public that you are a troll and spammer do you freddy, that is why you immediately put the blame on others. YOU TROLL THIS BOARD ALL THE TIME

 

[rylah]

Yes and let's not forget that they claim that somehow 80% of the Ashkenazi males remained Middle Eastern...all the women Italian, but the males remained unchanged...

 

[Phoenall]

It's like saying American Hari Krishnas have 4,000 years of Hindu tradition. You people crack me up.

"Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts............."

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

Debunked time and time again using your own links. The same author that refused to allow his peers to digest his sources and stormed of in a temper tantrum.



LOSER

 

[Eloy]

Ok Eloy, when you're right then you're right. Yiddish is basically German written in Hebrew letters. But that doesn't negate the fact that the Dead Seas Scrolls are basically the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) written in the Jewish language of Hebrew, with only a smattering of Aramaic (the language of the Talmud), and a few in Greek. According to the scholarly book "Jews, God and History", they were written by a pre-Christian, now-defunct Jewish sect, known as the Essenes. Also according to that book, the reason that Christians did not claim the Dead Sea Scrolls for themselves is that the Essenes probably influenced the later religion of Christianity with its highly-Messianic sect. According to that book, the Christians felt that it was enough that their god and all of their early apostles were Jews; they did not want want their theology to be credited to the Essenes, a Jewish sect, as well. Only the Palestinians, who speak Arabic and who mostly follow the Quran and not the Tanakh, would have the unmitigated "chutzpah" to claim the Dead Sea Scrolls as "their" own heritage. They are trying to erase the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel but they will never succeed.

One thing in perspective, Yiddish means 'of Yid', wherever. You're Yid I'm Yid...were're Judea...
So Yiddish means, the old practice of going to a lonely place and speaking to the Almighty in your simple daily 'mother language'. Be it Hebrew or any other language Your family speaks. Yiddish is of Yid

No-one would confuse Yiddish for Hebrew no matter what alphabet is used, Yiddish was the language of the European Jews before they were destroyed in the Final Solution.

Yiddish is any local language fused with Hebrew and written in Hebrew alphabet.
The fact that the alphabet was passed down so accurately has a reason, significant one.

Even the FOREIGN language Jews used shows their connection to these scrolls.

You cannot change the fact that Yiddish is mostly German with smidgens of Polish and other languages.

Even if so (which it isn't), still a language so foreign to the Hebrew, used by the Jewish people, and it still shows their connection to these scrolls

No, the European Jews in the 20th century were unrelated to the Semitic Jews of the Middle East. Simply using a Hebrew alphabet is insufficient to establish a connection, whatever that means, between the two groups. Scottish Gaelic was a spoken language without any alphabet when the monks of the early centuries C.E. introduced a Latin alphabet but subsequent use of the Latin alphabet cannot demonstrate any connection between the Scots and, say, the Romanians who used the same script.

 

[Eloy]

Yes and let's not forget that they claim that somehow 80% of the Ashkenazi males remained Middle Eastern...all the women Italian, but the males remained unchanged...

Your notion that the Ashkenazim were predominantly Semitic on the male side is fanciful.

 

[Phoenall]

One thing in perspective, Yiddish means 'of Yid', wherever. You're Yid I'm Yid...were're Judea...
So Yiddish means, the old practice of going to a lonely place and speaking to the Almighty in your simple daily 'mother language'. Be it Hebrew or any other language Your family speaks. Yiddish is of Yid

No-one would confuse Yiddish for Hebrew no matter what alphabet is used, Yiddish was the language of the European Jews before they were destroyed in the Final Solution.

Yiddish is any local language fused with Hebrew and written in Hebrew alphabet.
The fact that the alphabet was passed down so accurately has a reason, significant one.

Even the FOREIGN language Jews used shows their connection to these scrolls.

You cannot change the fact that Yiddish is mostly German with smidgens of Polish and other languages.

Even if so (which it isn't), still a language so foreign to the Hebrew, used by the Jewish people, and it still shows their connection to these scrolls

No, the European Jews in the 20th century were unrelated to the Semitic Jews of the Middle East. Simply using a Hebrew alphabet is insufficient to establish a connection, whatever that means, between the two groups. Scottish Gaelic was a spoken language without any alphabet when the monks of the early centuries C.E. introduced a Latin alphabet but subsequent use of the Latin alphabet cannot demonstrate any connection between the Scots and, say, the Romanians who used the same script.

DNA testing has shown that the Jews are closely linked to the Jews of pre Roman conquest times, showing that you only believe the hate sites version of events