Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.

[toastman]

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RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Now you are just being argumentative without a cause.

But the true theme is all about the Right to the Existence of Israel and the Jewish National Home. In contrast, the Arab Palestinians like DAS, who support violence, have a bit more of a counter-Theme:

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◈ Palestine from the river to the sea, and from north to south, is a land of the Palestinian people;​

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◈ Palestine - all of Palestine - is a land of Islamic and Arab affiliation, a blessed sacred land;​

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◈ No recognition of the legitimacy of "Israel" and the legitimacy of its presence on any part of Palestine no matter how long;​

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◈ Liberation of Palestine is a national duty;​

And, in my opinion, these two opposing views should be the central theme.

Which opposing views?

(COMMENT)

The "Right for Israel to Exist" Vs "The Right of the Arab Palestinians to Oppose the Existence."


Most Respectfully,
R

OK, so where does Israel get the "right" to exist inside Palestine's international borders?

Palestine does not have, and have never had international borders

You said it.

You prove it.

Prove what? I could find links for every country in the world that says “this countries international borders are .........”
there is nothing for Palestine however. Also:
“In 1988, Palestine declared its independence without specifying its borders”

Borders of Israel - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Any other questions ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

One Democratic State Conference.

 

[Hollie]

Islamic Apartheid



Palestinian Islamic Scholar: Only Mizrahi Jews Would Have the Right to Live Amongst the Palestinians

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

Fatah Central Committee Member Jamal Muhaisen: Hamas Is ISIS in Palestine

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews
⁜→ Hollie, et al,

BLUF: This was expressed over a year ago.

Fatah Central Committee Member Jamal Muhaisen: Hamas Is ISIS in Palestine

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Our friend Hollie points-out that this feeling is not new. This interview is over a year old. And it illuminates a gradual growth in the level of discontent with the Arab Palestinian leadership.

This is a very similar political view that has been expressed many times in the discussion group over the past several years. Our friend Hollie brings it to the forefront once again.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

et al,

Can anyone remember when Ilan Pappe actually had a job; other than Israel Bashing?

One Democratic State Conference.

(COMMENT)

I like it when he describes himself as an "expatriate" Israeli historian and "socialist activist." When I came back from Vietnam, I could not believe how College Professors taught "from the view of an Idea World" to impressionable students.

v/r
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

et al,

Can anyone remember when Ilan Pappe actually had a job; other than Israel Bashing?

One Democratic State Conference.

(COMMENT)

I like it when he describes himself as an "expatriate" Israeli historian and "socialist activist." When I came back from Vietnam, I could not believe how College Professors taught "from the view of an Idea World" to impressionable students.

v/r
R

I am a Vietnam Vet. I still don't know why I was there. Perhaps Smedley Butler could give us a clue. Or perhaps Susan Abulhawa.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

I'm afraid Fatah and Hamas officials will continue to seethe over Israeli-Arab normalization of relations
as it reduces their clout in the region.




Fatah, Hamas Officials out at UAE over Deal with Israel: Take Your Hands Off the Palestinian Cause!

 

[Hollie]

et al,

Can anyone remember when Ilan Pappe actually had a job; other than Israel Bashing?

One Democratic State Conference.

(COMMENT)

I like it when he describes himself as an "expatriate" Israeli historian and "socialist activist." When I came back from Vietnam, I could not believe how College Professors taught "from the view of an Idea World" to impressionable students.

v/r
R

It seems Pappe found something of a niche market churning out books that appeal to a ''social justice warrior'' mentality of leftist US students.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I don't have an explanation for the Vietnam experience, myself.

I like it when he describes himself as an "expatriate" Israeli historian and "socialist activist." When I came back from Vietnam, I could not believe how College Professors taught "from the view of an Ideal World" to impressionable students.

I am a Vietnam Vet. I still don't know why I was there. Perhaps Smedley Butler could give us a clue. Or perhaps Susan Abulhawa.

(COMMENT)

People of different periods in history usually have different perspectives on an event in their time, as do modern historians have. Veterans of the Wounded Knee engagement told a very different story at the time, from how contemporary historians view the "massacre" today. Vietnam (The 10,000 Day War) has almost as many different perspectives as there are veterans. And having been to Afghanistan, Iraq, and Yemen, I can see even more varying perspectives on US Policy that shaped the conflicts.

One thing that is common to every war, is the profit to the commercial industry in support. And that is a very different story in and by itself.

MG Butler, USMC, certainly has a very valid political perspective of war than do those that totally divorced themselves from the politics.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

One thing that is common to every war, is the profit to the commercial industry in support. And that is a very different story in and by itself.

One thing I have learned experiencing a lifetime of war is that war is a euphemism for armed robbery.

The hundred year war against the Palestinians is a crime of armed robbery.

 

[Hollie]

One thing that is common to every war, is the profit to the commercial industry in support. And that is a very different story in and by itself.

One thing I have learned experiencing a lifetime of war is that war is a euphemism for armed robbery.

The hundred year war against the Palestinians is a crime of armed robbery.

What war?

Link?

 

[toastman]

One thing that is common to every war, is the profit to the commercial industry in support. And that is a very different story in and by itself.

One thing I have learned experiencing a lifetime of war is that war is a euphemism for armed robbery.

The hundred year war against the Palestinians is a crime of armed robbery.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You know nothing about the conflict , you post. I thing but propaganda videos and every single one of your lies is dismantled. Pathetic propagandist doesn’t even begin to describe you..

 

[P F Tinmore]

One thing that is common to every war, is the profit to the commercial industry in support. And that is a very different story in and by itself.

One thing I have learned experiencing a lifetime of war is that war is a euphemism for armed robbery.

The hundred year war against the Palestinians is a crime of armed robbery.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You know nothing about the conflict , you post. I thing but propaganda videos and every single one of your lies is dismantled. Pathetic propagandist doesn’t even begin to describe you..

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You know nothing about the conflict ,

IOW, my posts do not match Israel's bullshit propaganda.

 

[Hollie]

One thing that is common to every war, is the profit to the commercial industry in support. And that is a very different story in and by itself.

One thing I have learned experiencing a lifetime of war is that war is a euphemism for armed robbery.

The hundred year war against the Palestinians is a crime of armed robbery.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You know nothing about the conflict , you post. I thing but propaganda videos and every single one of your lies is dismantled. Pathetic propagandist doesn’t even begin to describe you..

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You know nothing about the conflict ,

IOW, my posts do not match Israel's bullshit propaganda.

Your Pom Pom flailing for Islamic terrorist propaganda is a hoot.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

Leader of Palestinian Militant Faction: Palestinians Taught People of the Gulf How to Read and Write



The Palis also invented canned tuna.

 

[P F Tinmore]