Palestinian identity ?

[docmauser1]

Really Front Page Mag, a hate mag by Horowitz, Zionist commie who turned right wing after the cold war. Good for starting fires, also the writer is also a Zionist Islam hater right winger. Of course the Palestinians were living in Palestine, 70% arabs in Palestine at turn of the century.

Funny, how quick arabs-muslims manage to crowd into a country, eh? Just look at Europe! A wink of an eye, and hordes upon hordes of them are in!

Same as the Jews then in occupied Palestine

Since when are arabs being referred to as "jews"?

In Babylon Jews were part Arab,Dumpkoff

[yawn] There were no "arabs" that time, of course.

 

[montelatici]

Really Front Page Mag, a hate mag by Horowitz, Zionist commie who turned right wing after the cold war. Good for starting fires, also the writer is also a Zionist Islam hater right winger. Of course the Palestinians were living in Palestine, 70% arabs in Palestine at turn of the century.

Funny, how quick arabs-muslims manage to crowd into a country, eh? Just look at Europe! A wink of an eye, and hordes upon hordes of them are in!

Same as the Jews then in occupied Palestine

Since when are arabs being referred to as "jews"?

In Babylon Jews were part Arab,Dumpkoff

[yawn] There were no "arabs" that time, of course.

Who do you think the Sabaeans and all the other peoples that spoke Arabic in 3000 BC and earlier? Norwegians?

Before the Europeans invaded Israel there were Christian Arabs, Jewish Arabs and Muslim Arabs. Arab denotes a common culture and language. Jewish, Christian and Muslim Arabs of the Maghreb eat couscous and hummus, for example.

Arabian denotes people from the Arabian peninsula. Being a desert, there were never very many of them.

Historicizing the Concept of Arab Jews in the Maghrib on JSTOR

 

[docmauser1]

Funny, how quick arabs-muslims manage to crowd into a country, eh? Just look at Europe! A wink of an eye, and hordes upon hordes of them are in!

Same as the Jews then in occupied Palestine

Since when are arabs being referred to as "jews"?

In Babylon Jews were part Arab,Dumpkoff

[yawn] There were no "arabs" that time, of course.

Who do you think the Sabaeans and all the other peoples that spoke Arabic in 3000 BC and earlier? Norwegians?

Hopefully, because sumerian has no known (so far) relatives.

Before the Europeans invaded Israel there were Christian Arabs, Jewish Arabs and Muslim Arabs....

And norwegian arabs, evidently. Any arab arabs, bth.?

 

[Boston1]

The term palestinian was invented at the time the only people in this area where judaic people.

So I guess palestinians are all judaic in nature ;--)

 

[Phoenall]

Funny, how quick arabs-muslims manage to crowd into a country, eh? Just look at Europe! A wink of an eye, and hordes upon hordes of them are in!

Same as the Jews then in occupied Palestine

Since when are arabs being referred to as "jews"?

In Babylon Jews were part Arab,Dumpkoff

[yawn] There were no "arabs" that time, of course.

Who do you think the Sabaeans and all the other peoples that spoke Arabic in 3000 BC and earlier? Norwegians?

Before the Europeans invaded Israel there were Christian Arabs, Jewish Arabs and Muslim Arabs. Arab denotes a common culture and language. Jewish, Christian and Muslim Arabs of the Maghreb eat couscous and hummus, for example.

Arabian denotes people from the Arabian peninsula. Being a desert, there were never very many of them.

Historicizing the Concept of Arab Jews in the Maghrib on JSTOR

CAN YOU PROVE THIS ?

 

[American_Jihad]

Muslim Terrorist Stayed "Single" for the 72 Virgins in Paradise
April 18, 2016
Daniel Greenfield

Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus. Muslim terrorists are from a whole other planet.

Ibrahim Barda'aya, a 54-year-old single resident of al-Aroub to the north of Hevron in Judea, was recently shot dead by security forces as he attempted to attack armed with an ax.

...

Either that or he was gay. I'm not sure how Allah is supposed to deal with that one when it comes to dispensing virgins from his imaginary brothel. But here's what Ibrahim found so enormously appealing that he forsook all female company on earth.

...

Even Muslim heaven is basically an ISIS rape camp.

Muslim Terrorist Stayed "Single" for the 72 Virgins in Paradise

 

[Phoenall]

Muslim Terrorist Stayed "Single" for the 72 Virgins in Paradise
April 18, 2016
Daniel Greenfield

Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus. Muslim terrorists are from a whole other planet.

Ibrahim Barda'aya, a 54-year-old single resident of al-Aroub to the north of Hevron in Judea, was recently shot dead by security forces as he attempted to attack armed with an ax.

...

Either that or he was gay. I'm not sure how Allah is supposed to deal with that one when it comes to dispensing virgins from his imaginary brothel. But here's what Ibrahim found so enormously appealing that he forsook all female company on earth.

...

Even Muslim heaven is basically an ISIS rape camp.

Muslim Terrorist Stayed "Single" for the 72 Virgins in Paradise

It was a mistake that was never rectified, the original words were 72 raisins but the scribe writing this down squished a fly and the dead body altered the meaning from raisins to virgins. What is a squiggle between Islamic terrorist friends

 

[American_Jihad]

Bus Bombing in Jerusalem
A message of "peace" from the Palestinians as the UN Security Council discusses the Mideast conflict.
April 19, 2016
Joseph Klein

In the midst of the United Nations Security Council's April 18th quarterly "open debate" on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Israel's UN Ambassador Danny Danon interrupted the proceedings with news of an explosion on a Jerusalem bus. The explosion was subsequently confirmed by police to have been caused by a terrorist bomb. At least 21 people were injured in the attack. Debkafile cited medical sources in reporting that “nuts and bolts were found in the bodies of some of the wounded.” The Palestinian terrorist himself, a resident of East Jerusalem, did not die during his bombing, but was severely wounded.

Not surprisingly, Hamas praised the attack, although it did not immediately claim responsibility for it: “Hamas welcomes the Jerusalem operation, and considers it a natural reaction to Israeli crimes, especially field executions and the desecration of the Al-Aqsa Mosque.”

Meanwhile, Hamas has been busy diverting materials intended for reconstruction of homes in Gaza to build more terror tunnels. On the same day as the Jerusalem bus bombing attack, the Israeli Defense Force announced that it had discovered a tunnel extending more than two kilometers from Gaza underneath an Israeli community near the Gaza border. According to a Debkafile report, the tunnel “appeared to be wide enough to enable Hamas fighters to infiltrate into Israel and return with Israeli prisoners.”

The Jerusalem district police commander, Deputy Commisioner Yoram Halevy, warned that "a large wave of attacks is ahead of us."

...

The Palestinian teenager may be a “child,” but he is a terrorist who deserves no mercy. His victim’s teenage daughter, Renana Meir, had to witness her mother’s brutal death. She may be traumatized for the rest of her life.

At the opening of the Security Council meeting, Renana and her father Natan noted that “It is difficult to express in words the deep pain and unbearable longing. This sense of loss breaks our heart and our soul. With broken hearts we ask the international community for help. We hear those who say that terror is a result of frustration, and we ask – is there anything more frustrating than what we have endured?”

Mansour could not even muster a modicum of humanity to express his condolences and regret for what a Palestinian terrorist “child” had done in taking away an innocent mother from her innocent children. His silence speaks volumes about the Palestinians’ culture of hate and violence against Jews.

Bus Bombing in Jerusalem

 

[Phoenall]

Bus Bombing in Jerusalem
A message of "peace" from the Palestinians as the UN Security Council discusses the Mideast conflict.
April 19, 2016
Joseph Klein

In the midst of the United Nations Security Council's April 18th quarterly "open debate" on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Israel's UN Ambassador Danny Danon interrupted the proceedings with news of an explosion on a Jerusalem bus. The explosion was subsequently confirmed by police to have been caused by a terrorist bomb. At least 21 people were injured in the attack. Debkafile cited medical sources in reporting that “nuts and bolts were found in the bodies of some of the wounded.” The Palestinian terrorist himself, a resident of East Jerusalem, did not die during his bombing, but was severely wounded.

Not surprisingly, Hamas praised the attack, although it did not immediately claim responsibility for it: “Hamas welcomes the Jerusalem operation, and considers it a natural reaction to Israeli crimes, especially field executions and the desecration of the Al-Aqsa Mosque.”

Meanwhile, Hamas has been busy diverting materials intended for reconstruction of homes in Gaza to build more terror tunnels. On the same day as the Jerusalem bus bombing attack, the Israeli Defense Force announced that it had discovered a tunnel extending more than two kilometers from Gaza underneath an Israeli community near the Gaza border. According to a Debkafile report, the tunnel “appeared to be wide enough to enable Hamas fighters to infiltrate into Israel and return with Israeli prisoners.”

The Jerusalem district police commander, Deputy Commisioner Yoram Halevy, warned that "a large wave of attacks is ahead of us."

...

The Palestinian teenager may be a “child,” but he is a terrorist who deserves no mercy. His victim’s teenage daughter, Renana Meir, had to witness her mother’s brutal death. She may be traumatized for the rest of her life.

At the opening of the Security Council meeting, Renana and her father Natan noted that “It is difficult to express in words the deep pain and unbearable longing. This sense of loss breaks our heart and our soul. With broken hearts we ask the international community for help. We hear those who say that terror is a result of frustration, and we ask – is there anything more frustrating than what we have endured?”

Mansour could not even muster a modicum of humanity to express his condolences and regret for what a Palestinian terrorist “child” had done in taking away an innocent mother from her innocent children. His silence speaks volumes about the Palestinians’ culture of hate and violence against Jews.

Bus Bombing in Jerusalem

Time for a non violent approach to the situation, close the Temple mount to all muslims for a period of one month. Have it be known anyone seen up there without due cause will be shot for terrorist activity.

 

[American_Jihad]

Israel Gains the Upper Hand over Hamas in Gaza’s Subterranean War
The Israeli army's new technologies and methods for combatting the terror group.
May 13, 2016
Ari Lieberman

As Israel nears its 68th year of independence, Israelis can take pride in the fact that they have much to celebrate. Unemployment is low and standards of living are comparable to those of affluent Western nations. Israel’s citizens have transformed a semi-arid land into an oasis. Its innovative and resourceful people have turned the nation into a technology giant. Water shortages that plagued the nation during its formative years are now a thing of the past thanks to cost-effective desalinization plants and other innovative water technologies. Israel maintains a highly developed and modern infrastructure and its formidable military continuously ranks among the most powerful. Recent natural gas finds off Israel’s coast have instantly transformed the Jewish State into a major energy player with various nations eager to sign deals and form partnerships. When natural disasters strike distant countries, Israeli rescue and medical personnel are among the first on the scene and are world renown for the efficiency and effectiveness.

It’s no wonder that in poll after poll, Israelis consistently rank among the happiest people in the world. Perhaps the greatest testament to Israel’s success is the growth of its population. In 1948, only 6% of world Jewry resided in Israel. Today, that figure has swelled to nearly 50%, a development not seen since the Second Temple Era, two-thousand years ago!

Despite these phenomenal achievements, Israelis still have to contend with menacing and malignant forces lurking just beyond their borders. Up until recently, attention was focused on the north in Lebanon where the Iranian-backed Hezbollah terrorist group maintains a stockpile of 110,000 missiles, all aimed at Israel. With help from Iran, the Shia proxy group is also attempting to establish missile bases in Syria from where it could open a second front against Israel. Israel has thus far been successful in thwarting these nefarious efforts, striking out militarily when necessary and continues to remain vigilant.
...

Israel Gains the Upper Hand over Hamas in Gaza’s Subterranean War

 

[montelatici]

Really Front Page Mag, a hate mag by Horowitz, Zionist commie who turned right wing after the cold war. Good for starting fires, also the writer is also a Zionist Islam hater right winger. Of course the Palestinians were living in Palestine, 70% arabs in Palestine at turn of the century.

Funny, how quick arabs-muslims manage to crowd into a country, eh? Just look at Europe! A wink of an eye, and hordes upon hordes of them are in!

Same as the Jews then in occupied Palestine

Since when are arabs being referred to as "jews"?

In Babylon Jews were part Arab,Dumpkoff

[yawn] There were no "arabs" that time, of course.

The last KIng of Judea, Herod, had an Arab mother and an Edomite father.

 

[American_Jihad]

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"
What "Nakba" commemorations really disclose.
May 16, 2016
Daniel Mandel

Yesterday, May 15, Palestinians and their supporters, as they have done increasingly over recent years, marked the nakba (Arabic for ‘catastrophe’) –– the day 68 years ago that Israel came into existence upon the expiry of British rule under a League of Nations mandate.

That juxtaposition of Israel and nakba isn’t accidental. We’re meant to understand that Israel’s creation caused the displacement of hundreds of thousand of Palestinian Arabs.

But the truth is different. A British document from the scene in early 1948, declassified in 2013, tells the story: “the Arabs have suffered ... overwhelming defeats ... Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands.”

In other words, Jew and Arabs, including irregular foreign militias from neighboring states, were already at war and Arabs were fleeing even before Israel came into sovereign existence on May 15, 1948.

Neighboring Arab armies and internal Palestinian militias responded to Israel’s declaration of independence with full-scale hostilities. In fact, the headline for the New York Times’ famous report on that day includes the words, ‘Tel Aviv Is Bombed, Egypt Orders Invasion.’ And, indeed, the head of Israel’s provisional government, David Ben Gurion, delivered his first radio address to the nation from an air-raid shelter.

Israel successfully resisted invasion and dismemberment –– the universally affirmed objective of the Arab belligerents –– and Palestinians came off worst of all from the whole venture. At war’s end, over 600,000 Palestinians were living as refugees under neighboring Arab regimes.

As Saudi columnist Abdulateef Al-Mulhim observed on previous anniversary, “It was a defeat but the Arabs chose to call it a catastrophe.” In fact, the Syrian, Qustantin Zuraiq, in his 1948 pamphlet, Ma’an al-Nakba (The Meaning of the Catastrophe), was first used the term nakba in this context, and the catastrophe of his description was not an Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, but their flight in anticipation of an Arab invasion and destruction of Israel.

Accordingly, the term nakba, as used today, smacks of falsehood, inasmuch as it implies a tragedy inflicted by Israel. The "tragedy," of course, was self-inflicted.

As Israel’s UN ambassador Abba Eban was to put it some years later, “Once you determine the responsibility for that war, you have determined the responsibility for the refugee problem. Nothing in the history of our generation is clearer or less controversial than the initiative of Arab governments for the conflict out of which the refugee tragedy emerged.”

However, the Palestinians do not mourn today the ill-conceived choice of going to war to abort Israel. They mourn only that they failed.

...

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"

 

[montelatici]

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"
What "Nakba" commemorations really disclose.
May 16, 2016
Daniel Mandel

Yesterday, May 15, Palestinians and their supporters, as they have done increasingly over recent years, marked the nakba (Arabic for ‘catastrophe’) –– the day 68 years ago that Israel came into existence upon the expiry of British rule under a League of Nations mandate.

That juxtaposition of Israel and nakba isn’t accidental. We’re meant to understand that Israel’s creation caused the displacement of hundreds of thousand of Palestinian Arabs.

But the truth is different. A British document from the scene in early 1948, declassified in 2013, tells the story: “the Arabs have suffered ... overwhelming defeats ... Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands.”

In other words, Jew and Arabs, including irregular foreign militias from neighboring states, were already at war and Arabs were fleeing even before Israel came into sovereign existence on May 15, 1948.

Neighboring Arab armies and internal Palestinian militias responded to Israel’s declaration of independence with full-scale hostilities. In fact, the headline for the New York Times’ famous report on that day includes the words, ‘Tel Aviv Is Bombed, Egypt Orders Invasion.’ And, indeed, the head of Israel’s provisional government, David Ben Gurion, delivered his first radio address to the nation from an air-raid shelter.

Israel successfully resisted invasion and dismemberment –– the universally affirmed objective of the Arab belligerents –– and Palestinians came off worst of all from the whole venture. At war’s end, over 600,000 Palestinians were living as refugees under neighboring Arab regimes.

As Saudi columnist Abdulateef Al-Mulhim observed on previous anniversary, “It was a defeat but the Arabs chose to call it a catastrophe.” In fact, the Syrian, Qustantin Zuraiq, in his 1948 pamphlet, Ma’an al-Nakba (The Meaning of the Catastrophe), was first used the term nakba in this context, and the catastrophe of his description was not an Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, but their flight in anticipation of an Arab invasion and destruction of Israel.

Accordingly, the term nakba, as used today, smacks of falsehood, inasmuch as it implies a tragedy inflicted by Israel. The "tragedy," of course, was self-inflicted.

As Israel’s UN ambassador Abba Eban was to put it some years later, “Once you determine the responsibility for that war, you have determined the responsibility for the refugee problem. Nothing in the history of our generation is clearer or less controversial than the initiative of Arab governments for the conflict out of which the refugee tragedy emerged.”

However, the Palestinians do not mourn today the ill-conceived choice of going to war to abort Israel. They mourn only that they failed.

...

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"

As usual you are full of crap. What the declassified documents actually said before the intervention of the Arab states to try to stop Jewish aggression was:

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'....
After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes".

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

 

[American_Jihad]

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"
What "Nakba" commemorations really disclose.
May 16, 2016
Daniel Mandel

Yesterday, May 15, Palestinians and their supporters, as they have done increasingly over recent years, marked the nakba (Arabic for ‘catastrophe’) –– the day 68 years ago that Israel came into existence upon the expiry of British rule under a League of Nations mandate.

That juxtaposition of Israel and nakba isn’t accidental. We’re meant to understand that Israel’s creation caused the displacement of hundreds of thousand of Palestinian Arabs.

But the truth is different. A British document from the scene in early 1948, declassified in 2013, tells the story: “the Arabs have suffered ... overwhelming defeats ... Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands.”

In other words, Jew and Arabs, including irregular foreign militias from neighboring states, were already at war and Arabs were fleeing even before Israel came into sovereign existence on May 15, 1948.

Neighboring Arab armies and internal Palestinian militias responded to Israel’s declaration of independence with full-scale hostilities. In fact, the headline for the New York Times’ famous report on that day includes the words, ‘Tel Aviv Is Bombed, Egypt Orders Invasion.’ And, indeed, the head of Israel’s provisional government, David Ben Gurion, delivered his first radio address to the nation from an air-raid shelter.

Israel successfully resisted invasion and dismemberment –– the universally affirmed objective of the Arab belligerents –– and Palestinians came off worst of all from the whole venture. At war’s end, over 600,000 Palestinians were living as refugees under neighboring Arab regimes.

As Saudi columnist Abdulateef Al-Mulhim observed on previous anniversary, “It was a defeat but the Arabs chose to call it a catastrophe.” In fact, the Syrian, Qustantin Zuraiq, in his 1948 pamphlet, Ma’an al-Nakba (The Meaning of the Catastrophe), was first used the term nakba in this context, and the catastrophe of his description was not an Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, but their flight in anticipation of an Arab invasion and destruction of Israel.

Accordingly, the term nakba, as used today, smacks of falsehood, inasmuch as it implies a tragedy inflicted by Israel. The "tragedy," of course, was self-inflicted.

As Israel’s UN ambassador Abba Eban was to put it some years later, “Once you determine the responsibility for that war, you have determined the responsibility for the refugee problem. Nothing in the history of our generation is clearer or less controversial than the initiative of Arab governments for the conflict out of which the refugee tragedy emerged.”

However, the Palestinians do not mourn today the ill-conceived choice of going to war to abort Israel. They mourn only that they failed.

...

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"

As usual you are full of crap. What the declassified documents actually said before the intervention of the Arab states to try to stop Jewish aggression was:

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'....
After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes".

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

Truth, hitler picked the wrong people to exterminate...

 

[Phoenall]

Funny, how quick arabs-muslims manage to crowd into a country, eh? Just look at Europe! A wink of an eye, and hordes upon hordes of them are in!

Same as the Jews then in occupied Palestine

Since when are arabs being referred to as "jews"?

In Babylon Jews were part Arab,Dumpkoff

[yawn] There were no "arabs" that time, of course.

The last KIng of Judea, Herod, had an Arab mother and an Edomite father.

AND ? ? ? ?

 

[Phoenall]

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"
What "Nakba" commemorations really disclose.
May 16, 2016
Daniel Mandel

Yesterday, May 15, Palestinians and their supporters, as they have done increasingly over recent years, marked the nakba (Arabic for ‘catastrophe’) –– the day 68 years ago that Israel came into existence upon the expiry of British rule under a League of Nations mandate.

That juxtaposition of Israel and nakba isn’t accidental. We’re meant to understand that Israel’s creation caused the displacement of hundreds of thousand of Palestinian Arabs.

But the truth is different. A British document from the scene in early 1948, declassified in 2013, tells the story: “the Arabs have suffered ... overwhelming defeats ... Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands.”

In other words, Jew and Arabs, including irregular foreign militias from neighboring states, were already at war and Arabs were fleeing even before Israel came into sovereign existence on May 15, 1948.

Neighboring Arab armies and internal Palestinian militias responded to Israel’s declaration of independence with full-scale hostilities. In fact, the headline for the New York Times’ famous report on that day includes the words, ‘Tel Aviv Is Bombed, Egypt Orders Invasion.’ And, indeed, the head of Israel’s provisional government, David Ben Gurion, delivered his first radio address to the nation from an air-raid shelter.

Israel successfully resisted invasion and dismemberment –– the universally affirmed objective of the Arab belligerents –– and Palestinians came off worst of all from the whole venture. At war’s end, over 600,000 Palestinians were living as refugees under neighboring Arab regimes.

As Saudi columnist Abdulateef Al-Mulhim observed on previous anniversary, “It was a defeat but the Arabs chose to call it a catastrophe.” In fact, the Syrian, Qustantin Zuraiq, in his 1948 pamphlet, Ma’an al-Nakba (The Meaning of the Catastrophe), was first used the term nakba in this context, and the catastrophe of his description was not an Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, but their flight in anticipation of an Arab invasion and destruction of Israel.

Accordingly, the term nakba, as used today, smacks of falsehood, inasmuch as it implies a tragedy inflicted by Israel. The "tragedy," of course, was self-inflicted.

As Israel’s UN ambassador Abba Eban was to put it some years later, “Once you determine the responsibility for that war, you have determined the responsibility for the refugee problem. Nothing in the history of our generation is clearer or less controversial than the initiative of Arab governments for the conflict out of which the refugee tragedy emerged.”

However, the Palestinians do not mourn today the ill-conceived choice of going to war to abort Israel. They mourn only that they failed.

...

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"

As usual you are full of crap. What the declassified documents actually said before the intervention of the Arab states to try to stop Jewish aggression was:

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'....
After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes".

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

THE BEST YOU HAVE IS AN ANTI SEMITIC RAG THAT HAS BEEN SUED FOR REPORTING SUCH LIES. IT HAS THE LOWEST NUMBERS OF READERS OUT OF ALL THE DAILY'S IN THE U.K.

 

[montelatici]

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"
What "Nakba" commemorations really disclose.
May 16, 2016
Daniel Mandel

Yesterday, May 15, Palestinians and their supporters, as they have done increasingly over recent years, marked the nakba (Arabic for ‘catastrophe’) –– the day 68 years ago that Israel came into existence upon the expiry of British rule under a League of Nations mandate.

That juxtaposition of Israel and nakba isn’t accidental. We’re meant to understand that Israel’s creation caused the displacement of hundreds of thousand of Palestinian Arabs.

But the truth is different. A British document from the scene in early 1948, declassified in 2013, tells the story: “the Arabs have suffered ... overwhelming defeats ... Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands.”

In other words, Jew and Arabs, including irregular foreign militias from neighboring states, were already at war and Arabs were fleeing even before Israel came into sovereign existence on May 15, 1948.

Neighboring Arab armies and internal Palestinian militias responded to Israel’s declaration of independence with full-scale hostilities. In fact, the headline for the New York Times’ famous report on that day includes the words, ‘Tel Aviv Is Bombed, Egypt Orders Invasion.’ And, indeed, the head of Israel’s provisional government, David Ben Gurion, delivered his first radio address to the nation from an air-raid shelter.

Israel successfully resisted invasion and dismemberment –– the universally affirmed objective of the Arab belligerents –– and Palestinians came off worst of all from the whole venture. At war’s end, over 600,000 Palestinians were living as refugees under neighboring Arab regimes.

As Saudi columnist Abdulateef Al-Mulhim observed on previous anniversary, “It was a defeat but the Arabs chose to call it a catastrophe.” In fact, the Syrian, Qustantin Zuraiq, in his 1948 pamphlet, Ma’an al-Nakba (The Meaning of the Catastrophe), was first used the term nakba in this context, and the catastrophe of his description was not an Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, but their flight in anticipation of an Arab invasion and destruction of Israel.

Accordingly, the term nakba, as used today, smacks of falsehood, inasmuch as it implies a tragedy inflicted by Israel. The "tragedy," of course, was self-inflicted.

As Israel’s UN ambassador Abba Eban was to put it some years later, “Once you determine the responsibility for that war, you have determined the responsibility for the refugee problem. Nothing in the history of our generation is clearer or less controversial than the initiative of Arab governments for the conflict out of which the refugee tragedy emerged.”

However, the Palestinians do not mourn today the ill-conceived choice of going to war to abort Israel. They mourn only that they failed.

...

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"

As usual you are full of crap. What the declassified documents actually said before the intervention of the Arab states to try to stop Jewish aggression was:

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'....
After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes".

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

Truth, hitler picked the wrong people to exterminate...

What does Hitler have to do with Christians and Muslims of the Middle East?

 

[Hollie]

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"
What "Nakba" commemorations really disclose.
May 16, 2016
Daniel Mandel

Yesterday, May 15, Palestinians and their supporters, as they have done increasingly over recent years, marked the nakba (Arabic for ‘catastrophe’) –– the day 68 years ago that Israel came into existence upon the expiry of British rule under a League of Nations mandate.

That juxtaposition of Israel and nakba isn’t accidental. We’re meant to understand that Israel’s creation caused the displacement of hundreds of thousand of Palestinian Arabs.

But the truth is different. A British document from the scene in early 1948, declassified in 2013, tells the story: “the Arabs have suffered ... overwhelming defeats ... Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands.”

In other words, Jew and Arabs, including irregular foreign militias from neighboring states, were already at war and Arabs were fleeing even before Israel came into sovereign existence on May 15, 1948.

Neighboring Arab armies and internal Palestinian militias responded to Israel’s declaration of independence with full-scale hostilities. In fact, the headline for the New York Times’ famous report on that day includes the words, ‘Tel Aviv Is Bombed, Egypt Orders Invasion.’ And, indeed, the head of Israel’s provisional government, David Ben Gurion, delivered his first radio address to the nation from an air-raid shelter.

Israel successfully resisted invasion and dismemberment –– the universally affirmed objective of the Arab belligerents –– and Palestinians came off worst of all from the whole venture. At war’s end, over 600,000 Palestinians were living as refugees under neighboring Arab regimes.

As Saudi columnist Abdulateef Al-Mulhim observed on previous anniversary, “It was a defeat but the Arabs chose to call it a catastrophe.” In fact, the Syrian, Qustantin Zuraiq, in his 1948 pamphlet, Ma’an al-Nakba (The Meaning of the Catastrophe), was first used the term nakba in this context, and the catastrophe of his description was not an Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, but their flight in anticipation of an Arab invasion and destruction of Israel.

Accordingly, the term nakba, as used today, smacks of falsehood, inasmuch as it implies a tragedy inflicted by Israel. The "tragedy," of course, was self-inflicted.

As Israel’s UN ambassador Abba Eban was to put it some years later, “Once you determine the responsibility for that war, you have determined the responsibility for the refugee problem. Nothing in the history of our generation is clearer or less controversial than the initiative of Arab governments for the conflict out of which the refugee tragedy emerged.”

However, the Palestinians do not mourn today the ill-conceived choice of going to war to abort Israel. They mourn only that they failed.

...

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"

As usual you are full of crap. What the declassified documents actually said before the intervention of the Arab states to try to stop Jewish aggression was:

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'....
After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes".

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

Truth, hitler picked the wrong people to exterminate...

What does Hitler have to do with Christians and Muslims of the Middle East?

Do you mean the Christians of the Islamist Middle East who have largely been exterminated by your Islamist heroes?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"
What "Nakba" commemorations really disclose.
May 16, 2016
Daniel Mandel

Yesterday, May 15, Palestinians and their supporters, as they have done increasingly over recent years, marked the nakba (Arabic for ‘catastrophe’) –– the day 68 years ago that Israel came into existence upon the expiry of British rule under a League of Nations mandate.

That juxtaposition of Israel and nakba isn’t accidental. We’re meant to understand that Israel’s creation caused the displacement of hundreds of thousand of Palestinian Arabs.

But the truth is different. A British document from the scene in early 1948, declassified in 2013, tells the story: “the Arabs have suffered ... overwhelming defeats ... Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands.”

In other words, Jew and Arabs, including irregular foreign militias from neighboring states, were already at war and Arabs were fleeing even before Israel came into sovereign existence on May 15, 1948.

Neighboring Arab armies and internal Palestinian militias responded to Israel’s declaration of independence with full-scale hostilities. In fact, the headline for the New York Times’ famous report on that day includes the words, ‘Tel Aviv Is Bombed, Egypt Orders Invasion.’ And, indeed, the head of Israel’s provisional government, David Ben Gurion, delivered his first radio address to the nation from an air-raid shelter.

Israel successfully resisted invasion and dismemberment –– the universally affirmed objective of the Arab belligerents –– and Palestinians came off worst of all from the whole venture. At war’s end, over 600,000 Palestinians were living as refugees under neighboring Arab regimes.

As Saudi columnist Abdulateef Al-Mulhim observed on previous anniversary, “It was a defeat but the Arabs chose to call it a catastrophe.” In fact, the Syrian, Qustantin Zuraiq, in his 1948 pamphlet, Ma’an al-Nakba (The Meaning of the Catastrophe), was first used the term nakba in this context, and the catastrophe of his description was not an Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, but their flight in anticipation of an Arab invasion and destruction of Israel.

Accordingly, the term nakba, as used today, smacks of falsehood, inasmuch as it implies a tragedy inflicted by Israel. The "tragedy," of course, was self-inflicted.

As Israel’s UN ambassador Abba Eban was to put it some years later, “Once you determine the responsibility for that war, you have determined the responsibility for the refugee problem. Nothing in the history of our generation is clearer or less controversial than the initiative of Arab governments for the conflict out of which the refugee tragedy emerged.”

However, the Palestinians do not mourn today the ill-conceived choice of going to war to abort Israel. They mourn only that they failed.

...

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"

As usual you are full of crap. What the declassified documents actually said before the intervention of the Arab states to try to stop Jewish aggression was:

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'....
After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes".

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

Truth, hitler picked the wrong people to exterminate...

Truth, the Zionists picked the wrong people to colonize.

 

[montelatici]

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"
What "Nakba" commemorations really disclose.
May 16, 2016
Daniel Mandel

Yesterday, May 15, Palestinians and their supporters, as they have done increasingly over recent years, marked the nakba (Arabic for ‘catastrophe’) –– the day 68 years ago that Israel came into existence upon the expiry of British rule under a League of Nations mandate.

That juxtaposition of Israel and nakba isn’t accidental. We’re meant to understand that Israel’s creation caused the displacement of hundreds of thousand of Palestinian Arabs.

But the truth is different. A British document from the scene in early 1948, declassified in 2013, tells the story: “the Arabs have suffered ... overwhelming defeats ... Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands.”

In other words, Jew and Arabs, including irregular foreign militias from neighboring states, were already at war and Arabs were fleeing even before Israel came into sovereign existence on May 15, 1948.

Neighboring Arab armies and internal Palestinian militias responded to Israel’s declaration of independence with full-scale hostilities. In fact, the headline for the New York Times’ famous report on that day includes the words, ‘Tel Aviv Is Bombed, Egypt Orders Invasion.’ And, indeed, the head of Israel’s provisional government, David Ben Gurion, delivered his first radio address to the nation from an air-raid shelter.

Israel successfully resisted invasion and dismemberment –– the universally affirmed objective of the Arab belligerents –– and Palestinians came off worst of all from the whole venture. At war’s end, over 600,000 Palestinians were living as refugees under neighboring Arab regimes.

As Saudi columnist Abdulateef Al-Mulhim observed on previous anniversary, “It was a defeat but the Arabs chose to call it a catastrophe.” In fact, the Syrian, Qustantin Zuraiq, in his 1948 pamphlet, Ma’an al-Nakba (The Meaning of the Catastrophe), was first used the term nakba in this context, and the catastrophe of his description was not an Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, but their flight in anticipation of an Arab invasion and destruction of Israel.

Accordingly, the term nakba, as used today, smacks of falsehood, inasmuch as it implies a tragedy inflicted by Israel. The "tragedy," of course, was self-inflicted.

As Israel’s UN ambassador Abba Eban was to put it some years later, “Once you determine the responsibility for that war, you have determined the responsibility for the refugee problem. Nothing in the history of our generation is clearer or less controversial than the initiative of Arab governments for the conflict out of which the refugee tragedy emerged.”

However, the Palestinians do not mourn today the ill-conceived choice of going to war to abort Israel. They mourn only that they failed.

...

Perpetrator As Victim: No End To A Self-Inflicted "Tragedy"

As usual you are full of crap. What the declassified documents actually said before the intervention of the Arab states to try to stop Jewish aggression was:

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'....
After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes".

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

Truth, hitler picked the wrong people to exterminate...

What does Hitler have to do with Christians and Muslims of the Middle East?

Do you mean the Christians of the Islamist Middle East who have largely been exterminated by your Islamist heroes?

What Islamist heroes? I despise Islamists as much as Zionists.