Palestinian aggression continues: Israeli child BURNED ALIVE in Samaria

[toastman]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Here is the original map of the proposed national home of the Jews in 1920

Here is the revised map of he proposed national home of the Jews after the arab muslims demanded 78% in 1921

Do explain how a 1974 resolution had any validity in 1948 ?

Then why has Israel been recognised as a soveriegn state and been granted full UN membership

As in the above maps that are actually INTERNATIONAL LAW while the UN partition plan is not.


Now why did you only choose two of the many clauses of the 1974 resolution that had no real meaning as the palestinians have exercised their self determination since 1920

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

The key word is reaffirms. This means that these rights existed prior to the resolution in 1974.

At what time and under what circumstance did the Palestinians obtain these inalienable rights? Popular propaganda implies that the Palestinians never had rights.

The resolution also states:

Expressing its grave concern
that the Palestinian people has been prevented from enjoying its inalienable rights, in particular its right to self-determination.​

How were these rights denied to the Palestinians. I would say illegal external interference. It is a violation of international law to deny a people their inalienable rights. The fruits of illegal activity cannot be made legal.

You're a liar, no one ever says they don't have rights. We say that there was never a Palestinian state before 1988 and Palestinian had no sovereignty over the land now called Israel.
Word of advice Tinmore, you shouldn't keep bringing up points that you cannot back up.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

 

[toastman]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948, JUST like the Arabs did in 1988. I can provide links if you want. The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land. If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.
You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

Again, the UN had no business giving away the Arab's land any more than I can give away your house u arto a black family because I feel bad about slavery

You need to re read my post . owning land and having sovereignty over that land are two different things. The Palestinians could have declared independence over that land BEFORE Israel did. But instead, after Israel declared independence, here come the Palestinians claiming it was there country.

You're just another brainwashed moron Joe. There's no hope for you.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Here is the original map of the proposed national home of the Jews in 1920

Here is the revised map of he proposed national home of the Jews after the arab muslims demanded 78% in 1921

Do explain how a 1974 resolution had any validity in 1948 ?

Then why has Israel been recognised as a soveriegn state and been granted full UN membership

As in the above maps that are actually INTERNATIONAL LAW while the UN partition plan is not.


Now why did you only choose two of the many clauses of the 1974 resolution that had no real meaning as the palestinians have exercised their self determination since 1920

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

The key word is reaffirms. This means that these rights existed prior to the resolution in 1974.

At what time and under what circumstance did the Palestinians obtain these inalienable rights? Popular propaganda implies that the Palestinians never had rights.

The resolution also states:

Expressing its grave concern
that the Palestinian people has been prevented from enjoying its inalienable rights, in particular its right to self-determination.​

How were these rights denied to the Palestinians. I would say illegal external interference. It is a violation of international law to deny a people their inalienable rights. The fruits of illegal activity cannot be made legal.

You're a liar, no one ever says they don't have rights. We say that there was never a Palestinian state before 1988 and Palestinian had no sovereignty over the land now called Israel.
Word of advice Tinmore, you shouldn't keep bringing up points that you cannot back up.

Rights belong to people not governments or states.

One of those rights is territorial integrity. Nobody else has any right to your land.

 

[toastman]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

Still spreading the same lie I see? The Palestinians used the partition plan in 1988 to declare independence too, the SAME way Israel did so in 1948. We've been through this 100 times , yet you keep bringing up the same lies Tinmore.
Once again, you are wrong. 're wrong about everything.

You cannot make your own rules and history to further your agenda. 'Tinmore' pre requisites for declaring independence do not apply to real life.

 

[toastman]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

Oh, and again, acquiring land is a real estate issue. It has nothing to do with Israel declaring independence and practicing sovereignty, which the Palestinians did the same way

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

Still spreading the same lie I see? The Palestinians used the partition plan in 1988 to declare independence too, the SAME way Israel did so in 1948. We've been through this 100 times , yet you keep bringing up the same lies Tinmore.
Once again, you are wrong. 're wrong about everything.

You cannot make your own rules and history to further your agenda. 'Tinmore' pre requisites for declaring independence do not apply to real life.

So, Palestine's international borders are those proposed by resolution 181?

 

[toastman]

The Declaration contains an overt acceptance that "the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181, of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into two states [...] provides the legal basis for the right of the Palestinian Arab people to national sovereignty and independence." Our recognition of the authority of Resolution 181,

November 15 1988 The Declaration of Independence of the State of Palestine

from a Palestinian source none the less .

 

[toastman]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

Still spreading the same lie I see? The Palestinians used the partition plan in 1988 to declare independence too, the SAME way Israel did so in 1948. We've been through this 100 times , yet you keep bringing up the same lies Tinmore.
Once again, you are wrong. 're wrong about everything.

You cannot make your own rules and history to further your agenda. 'Tinmore' pre requisites for declaring independence do not apply to real life.

So, Palestine's international borders are those proposed by resolution 181?

Palestine has no international borders.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

Oh, and again, acquiring land is a real estate issue. It has nothing to do with Israel declaring independence and practicing sovereignty, which the Palestinians did the same way

You are incorrect.

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war...

The Avalon Project United Nations Security Council Resolution 242​

Again!

 

[P F Tinmore]

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

So yes, they did steal the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

Still spreading the same lie I see? The Palestinians used the partition plan in 1988 to declare independence too, the SAME way Israel did so in 1948. We've been through this 100 times , yet you keep bringing up the same lies Tinmore.
Once again, you are wrong. 're wrong about everything.

You cannot make your own rules and history to further your agenda. 'Tinmore' pre requisites for declaring independence do not apply to real life.

So, Palestine's international borders are those proposed by resolution 181?

Palestine has no international borders.

Look up international boundaries in the legend then find them on the map.

The solid lines are proposed borders.

Example:

1. The Armistice Demarcation Line shall follow the international boundary between the Lebanon and Palestine.

The Avalon Project Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement March 23 1949​

 

[Phoenall]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

So this meansthe palestinians have no legal claimn to the land and should all go back to their country of first alliegance. They can start by vacating Jerusalem and Bethlehem which they took by force in 1948

 

[Phoenall]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Here is the original map of the proposed national home of the Jews in 1920

Here is the revised map of he proposed national home of the Jews after the arab muslims demanded 78% in 1921

Do explain how a 1974 resolution had any validity in 1948 ?

Then why has Israel been recognised as a soveriegn state and been granted full UN membership

As in the above maps that are actually INTERNATIONAL LAW while the UN partition plan is not.


Now why did you only choose two of the many clauses of the 1974 resolution that had no real meaning as the palestinians have exercised their self determination since 1920

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

The key word is reaffirms. This means that these rights existed prior to the resolution in 1974.

At what time and under what circumstance did the Palestinians obtain these inalienable rights? Popular propaganda implies that the Palestinians never had rights.

The resolution also states:

Expressing its grave concern
that the Palestinian people has been prevented from enjoying its inalienable rights, in particular its right to self-determination.​

How were these rights denied to the Palestinians. I would say illegal external interference. It is a violation of international law to deny a people their inalienable rights. The fruits of illegal activity cannot be made legal.

You're a liar, no one ever says they don't have rights. We say that there was never a Palestinian state before 1988 and Palestinian had no sovereignty over the land now called Israel.
Word of advice Tinmore, you shouldn't keep bringing up points that you cannot back up.

Rights belong to people not governments or states.

One of those rights is territorial integrity. Nobody else has any right to your land.

And this makes the land Jewish as the land was stolen by force from them by the arab muslims.

 

[Phoenall]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

Still spreading the same lie I see? The Palestinians used the partition plan in 1988 to declare independence too, the SAME way Israel did so in 1948. We've been through this 100 times , yet you keep bringing up the same lies Tinmore.
Once again, you are wrong. 're wrong about everything.

You cannot make your own rules and history to further your agenda. 'Tinmore' pre requisites for declaring independence do not apply to real life.

So, Palestine's international borders are those proposed by resolution 181?

NO as they never claimed any of the land did they, they just claimed independence as people.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

So this meansthe palestinians have no legal claimn to the land and should all go back to their country of first alliegance. They can start by vacating Jerusalem and Bethlehem which they took by force in 1948

The Palestinians took Jerusalem and Bethlehem in 1948?

Link.

 

[Phoenall]

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

Still spreading the same lie I see? The Palestinians used the partition plan in 1988 to declare independence too, the SAME way Israel did so in 1948. We've been through this 100 times , yet you keep bringing up the same lies Tinmore.
Once again, you are wrong. 're wrong about everything.

You cannot make your own rules and history to further your agenda. 'Tinmore' pre requisites for declaring independence do not apply to real life.

So, Palestine's international borders are those proposed by resolution 181?

Palestine has no international borders.

Look up international boundaries in the legend then find them on the map.

The solid lines are proposed borders.

Example:

1. The Armistice Demarcation Line shall follow the international boundary between the Lebanon and Palestine.

The Avalon Project Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement March 23 1949​

Correct and in both cases they are the international borders of the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE, and as the treaty stated " hereinafter referred to as palestine" IT WAS NEVER A COUNTRY until 1988.

 

[toastman]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

Oh, and again, acquiring land is a real estate issue. It has nothing to do with Israel declaring independence and practicing sovereignty, which the Palestinians did the same way

You are incorrect.

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war...

The Avalon Project United Nations Security Council Resolution 242​

Again!

Not talking about capturing land during war genius. I'm talking about your comment about how Israel could not acquire land from resolution 181 which is a lie. You're wrong again, Tinmore.

 

[Phoenall]

Sure I did. But you refuse to accept the truth because you harbor an extreme amount of hatred. Nothing was stolen. Israel declared independence of land allotted to them in the partition plan in 1948...

And then as the British were moving out, Zionist terrorist groups went in and took Palestinian land that wasn't allocated to them in the Partition Plan. Here's what was initially allocated to Israel.



Here's what the UN says happened after...

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So yes, they did steal the land.

The land was not Arab controlled and they had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.

Not according to UN Resolution 3236!

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:
   1. (a) The right to self-determination without external interference;
   2. (b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

Whacha gotta say to that, scumbag?

If it was stolen, Israel would not have been recognized by anyone, specially the U.N who would be the first to not allow Israel to steal land.

It's not recognized by anyone. Not one country on the planet recognizes Israel's right to that land.

You are doing nothing but spreading Palestinian propaganda.

International law, is not propaganda.

Why don't you stop spreading Israeli propaganda, since IHL isn't on your side?

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

So this meansthe palestinians have no legal claimn to the land and should all go back to their country of first alliegance. They can start by vacating Jerusalem and Bethlehem which they took by force in 1948

The Palestinians took Jerusalem and Bethlehem in 1948?

Link.

Jordanian forces included many palestinians and they invaded the "CORPUS SEPERATUM" and annexed it as part of Jordan. Care to dispute these facts ?

 

[toastman]

Wow, you're dumber than I though. The RIGHT to sovereignty doesn't mean they have sovereignty. Do you not know how to read you demented moron?

And the land that Israel captured happened AFTER 5 Arab states attacked them from all sides. The land was not under Palestinian sovereignty either, it was land ALLOTTED to the Palestinians in the partition plan. If that land was stolen, then why did many countries, and the U.N of all organizations, recognize Israel with that land, and still do?

Territorial
changes Israel keeps area allotted to it byPartition Plan, captures 50% of area allotted to Arab state

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100% correct.

The partition plan was never implemented so Israel never acquired that land. It is illegal to acquire land through the threat or use of force so Israel can't acquire that land either.

Still spreading the same lie I see? The Palestinians used the partition plan in 1988 to declare independence too, the SAME way Israel did so in 1948. We've been through this 100 times , yet you keep bringing up the same lies Tinmore.
Once again, you are wrong. 're wrong about everything.

You cannot make your own rules and history to further your agenda. 'Tinmore' pre requisites for declaring independence do not apply to real life.

So, Palestine's international borders are those proposed by resolution 181?

Palestine has no international borders.

Look up international boundaries in the legend then find them on the map.

The solid lines are proposed borders.

Example:

1. The Armistice Demarcation Line shall follow the international boundary between the Lebanon and Palestine.

The Avalon Project Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement March 23 1949​

Wow, again with this map. This map is a PROPOSED MAP for the partition plan. Palestine does not have a border with Lebanon as there is no Palestinian land touching Lebanon. How the **** do you not know this ?

 

[JoeB131]

You could if I had no legal right to be in that house, and had stolen it from a black family who owned it 30 years ago.

Well, no, actually, I couldn't. at worst, I could maybe force you to pay them damages.

But here's the thing. If the European Jews had demanded land from Germany, they might have a valid case. The Germans did wrong them.

The Palestinians just had the bad luck of being under the boot of the British Empire.