Palestine Today

[P F Tinmore]

That is under the unsupportable assumption that the colonial settlers out of Europe actually had ancestors from Palestine.

Well, no. That is YOUR unsupportable assumption that the criteria for self-determination is based on some vague notion of ancestry which you apply only to the Jewish people.

Self determination applies to the people of the place not to the people from someplace else.

 

[Hollie]

That’s simply a lot of presuppositional bias on your part.

Of course you did not refute anything. Just a gripe.

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

You wrote:

“It had no intention of bringing the people up to speed for independence.”

Link?


You wrote:

“Its plan was to impose a foreign agenda on Palestine at the point of a gun.”

Link?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

As expected, you retreat to spam when your statements are unsupportable.

That is why you know so little.

I do find it comical that you are forced to retreat to your usual tactics of sidestepping and juvenile banter when you make unsupportable statements.

Your conspiracy theories are at odds with the facts you refuse to grasp.

You wrote:

“It had no intention of bringing the people up to speed for independence.”

Nonsense. “It”, (the Mandatory), clearly did have the intention to bring independence to two entities. It was the Arabs-Moslems who refused to participate. As much as you want to re-write history, it’s just a fact that the Arabs-Moslems chose intransigence and violence, consistent with Arab-Moslem history.


You wrote:

“Its plan was to impose a foreign agenda on Palestine at the point of a gun.”

Nonsense. It was in 1920 when the British civil administration assumed its role.

Of course, all of the above has been presented to you many times before. You just have a need to ignore the facts as a way to placate an emotional requirement to fit history into the alternate reality you live in.

 

[Hollie]

That is under the unsupportable assumption that the colonial settlers out of Europe actually had ancestors from Palestine.

Well, no. That is YOUR unsupportable assumption that the criteria for self-determination is based on some vague notion of ancestry which you apply only to the Jewish people.

Self determination applies to the people of the place not to the people from someplace else.

The Jewish people were “in the place” at the time they implemented self-determination.

There was no such place as your invented “country of Pal’istan” and the place formerly known as the Ottoman Empire was declared deceased about two decades prior to the State of Israel.

Shirley, you have a YouTube video you can cut and paste?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Of course you did not refute anything. Just a gripe.

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

You wrote:

“It had no intention of bringing the people up to speed for independence.”

Link?


You wrote:

“Its plan was to impose a foreign agenda on Palestine at the point of a gun.”

Link?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

As expected, you retreat to spam when your statements are unsupportable.

That is why you know so little.

I do find it comical that you are forced to retreat to your usual tactics of sidestepping and juvenile banter when you make unsupportable statements.

Your conspiracy theories are at odds with the facts you refuse to grasp.

You wrote:

“It had no intention of bringing the people up to speed for independence.”

Nonsense. “It”, (the Mandatory), clearly did have the intention to bring independence to two entities. It was the Arabs-Moslems who refused to participate. As much as you want to re-write history, it’s just a fact that the Arabs-Moslems chose intransigence and violence, consistent with Arab-Moslem history.


You wrote:

“Its plan was to impose a foreign agenda on Palestine at the point of a gun.”

Nonsense. It was in 1920 when the British civil administration assumed its role.

Of course, all of the above has been presented to you many times before. You just have a need to ignore the facts as a way to placate an emotional requirement to fit history into the alternate reality you live in.

Of course, all of the above has been presented to you many times before.

And it is still Israeli bullshit as it has always been.

 

[Hollie]

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

You wrote:

“It had no intention of bringing the people up to speed for independence.”

Link?


You wrote:

“Its plan was to impose a foreign agenda on Palestine at the point of a gun.”

Link?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

As expected, you retreat to spam when your statements are unsupportable.

That is why you know so little.

I do find it comical that you are forced to retreat to your usual tactics of sidestepping and juvenile banter when you make unsupportable statements.

Your conspiracy theories are at odds with the facts you refuse to grasp.

You wrote:

“It had no intention of bringing the people up to speed for independence.”

Nonsense. “It”, (the Mandatory), clearly did have the intention to bring independence to two entities. It was the Arabs-Moslems who refused to participate. As much as you want to re-write history, it’s just a fact that the Arabs-Moslems chose intransigence and violence, consistent with Arab-Moslem history.


You wrote:

“Its plan was to impose a foreign agenda on Palestine at the point of a gun.”

Nonsense. It was in 1920 when the British civil administration assumed its role.

Of course, all of the above has been presented to you many times before. You just have a need to ignore the facts as a way to placate an emotional requirement to fit history into the alternate reality you live in.

And it is still Israeli bullshit as it has always been.

You can’t rely on Press TV YouTube videos to address your lack of historical (not hysterical) facts.

Recognizing your detachment from reality is a first step you need to be willing to take.

 

[rylah]

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

You wrote:

“It had no intention of bringing the people up to speed for independence.”

Link?


You wrote:

“Its plan was to impose a foreign agenda on Palestine at the point of a gun.”

Link?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

As expected, you retreat to spam when your statements are unsupportable.

That is why you know so little.

I do find it comical that you are forced to retreat to your usual tactics of sidestepping and juvenile banter when you make unsupportable statements.

Your conspiracy theories are at odds with the facts you refuse to grasp.

You wrote:

“It had no intention of bringing the people up to speed for independence.”

Nonsense. “It”, (the Mandatory), clearly did have the intention to bring independence to two entities. It was the Arabs-Moslems who refused to participate. As much as you want to re-write history, it’s just a fact that the Arabs-Moslems chose intransigence and violence, consistent with Arab-Moslem history.


You wrote:

“Its plan was to impose a foreign agenda on Palestine at the point of a gun.”

Nonsense. It was in 1920 when the British civil administration assumed its role.

Of course, all of the above has been presented to you many times before. You just have a need to ignore the facts as a way to placate an emotional requirement to fit history into the alternate reality you live in.

And it is still Israeli bullshit as it has always been.

I've seen an 8 yo express better arguments.

 

[P F Tinmore]

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[rylah]

#Ahed Tamimi

Erdoğan invites a girl wearing army uniform to scene and tells her:

"she has the flag in her pocket, inshallah she will be covered with the flag when becomes a martyr, she is ready for anything, isn't she?"

 

[Hollie]

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Support coming in from virtually every country in the world.

Help free my daughter

The sooner she is out, the sooner you and you fellow co-religionists can exploit her for cheap propaganda purposes.

 

[Shusha]

Self determination applies to the people of the place not to the people from someplace else.

But that was the whole point of the Balfour Declaration and the Mandate for Palestine -- acknowledging that the Jewish people ARE the people of the place. Acknowledging that if you forcibly remove people from a place that doesn't stop them from being people of the place.

 

[Shusha]

The problem is that terms like "people of the place" have no objective meaning. It can mean whatever you want it to mean. And what you want it to mean is different when speaking of the Jewish people vs. speaking of the Arab peoples.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The problem is that terms like "people of the place" have no objective meaning. It can mean whatever you want it to mean. And what you want it to mean is different when speaking of the Jewish people vs. speaking of the Arab peoples.

The Palestinians were the legal citizens by international and domestic law. The people of the place.

 

[rylah]

That is under the unsupportable assumption that the colonial settlers out of Europe actually had ancestors from Palestine.

Well, no. That is YOUR unsupportable assumption that the criteria for self-determination is based on some vague notion of ancestry which you apply only to the Jewish people.

Self determination applies to the people of the place not to the people from someplace else.

Agreed, why should it apply to Egyptian soldiers brought by Ali Pasha?
Or Bedouins brought by Faisal?

 

[Shusha]

The Palestinians were the legal citizens by international and domestic law. The people of the place.

Israelis, being legal citizens by international and domestic law, ARE the people of the place.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Palestinians were the legal citizens by international and domestic law. The people of the place.

Israelis, being legal citizens by international and domestic law, ARE the people of the place.

Link?

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[rylah]

The Palestinians were the legal citizens by international and domestic law. The people of the place.

Israelis, being legal citizens by international and domestic law, ARE the people of the place.

Link?

Do You have anyone else representing the Jews of Palestine on a state level?

 

[rylah]

For the subsidized health care we pay each 2 month. and it's not subsidized by the US.
We don't receive FREE 4 year education.

Otherwise where's mine?! And why do most Israelis work to pay for their studies and get in debt?

#BDS-HOLES LIES

Q. So beyond that, which other govt. represents the Jews of Palestine?

 

[Hollie]

Could contrast that with the dollar value the US has contributed the UNRWA welfare fraud?

 

[Hollie]

Maybe this will help.

PA claims it got no US aid in 2016. In fact, State Dept. gave Palestinians $357 million. And that’s not all


How much welfare fraud money is the Great Satan obligated to shower Islamic terrorists with?