orogenicman
Darwin was a pastafarian
- Jul 24, 2013
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BGee, you call scientists "clerics", a creationist tactic. How original. You know, I don't see you complaining that only brain surgeons understand the intricacies of brain surgery. But I guess in your small mind, they are clerics too, eh?
Brain surgeons don't make the tools they use, or even understand the methods of making them.
Are you sure about that? Because I know a couple of brain surgeons who would disagree with that claim.
IanC said:Climate scientists have been under a constant barrage of criticism over their mistaken use of statistical methods unfit for the purpose.
And yet I have seen only ONE published paper that makes this claim, written years ago by creationist McIntyre, a paper that was shown to make not one bit of difference in the result about which he was complaining.
when was the last time a brain surgeon made his own scalpels, ground the lenses for his eyewear, made his own MRI machine, developed and produced his own drugs, etc?
Brain surgeons rarely use scapels these days, Ian. This isn't the 19th century, dude. And yes, they design many of their tools these days. Why? Because they are the only ones with the necessary knowledge to know what they friggin need.
Ian said:O - you seem very unknowledgeable about statistical criticisms. why was Gergis withdrawn? Steig, Kaufmann, Marcott, etc, etc. but especially Mann. do you honestly believe what you said? or are you just repeating someone else's talking point that has no comparison to reality? you need to read more than Real Climate and SkepticalScience.
I don't tend to read those web sites. In case you weren't aware, there are scientific periodicals that contain the actual scientific papers. But I do keep up with current events. So a couple of papers get revised. So what? Name a profession where this never occurs. Better yet. Name one that got revised due to the peer reviewed work of one of your denier buddies.
Okay. Which periodicals or journals do you subscribe to? It should be easy enough to verify your access to sequestered information.
Erm, Ian. Have you ever heard of libraries? You should visit one sometime.