I was being ridiculous. The cop should be ashamed. He was a fraud his whole career and almost got by without incident.
Reminds me of when George kastanza knocked women and children over when he thought there was a fire.
Our President calls Parkland Deputy a coward
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Reminds me of when George kastanza knocked women and children over when he thought there was a fire.
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Sad to see a veteran make excuses for cowards. Most veterans understand duty. And many understand that an AR-15 is not a machine gun or even an assault rifle. You were...what? Coast Guard reserve maybe?
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The more guns solution will only arm teachers no more willing to confront an AR 15 single handedly than those deputies
C_Clayton_Jones
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The more guns ‘solution’ isn’t a solution.
No one wants to confront a shooter but sometimes he confronts you. Wish you had a gun if he does
evenflow1969
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My job was simply to the create dissension and paranoia in the ranks of the enemy. I am not defending a coward. WHat he did may have been SOP for the situation for all I know. I was not trained to defend lives. I was trained to do the opposite. If the CO of this outift had given the proper tool for the job likely the deuty would have been less hesitant. Considering how many of these have already happened, I think it is a failure from higher ups. The police cheifs should be aware of the structure of the schools and the types of weapons effective at these ranges and should have had rifles in the cruisers for the deputies to go to. I would have went in so **** you! Had I been in command my boys would have had what they needed.for the situation.
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He's not a HUGE coward, but the responding Coward County sheriffs deputies who stood outside while kids were being slaughtered are the true cowards.
And I hope someone takes all 3 of them out, soon.
And I hope someone takes all 3 of them out, soon.
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Bullshit. The man's job was the same no matter what. Wouldn't have mattered if he had been unarmed if he took the job of protecting children and made no attempt to do so, he is in fact guilty of criminal negligence and should expect to face wrongful death suits that impoverish him for the rest of his miserable life.
America wasn't built by people who quit just because they are out numbered or out gunned. And in point of fact a handgun can be about as effective as a simi-auto rifle at the close ranges encountered inside a building and is less likely to cause collateral damage passing through walls.
And (**** you too) I have no interest in what you think you might do. If you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk.
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Three deputies from the Broward County Sheriff's Office remained outside the freshman building of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High in Parkland, Florida, during one of the nation's deadliest school shootings, two law enforcement sources confirmed to NBC News Saturday.
While the reason they remained outside is currently unclear, experts say it's highly unusual for a police officer to stay on the sidelines of an active shooting scene and not try to neutralize the threat.
David Hogg, a Stoneman Douglas senior and survivor of the shooting, said he's met Peterson and he thinks the fact that the officer didn't take action, even though he was armed, illustrates that simply having a gun won't stop a shooting.
"He, just like every other officer out there, at heart, is a good person," Hogg said. "Who wants to go down the barrel of an AR-15, even with a Glock? And I know that's what these police officers are supposed to do, but they're people too."
Douglas High teacher Felicia Burgin, who was inside the building while the shooting occurred, said she believes Peterson is being used as a "scapegoat."
"People are angry right now. They're angry, they're hurting and now all their hurt is being directed in, to me, the wrong direction," she said. "You want to be angry? Be angry at the gunman who killed all these people. Be angry at the gun laws that allow these guns to be purchased by 18 year olds."
Three Broward County deputies didn't enter Douglas High, sources say
While the reason they remained outside is currently unclear, experts say it's highly unusual for a police officer to stay on the sidelines of an active shooting scene and not try to neutralize the threat.
David Hogg, a Stoneman Douglas senior and survivor of the shooting, said he's met Peterson and he thinks the fact that the officer didn't take action, even though he was armed, illustrates that simply having a gun won't stop a shooting.
"He, just like every other officer out there, at heart, is a good person," Hogg said. "Who wants to go down the barrel of an AR-15, even with a Glock? And I know that's what these police officers are supposed to do, but they're people too."
Douglas High teacher Felicia Burgin, who was inside the building while the shooting occurred, said she believes Peterson is being used as a "scapegoat."
"People are angry right now. They're angry, they're hurting and now all their hurt is being directed in, to me, the wrong direction," she said. "You want to be angry? Be angry at the gunman who killed all these people. Be angry at the gun laws that allow these guns to be purchased by 18 year olds."
Three Broward County deputies didn't enter Douglas High, sources say
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Video delays misled cops at Stoneman Douglas shooting
“They are monitoring the subject right now. He went from the third floor to the second floor, the third to the second floor … They’re monitoring him on camera,” an officer said on radio transmissions recorded by Broadcastify, an audio streaming website, at 2:54 p.m. In fact, Cruz was already long gone — he had escaped the school’s freshman building 26 minutes earlier and was sitting at a McDonald’s a mile away, a timeline released by the Broward Sheriff’s Office shows.
The video images were “delayed 20 minutes and nobody told us that,” said Coral Springs Police Chief Tony Pustizzi.
Pustizzi said the video delay made a chaotic situation more confusing, but he does not believe it slowed efforts to rescue injured students. “We got in so fast, we’re pulling them out. It made it harder to identify where the guy was.”
Police radio transmissions reviewed by the Sun Sentinel reveal more details about the confusion at the scene as officers tried to determine what was happening and how best to respond to the worst school shooting since the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in 2012.
They show:
-- At the same time the shooter escaped, police were saying they were entering a building, though it’s unclear from radio transmissions whether it was the right building or a neighboring one.
-- Police initially could not get to the security cameras and couldn’t immediately find someone to help them.
-- Police communication was hampered by outmoded radios that left some transmissions inaudible.
The school is in Parkland, which is protected by the sheriff’s office. Also, an armed sheriff’s deputy — called a school resource officer — is assigned to the school.
At one point, police were looking for that officer, Scot Peterson, because he “would be the one to have access to where the cameras are,” according to the police radio broadcast.
Peterson was on the 45-acre campus during the attack but not in the targeted building, Schools Superintendent Robert Runcie previously told the Sun Sentinel.
“We need somebody with the camera systems ASAP,” an officer stated at 2:43 p.m., about 15 minutes after the shooting stopped, according to the sheriff’s timeline. “Where’s the principal? Who’s with the principal? And we need to start making a plan here.”
Video delays misled cops at Stoneman Douglas shooting
“They are monitoring the subject right now. He went from the third floor to the second floor, the third to the second floor … They’re monitoring him on camera,” an officer said on radio transmissions recorded by Broadcastify, an audio streaming website, at 2:54 p.m. In fact, Cruz was already long gone — he had escaped the school’s freshman building 26 minutes earlier and was sitting at a McDonald’s a mile away, a timeline released by the Broward Sheriff’s Office shows.
The video images were “delayed 20 minutes and nobody told us that,” said Coral Springs Police Chief Tony Pustizzi.
Pustizzi said the video delay made a chaotic situation more confusing, but he does not believe it slowed efforts to rescue injured students. “We got in so fast, we’re pulling them out. It made it harder to identify where the guy was.”
Police radio transmissions reviewed by the Sun Sentinel reveal more details about the confusion at the scene as officers tried to determine what was happening and how best to respond to the worst school shooting since the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in 2012.
They show:
-- At the same time the shooter escaped, police were saying they were entering a building, though it’s unclear from radio transmissions whether it was the right building or a neighboring one.
-- Police initially could not get to the security cameras and couldn’t immediately find someone to help them.
-- Police communication was hampered by outmoded radios that left some transmissions inaudible.
The school is in Parkland, which is protected by the sheriff’s office. Also, an armed sheriff’s deputy — called a school resource officer — is assigned to the school.
At one point, police were looking for that officer, Scot Peterson, because he “would be the one to have access to where the cameras are,” according to the police radio broadcast.
Peterson was on the 45-acre campus during the attack but not in the targeted building, Schools Superintendent Robert Runcie previously told the Sun Sentinel.
“We need somebody with the camera systems ASAP,” an officer stated at 2:43 p.m., about 15 minutes after the shooting stopped, according to the sheriff’s timeline. “Where’s the principal? Who’s with the principal? And we need to start making a plan here.”
Video delays misled cops at Stoneman Douglas shooting
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Jewed Law?
Well , let's see ' a **** shoots up a school of kikes.
"Sheriff Israel" and his select group of flunkies do nothing ; the previously warned (((feds))) do nothing.
(((Dave Hog))) forms a jewish drama club to take guns from White People.
Again , with jews ; Whites lose.
The ancient Greeks dismissed kikery for the same reasons.
Go ahead semites ; censor THIS.
Doc1
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He was one and that's why he resigned. You NEVER know how you will react until you're in it. At least he recognized that Law Enforcement wasn't for him. A little late.
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Jewed Law?
Well , let's see ' a **** shoots up a school of kikes.
"Sheriff Israel" and his select group of flunkies do nothing ; the previously warned (((feds))) do nothing.
(((Dave Hog))) forms a jewish drama club to take guns from White People.
Again , with jews ; Whites lose.
The ancient Greeks dismissed kikery for the same reasons.
Go ahead semites ; censor THIS.
She is right...you are an asshole
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Maybe he realized he was being made into a scapegoat
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Jewed Law?
Well , let's see ' a **** shoots up a school of kikes.
"Sheriff Israel" and his select group of flunkies do nothing ; the previously warned (((feds))) do nothing.
(((Dave Hog))) forms a jewish drama club to take guns from White People.
Again , with jews ; Whites lose.
The ancient Greeks dismissed kikery for the same reasons.
Go ahead semites ; censor THIS.
She is right...you are an asshole
No , you're a cuckhold. The jew has pushed the envelope long enough. You're an enabler.
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He is a coward. To put it bluntly. All of those deputies who chose to wait outside are. What would you have done?
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This is a residual effect left over from the Obama years. The police were demonized and many do not want that stigma put on them. This is another prime effect of far left policies that hurt the nation. This is a blue area controlled by the democrats.
Remember now the far left does not want guns in the school, they do not want guns for cops, they demonize them every chance they get. Yet they now want the cops to be in charge of such things.
Things will not change until people stop being afraid of being demonized by the far left and their media sources.
Also there is the question of jurisdiction during such events. In who has the command in such situations. This is complete break down of communication as well. It seems that there is still a disconnect with law enforcement in communications with each other, including the FBI.
On the flip side, the Obama era policies for the FBI seems to still be in place and both the FBI and local law enforcement dropped the ball on this kid, mainly to keep from racially profiling. Remember the far left motto is to react after the fact, not be pro active.
Remember now the far left does not want guns in the school, they do not want guns for cops, they demonize them every chance they get. Yet they now want the cops to be in charge of such things.
Things will not change until people stop being afraid of being demonized by the far left and their media sources.
Also there is the question of jurisdiction during such events. In who has the command in such situations. This is complete break down of communication as well. It seems that there is still a disconnect with law enforcement in communications with each other, including the FBI.
On the flip side, the Obama era policies for the FBI seems to still be in place and both the FBI and local law enforcement dropped the ball on this kid, mainly to keep from racially profiling. Remember the far left motto is to react after the fact, not be pro active.
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AND???? You're saying he did not act cowardly?
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