Our country is facing a Free Speech crisis.

[Luckyone]

YoYou need to use that microscope for your brain.
LOL

you must be looking in the mirror

 

[Luckyone]

FDR incarcerated American citizens and legal aliens for the crime of being Japanese and forced them to sell property to democrat doners at cut rate prices after Pearl Harbor. A former KKK member appointed to the Supreme Court by FDR, Justice Black, wrote the majority opinion exonerating FDR. Harry Truman created HUAC (House Unamerican Activities Committee) that only had subpoena power and Hollywood managed to blame a single freaking relatively unknown senator when it fired it's own writers and actors when they thought they would lose money. The same thing is going on today when democrats accuse a republican president for Hollywood firing it's own pop culture comedians like Kimmel who were doing nothing but losing money.... And the beat goes on.

So, you seem to be criticizing them for it. Why aren't you criticizing Trump for it now? If it was wrong then, why not now?

 

[sparky]

all you folks are speaking clearly here

~S~

 

[iamwhatiseem]

you must be looking in the mirror

Oh that is SO brilliant!!!


Said no one ever

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[Seymour Flops]

His only recent slip was due mostly to re-runs being on during the 2nd quarter. People want fresh news to get pissed about.

Well, I have to admit that your last post made me think. People really do like to tune into, the outrage p*** of people like Jimmy Kimmel.

Both sides do it. In fact, the big disadvantage that your site has right now is that the best performer of outrage form happens to be on our side and actually our president.

I remember them. CNN had Crossfire. PBS had Firing Line. I don't think we'll ever see the likes again.

No doubt you are right, which is to our detriment.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Why aren't you criticizing Trump for it now? If it was wrong then, why not now?

Give the old guy a break... look at his poor hands fer ***** sake.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Here is Trump just yesterday saying that 97% of the media is against him and since they all need licenses to stay open, their licenses should be revoked. In addition, it is not just the media he is trying to shut down. It is every company, institution and Federal departments that oppose him.

What is even worse is that a large number of all Republicans support him on this issue!



This all suggests that Freedom of Speech is no longer important and that being loyal to one man (Trump - no matter what he does), is now a requirement to stay in business, or even for an individual person to stay out of harm's way, simply by voicing his mind and his concerns.

I disagree.

The moment government comes for boards like this one, for unapproved speech, then we have a free speech crisis.

 

[whitehall]

So, you seem to be criticizing them for it. Why aren't you criticizing Trump for it now? If it was wrong then, why not now?

For it now? How does that compute?

 

[OODA_Loop]

I disagree.

The moment government comes for boards like this one, for unapproved speech, then we have a free speech crisis.

Is this happening ?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Is this happening ?

Exactly.

(It isn't.)

 

[Seymour Flops]

I disagree with you, therefore no reason for to rant on Biden. I was not happy with him, but that was no reason to rant

You thought our borders were normal under Biden/Harris?

He has been the driving force behind what happened to those shut down

I'd say that is true for Jimmy Kimmel. But it was long overdue. Licensed networks cannot do just whatever they feel like and claim that is in the public interest. CNN can have All Bash Trump, All the Time, if that is their business model. But with more than half the voters choosing Trump after nine years of Democrat attacks, more attacks by broadcasters are clearly not in the public interest.

Who else was shut down with Trump as the driving force?

 

[Luckyone]

Oh that is SO brilliant!!!


Said no one ever

Certainly more than your response, which is the same identical thing that every Trump supporter says

You thought our borders were normal under Biden/Harris?

I'd say that is true for Jimmy Kimmel. But it was long overdue. Licensed networks cannot do just whatever they feel like and claim that is in the public interest. CNN can have All Bash Trump, All the Time, if that is their business model. But with more than half the voters choosing Trump after nine years of Democrat attacks, more attacks by broadcasters are clearly not in the public interest.

Who else was shut down with Trump as the driving force?

no, I did not think that and I di believe Biden was wrong, but it was a humane thing to do. There was no personal reason for him to benefit from it . It was a mistake was attempting to fix.

Stenen Colbert, the education department, Medicaid recipients, thousands of people that have lost their jobs through no fault of their own, etc.,

 

[blackhawk]

No it’s not.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Certainly more than your response, which is the same identical thing that every Trump supporter says

no, I did not think that and I di believe Biden was wrong, but it was a humane thing to do. There was no personal reason for him to benefit from it . It was a mistake was attempting to fix.

Humane to let the cartels traffick children across the border and then send the children to "sponsors" and forget about them, leaving the Trump administration to try and find them?

Question: When an unaccompanied minor crossed the border, how did the Biden Administration ensure that they had not been kidnapped from their parents? Answer with a link, please?

Stenen Colbert,

He was on a licensed network. Constantly mocking one elected official is not in the public interest.

Satirize all of them? Fine. Obsess over one? Not on the public's dime.

the education department,

Part of the executive branch, over which Trump holds sole authority.

Medicaid recipients,

Illegal Aliens should not be getting Medicaid.

thousands of people that have lost their jobs through no fault of their own,

Happens all the time, no matter who is in power. Would need more specificity to answer.

etc.,

etc.

 

[Dorian Mode]

I disagree.

The moment government comes for boards like this one, for unapproved speech, then we have a free speech crisis.

This forum is one of the few where conservative voices aren't censored or outright banned. It's hard to take leftists seriously when they have been fighting so hard to get conservative voices silenced for almost a decade. Think about why Musk felt compelled to buy Twitter, it was always banning conservatives and rarely leftists. Think about how Google and Youtube manipulate their algorithms to promote leftist narratives and bury conservatives. And they even got the POTUS censored/banned from all these tech sites. Almost 10 years of social media and the MSM promoting anything the left says and ignoring or punishing any conservative voice. The only champion of the conservative voice is FOX News and leftists have been clamoring for ten years to get it shut down. And it is especially hard to take seriously any leftists complaining about Free Speech right after one of their own just silenced Charlie Kirk.

 

[22lcidw]

One question for you based on your response:

"WHO decides whether it is in the public interest or not? Trump?"

I personally believe that Steven Colbert and more so, Jon Stewart serve the public interest well. They bring up the issues that are facing the country and do it in a humorous way that drives it deeper and more understandable for the public.

Trump already got rid of Colbert and is targeting Stewart.

In addition, and forgetting comedians and the media, he already got rid of the Department of Education and USAID, both of which served the public interest. So where does that leave your argument?

Colbert and Stewart of Communist shills. Promised the good life for selling out the peasants.

 

[Mac1958]

Trump wants to be Putin which is sorta odd as Trump was a draft dodger and a convicted felon. Trump is a weak man whose money gave and gives him his courage. Sad human. His followers though are weak too but see in him a power they don't have. Many onboard here demonstrate that fact.

It's difficult to tell why he would just come out and say this stuff.

On one hand, it may be that his dictatorial instincts are seeping out and he has no one around him who will stop that from happening. These particular people who are around him (like Stephen Miller, who really should be cast as a fascist in some movie) may encourage it, for all we know.

On the other, it may just be that he has no practical understanding of the Constitution, American history or the directives of the Founders. His views and perceptions are essentially those of a spoiled eight year old boy. He is simply going through life desperately trying to fill a hole that will never be filled.

If I had to guess, I'd guess it was the latter.

 

[Luckyone]

Colbert and Stewart of Communist shills. Promised the good life for selling out the peasants.

You did not answer the question!

 

[Luckyone]

There is no way to know if a child was abducted from

Humane to let the cartels traffick children across the border and then send the children to "sponsors" and forget about them, leaving the Trump administration to try and find them?

Question: When an unaccompanied minor crossed the border, how did the Biden Administration ensure that they had not been kidnapped from their parents? Answer with a link, please?

He was on a licensed network. Constantly mocking one elected official is not in the public interest.

Satirize all of them? Fine. Obsess over one? Not on the public's dime.


Part of the executive branch, over which Trump holds sole authority.

Illegal Aliens should not be getting Medicaid.

Happens all the time, no matter who is in power. Would need more specificity to answer.

etc.

There was no way that anyone can know if a child was abducted from their parents but how does that change the fact that they are here and seeing asylum?

As far as your other answers, they are all bullshit that do not address the Free Speech issue. In addition, it may be Trump's right to do what he did but it hurt a lot of people and helped no one.