Origin of life Thread: Chemistry of seabed's hot vents could explain emergence of life

This is a supporting article to the OP:

The origin of life: Labyrinths as crucibles of life

The origin of life Labyrinths as crucibles of life -- ScienceDaily

Date:
January 27, 2015
Source:
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
Summary:
Water-filled micropores in hot rock may have acted as the nurseries in which life on Earth began. A team has now shown that temperature gradients in pore systems promote the cyclical replication and emergence of nucleic acids.

Very interesting experiment.

More at the link.
 
This is a supporting article to the OP:

The origin of life: Labyrinths as crucibles of life

The origin of life Labyrinths as crucibles of life -- ScienceDaily

Date:
January 27, 2015
Source:
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
Summary:
Water-filled micropores in hot rock may have acted as the nurseries in which life on Earth began. A team has now shown that temperature gradients in pore systems promote the cyclical replication and emergence of nucleic acids.

Very interesting experiment.

More at the link.
Prove to me life came magically from non life.
 
Now, Frankie Boy, go post about something that you 'know ' something about, like your hollow moon. LOL

Like every other time you've done it, insulting me does not correct your fundamental misunderstanding of how the world functions.

How badly must it suck that there's far more real scientific evidence that the Moon is an artificial sphere than there is for manmade global climate warming change disruption or whatever you're calling it today

I always had a sneaking suspicion that the moon was actually the Death Star. thanks for the confirmation :)
 
Now, Frankie Boy, go post about something that you 'know ' something about, like your hollow moon. LOL

Like every other time you've done it, insulting me does not correct your fundamental misunderstanding of how the world functions.

How badly must it suck that there's far more real scientific evidence that the Moon is an artificial sphere than there is for manmade global climate warming change disruption or whatever you're calling it today

I always had a sneaking suspicion that the moon was actually the Death Star. thanks for the confirmation :)

No that's Iapetus
 
This is a supporting article to the OP:

The origin of life: Labyrinths as crucibles of life

The origin of life Labyrinths as crucibles of life -- ScienceDaily

Date:
January 27, 2015
Source:
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
Summary:
Water-filled micropores in hot rock may have acted as the nurseries in which life on Earth began. A team has now shown that temperature gradients in pore systems promote the cyclical replication and emergence of nucleic acids.

Very interesting experiment.

More at the link.

Yes.

Water filled micropores in hot rocks

of course
 
This is a supporting article to the OP:

The origin of life: Labyrinths as crucibles of life

The origin of life Labyrinths as crucibles of life -- ScienceDaily

Date:
January 27, 2015
Source:
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
Summary:
Water-filled micropores in hot rock may have acted as the nurseries in which life on Earth began. A team has now shown that temperature gradients in pore systems promote the cyclical replication and emergence of nucleic acids.

Very interesting experiment.

More at the link.

Yes.

Water filled micropores in hot rocks

of course
Yes, of course, sorry if actual science scares you.
 
This is a supporting article to the OP:

The origin of life: Labyrinths as crucibles of life

The origin of life Labyrinths as crucibles of life -- ScienceDaily

Date:
January 27, 2015
Source:
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
Summary:
Water-filled micropores in hot rock may have acted as the nurseries in which life on Earth began. A team has now shown that temperature gradients in pore systems promote the cyclical replication and emergence of nucleic acids.

Very interesting experiment.

More at the link.

Yes.

Water filled micropores in hot rocks

of course
Yes, of course, sorry if actual science scares you.

So the molecules were trapped like rats in the water filled micropores and that's how 2000 proteins magically assembled themselves (remember, using only left handed amino acids) to form the first cell.
 
This is a supporting article to the OP:

The origin of life: Labyrinths as crucibles of life

The origin of life Labyrinths as crucibles of life -- ScienceDaily

Date:
January 27, 2015
Source:
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
Summary:
Water-filled micropores in hot rock may have acted as the nurseries in which life on Earth began. A team has now shown that temperature gradients in pore systems promote the cyclical replication and emergence of nucleic acids.

Very interesting experiment.

More at the link.

Yes.

Water filled micropores in hot rocks

of course
Yes, of course, sorry if actual science scares you.

So the molecules were trapped like rats in the water filled micropores and that's how 2000 proteins magically assembled themselves (remember, using only left handed amino acids) to form the first cell.
Who knows? It's plausible, we've seen organic compounds form naturally, and the conditions within the micro pores give a plausibility.
 
This is a supporting article to the OP:

The origin of life: Labyrinths as crucibles of life

The origin of life Labyrinths as crucibles of life -- ScienceDaily

Date:
January 27, 2015
Source:
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
Summary:
Water-filled micropores in hot rock may have acted as the nurseries in which life on Earth began. A team has now shown that temperature gradients in pore systems promote the cyclical replication and emergence of nucleic acids.

Very interesting experiment.

More at the link.

Yes.

Water filled micropores in hot rocks

of course
Yes, of course, sorry if actual science scares you.

So the molecules were trapped like rats in the water filled micropores and that's how 2000 proteins magically assembled themselves (remember, using only left handed amino acids) to form the first cell.
Who knows? It's plausible, we've seen organic compounds form naturally, and the conditions within the micro pores give a plausibility.
Plausible as in we could recreate the same situation and observe it?
 
This is a supporting article to the OP:

The origin of life: Labyrinths as crucibles of life

The origin of life Labyrinths as crucibles of life -- ScienceDaily

Very interesting experiment.

More at the link.

Yes.

Water filled micropores in hot rocks

of course
Yes, of course, sorry if actual science scares you.

So the molecules were trapped like rats in the water filled micropores and that's how 2000 proteins magically assembled themselves (remember, using only left handed amino acids) to form the first cell.
Who knows? It's plausible, we've seen organic compounds form naturally, and the conditions within the micro pores give a plausibility.
Plausible as in we could recreate the same situation and observe it?
Of course not, the odds of such an event happening are extraordinary, which is why we only have life on this planet within our solar system, well, we don't know about europa/etc yet, but hopefully soon, none the less, we've formed the compounds, however, expecting a cell to form based on the limited experiments done is ridiculous.
 
Yes.

Water filled micropores in hot rocks

of course
Yes, of course, sorry if actual science scares you.

So the molecules were trapped like rats in the water filled micropores and that's how 2000 proteins magically assembled themselves (remember, using only left handed amino acids) to form the first cell.
Who knows? It's plausible, we've seen organic compounds form naturally, and the conditions within the micro pores give a plausibility.
Plausible as in we could recreate the same situation and observe it?
Of course not, the odds of such an event happening are extraordinary, which is why we only have life on this planet within our solar system, well, we don't know about europa/etc yet, but hopefully soon, none the less, we've formed the compounds, however, expecting a cell to form based on the limited experiments done is ridiculous.
Some might say the odds make it impossible...
 
Yes, of course, sorry if actual science scares you.

So the molecules were trapped like rats in the water filled micropores and that's how 2000 proteins magically assembled themselves (remember, using only left handed amino acids) to form the first cell.
Who knows? It's plausible, we've seen organic compounds form naturally, and the conditions within the micro pores give a plausibility.
Plausible as in we could recreate the same situation and observe it?
Of course not, the odds of such an event happening are extraordinary, which is why we only have life on this planet within our solar system, well, we don't know about europa/etc yet, but hopefully soon, none the less, we've formed the compounds, however, expecting a cell to form based on the limited experiments done is ridiculous.
Some might say the odds make it impossible...
Yes, but the problem with your assessment is, it's a very plausible way to explain the formation of life, supported by observations and our understanding of the world, it may be extremely implausible, but given billions of years, who knows? Then again, we're lucky this planet has life at all ,let alone that we evolved.
 
This is a supporting article to the OP:

The origin of life: Labyrinths as crucibles of life

The origin of life Labyrinths as crucibles of life -- ScienceDaily

Date:
January 27, 2015
Source:
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
Summary:
Water-filled micropores in hot rock may have acted as the nurseries in which life on Earth began. A team has now shown that temperature gradients in pore systems promote the cyclical replication and emergence of nucleic acids.

Very interesting experiment.

More at the link.

Yes.

Water filled micropores in hot rocks

of course
Yes, of course, sorry if actual science scares you.

So the molecules were trapped like rats in the water filled micropores and that's how 2000 proteins magically assembled themselves (remember, using only left handed amino acids) to form the first cell.
Who knows? It's plausible, we've seen organic compounds form naturally, and the conditions within the micro pores give a plausibility.


perhaps at one time there were right handed ones who then became obsoleted through selection, but who knows? maybe the handrail was on the left side and only the left handed aminos could make it up the stairs? Frank does present an interesting question though
 
So the molecules were trapped like rats in the water filled micropores and that's how 2000 proteins magically assembled themselves (remember, using only left handed amino acids) to form the first cell.
Who knows? It's plausible, we've seen organic compounds form naturally, and the conditions within the micro pores give a plausibility.
Plausible as in we could recreate the same situation and observe it?
Of course not, the odds of such an event happening are extraordinary, which is why we only have life on this planet within our solar system, well, we don't know about europa/etc yet, but hopefully soon, none the less, we've formed the compounds, however, expecting a cell to form based on the limited experiments done is ridiculous.
Some might say the odds make it impossible...
Yes, but the problem with your assessment is, it's a very plausible way to explain the formation of life, supported by observations and our understanding of the world, it may be extremely implausible, but given billions of years, who knows? Then again, we're lucky this planet has life at all ,let alone that we evolved.
It's not any more plausible than any other way given the fact that it has never happened. It's always given billions of years to make it seem rational even though it is not. If it followed some chemical process then it would be able to be recreated...
 
Who knows? It's plausible, we've seen organic compounds form naturally, and the conditions within the micro pores give a plausibility.
Plausible as in we could recreate the same situation and observe it?
Of course not, the odds of such an event happening are extraordinary, which is why we only have life on this planet within our solar system, well, we don't know about europa/etc yet, but hopefully soon, none the less, we've formed the compounds, however, expecting a cell to form based on the limited experiments done is ridiculous.
Some might say the odds make it impossible...
Yes, but the problem with your assessment is, it's a very plausible way to explain the formation of life, supported by observations and our understanding of the world, it may be extremely implausible, but given billions of years, who knows? Then again, we're lucky this planet has life at all ,let alone that we evolved.
It's not any more plausible than any other way given the fact that it has never happened. It's always given billions of years to make it seem rational even though it is not. If it followed some chemical process then it would be able to be recreated...
You fail to understand that just because something is extremely implausible doesn't mean it can't happen, especially if what we know supports it. (E.G. the big bang, which is a fact, although EXTREMELY implausible)
 
Plausible as in we could recreate the same situation and observe it?
Of course not, the odds of such an event happening are extraordinary, which is why we only have life on this planet within our solar system, well, we don't know about europa/etc yet, but hopefully soon, none the less, we've formed the compounds, however, expecting a cell to form based on the limited experiments done is ridiculous.
Some might say the odds make it impossible...
Yes, but the problem with your assessment is, it's a very plausible way to explain the formation of life, supported by observations and our understanding of the world, it may be extremely implausible, but given billions of years, who knows? Then again, we're lucky this planet has life at all ,let alone that we evolved.
It's not any more plausible than any other way given the fact that it has never happened. It's always given billions of years to make it seem rational even though it is not. If it followed some chemical process then it would be able to be recreated...
You fail to understand that just because something is extremely implausible doesn't mean it can't happen, especially if what we know supports it. (E.G. the big bang, which is a fact, although EXTREMELY implausible)
Big bang not a fact...
 
Of course not, the odds of such an event happening are extraordinary, which is why we only have life on this planet within our solar system, well, we don't know about europa/etc yet, but hopefully soon, none the less, we've formed the compounds, however, expecting a cell to form based on the limited experiments done is ridiculous.
Some might say the odds make it impossible...
Yes, but the problem with your assessment is, it's a very plausible way to explain the formation of life, supported by observations and our understanding of the world, it may be extremely implausible, but given billions of years, who knows? Then again, we're lucky this planet has life at all ,let alone that we evolved.
It's not any more plausible than any other way given the fact that it has never happened. It's always given billions of years to make it seem rational even though it is not. If it followed some chemical process then it would be able to be recreated...
You fail to understand that just because something is extremely implausible doesn't mean it can't happen, especially if what we know supports it. (E.G. the big bang, which is a fact, although EXTREMELY implausible)
Big bang not a fact...
Yes, it is a fact. Hubble's law? Cosmic microwave background radiation? Light elements supporting the big bang models? It's the most plausible and supported theory regarding the origin of the universe as of now.
 
Yes, of course, sorry if actual science scares you.

So the molecules were trapped like rats in the water filled micropores and that's how 2000 proteins magically assembled themselves (remember, using only left handed amino acids) to form the first cell.
Who knows? It's plausible, we've seen organic compounds form naturally, and the conditions within the micro pores give a plausibility.
Plausible as in we could recreate the same situation and observe it?
Of course not, the odds of such an event happening are extraordinary, which is why we only have life on this planet within our solar system, well, we don't know about europa/etc yet, but hopefully soon, none the less, we've formed the compounds, however, expecting a cell to form based on the limited experiments done is ridiculous.
Some might say the odds make it impossible...

Some, such as religious zealots, typically use the "what are the odds", arguments because of their self imposed ignorance.

Science has the ability to explore and discover as opposed to the static nature of religion which is threatened by exploration and discovery.

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2013/09/news-roundup-su.html

News Roundup: Surprise, We’re Still Learning New Things

By Dave Thomas on September 17, 2013 9:01 AM | 93 Comments
Have you ever noticed how boring Creationism and/or Intelligent Design are? How many times must we endure hackneyed claims like “The Flagellum proves Intelligent Design,” or “The Cambrian Explosion Defies Darwinism” ?

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Science, however, is continuously being refined and improved, and new discoveries are the order of the day. Here are a few current stories that have relevance to the creationism-versus-evolution “debate.”

  • Darwin’s Dilemma Resolved: Evolution’s ‘Big Bang’ Explained by Five Times Faster Rates of Evolution

  • Functioning ‘Mechanical Gears’ Seen in Nature for First Time

  • DNA Double Take
More below the fold.
 
Of course not, the odds of such an event happening are extraordinary, which is why we only have life on this planet within our solar system, well, we don't know about europa/etc yet, but hopefully soon, none the less, we've formed the compounds, however, expecting a cell to form based on the limited experiments done is ridiculous.
Some might say the odds make it impossible...
Yes, but the problem with your assessment is, it's a very plausible way to explain the formation of life, supported by observations and our understanding of the world, it may be extremely implausible, but given billions of years, who knows? Then again, we're lucky this planet has life at all ,let alone that we evolved.
It's not any more plausible than any other way given the fact that it has never happened. It's always given billions of years to make it seem rational even though it is not. If it followed some chemical process then it would be able to be recreated...
You fail to understand that just because something is extremely implausible doesn't mean it can't happen, especially if what we know supports it. (E.G. the big bang, which is a fact, although EXTREMELY implausible)
Big bang not a fact...

The expansion of the universe is absolutely a fact. Your ignorance surrounding the "Big Bang" is your own issue to deal with.
 
Some might say the odds make it impossible...
Yes, but the problem with your assessment is, it's a very plausible way to explain the formation of life, supported by observations and our understanding of the world, it may be extremely implausible, but given billions of years, who knows? Then again, we're lucky this planet has life at all ,let alone that we evolved.
It's not any more plausible than any other way given the fact that it has never happened. It's always given billions of years to make it seem rational even though it is not. If it followed some chemical process then it would be able to be recreated...
You fail to understand that just because something is extremely implausible doesn't mean it can't happen, especially if what we know supports it. (E.G. the big bang, which is a fact, although EXTREMELY implausible)
Big bang not a fact...
Yes, it is a fact. Hubble's law? Cosmic microwave background radiation? Light elements supporting the big bang models? It's the most plausible and supported theory regarding the origin of the universe as of now.
So suddenly because something is currently the most plausible theory it is fact? Funny how one can make so many stretches but has no doubts about the science behind it...
 

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