Oregon decriminalizes hard drugs, legalizes magic mushrooms

[Blues Man]

Addiction treated as a medical issue in legalized states is absurd as f.u.c.k.i.n.g. to end love.

when it is treated as a medical issue addicts have better success staying sober than when they are thrown in jail and have to white knuckle it for a couple months only to get released and start using again

 

[Blues Man]

So

Should change the license plate motto to:

'The Drug Addict State"

Yep, you nailed that one.

When Portugal did the same thing they saw incidents of overdose deaths decrease and overall drug use decreased as well.

More people entered rehab and crime went down.

Do you think drug users in Portugal are any different than American drug users?

I think like anything else, if you take away the penalties, drug use will increase.

The penalties haven't decreased drug use.

All the money spent on the failed war on drugs did not result in a lowering of drug use. We have wasted hundreds of billions of dollars and the lives of tens of thousands of people and did not see any results.

And like I said in countries that have decriminalized drugs there is less crime, addiction decreases because it is treated as a medical issue. The countries save money by unclogging the courts and the cops are freed up to try to prevent more serious crimes.

China did it perfectly. No police or courts or wasteful trials. A drug test is all.

That wouldn't work with some of our addicts. For most of them it would.

you want to be like China?

What other civil rights do you want to get rid of?

 

[badger2]

No Einstein, you take the power into your own hands, not the legislative mafia. If you don't do drugs, you have already won and need no pimps of law. Musicians take psilocybin because it enhances hearing, though with what they think is an added benefit: the psychedelic cartoon.

 

[Blues Man]

No Einstein, you take the power into your own hands, not the legislative mafia. If you don't do drugs, you have already won and need no pimps of law. Musicians take psilocybin because it enhances hearing, though with what they think is an added benefit: the psychedelic cartoon.

I like to use drugs on occasion.

I enjoy a little hashish or marijuana on occasion I also like a nice glass of bourbon.

In case you forgot alcohol is a drug that has destroyed more lives than any other drug

 

[badger2]

#104: Since drugs are too unwieldy in a sexual yoga situation, we'll pass on the occasional offer and stick to developing full-body orgasm in human males. There are such entities as drug-free champions.

 

[badger2]

We should be more just. Yes, occasional, though age matters. When one approaches the Big Sleep, many distractions fall by the wayside, and a more focused trajectory may ensue. As always, drugs are external, substances which can be controlled by the media, the pimp, public opinion, peer pressure coercion, etc.

Sexual yoga generates pleasure only from two sources: the mind and the body, although considering one's partner while they consider you, if there is a seat of consciousness, it certainly does not reside in the cerebral cortex.

 

[Bulletbob]

Should change the license plate motto to:

'The Drug Addict State"

I guess every state in which you can drink alcohol should be called "The Alcoholic State."

no there is a difference between the affects of a little bit of booze compared to a little bit of meth coke and heroin

 

[badger2]

Yes, post # 101. That's how badger kicked tobacco. Set calmly for three days. After 72 hours, the shit is not in your system. From then on, it's a head trip.

 

[Juicey Omelette]

You don't need to take drugs to commit crimes.

Judge finalizes $25 million settlement for 'victims of Donald Trump's fraudulent university'

Holy shit?! Thanks for the most off topic change of subject I have ever seen on here, that has absolutely nothing to do with this post.

WTF is the matter with you? TDS has literally broken you "people".

I put people in quotations..because you aren't acting like human beings, but instead behave like unthinking NPC robots programmed by MSM/DNC to act as retarded as possible..

You TDS afflicted turds cannot discuss anything without bringing up Trump..even when he has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. Trump living rent free in that empty head of yours..

Get a ******* grip..then learn to stay on topic, shithead

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Oregon decriminalizes hard drugs, legalizes magic mushrooms

Good. Obviously, throwing people in prison for the last 50 years hasn't done dick. Time to try something different.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

So

Should change the license plate motto to:

'The Drug Addict State"

Yep, you nailed that one.

When Portugal did the same thing they saw incidents of overdose deaths decrease and overall drug use decreased as well.

More people entered rehab and crime went down.

Do you think drug users in Portugal are any different than American drug users?

I think like anything else, if you take away the penalties, drug use will increase.

The penalties haven't decreased drug use.

All the money spent on the failed war on drugs did not result in a lowering of drug use. We have wasted hundreds of billions of dollars and the lives of tens of thousands of people and did not see any results.

And like I said in countries that have decriminalized drugs there is less crime, addiction decreases because it is treated as a medical issue. The countries save money by unclogging the courts and the cops are freed up to try to prevent more serious crimes.

China did it perfectly. No police or courts or wasteful trials. A drug test is all.

That wouldn't work with some of our addicts. For most of them it would.

you want to be like China?

What other civil rights do you want to get rid of?

You want to get police and courts out of it. You want addiction treated as a medical issue. There it is, medical issue. Now you don't like it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Oregon is the drain around which druggies will swirl. This is a very very good thing. It will ease the drug problem for other states.

 

[Juicey Omelette]

I didn't put a link in my response to you

but here's one

Portugal Solved Its Drug Crisis. Why Can't America Do The Same?

When 1% of its population was caught in the grips of a heroin epidemic, Portugal took the radical step to decriminalize drugs. It worked.

www.huffpost.com

Over the last nearly two decades, the number of heroin users in Portugal has been cut by two thirds and drug-related deaths have plummeted from more than one a day in 1999 to 30 in all of 2016. The fall in new drug-related HIV infections has been even more striking, with 18 recorded in 2016, according to a 2019 report by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, compared with 907 in 2000.

Okay man..I hate HuffPo, but just for you..
I thought I would give it a read to see if it shows STATISTICS ON A DECREASE IN DRUG RELATED, OR INVOLVED CRIMES that coincided with legalization of heroin and other hard drugs.

And guess what, guy? It doesn't. Classic HuffPo..all fluff, no substance.

Also, I don't trust any information coming out of these countries that have done this, and are vested in showing that it works.

An independent study of the statistics done by another group outside of Portugal would carry more weight.

I also draw into question the way the Portuguese are reporting whether a crime is drug related or not..

Because if the Portuguese law enforcement isn't charging people for drug possession than it reasons they aren't reporting the presence of drugs, or substance abuse addiction as a cause in relation to the crimes being committed.

In some of these countries they're actually giving heroin to addicts to hopefully eventually wean them off the drug.

The Swiss Heroin Experiment | Addiction in Switzerland

Learn about Switzerland’s unique approach to heroin addiction, which includes the use of drug tolerance zones and heroin prescription programs.

heroin.net

I don't understand that? Essentially what they have now done is created a demographic of lifelong government funded drug addicts.

Again the studies reported from these countries say that there has been a decrease in drug related crimes, but I am not finding any links to the statistical data proving that assertion.

 

[pknopp]

You don't need to take drugs to commit crimes.

Judge finalizes $25 million settlement for 'victims of Donald Trump's fraudulent university'

Holy shit?! Thanks for the most off topic change of subject I have ever seen on here, that has absolutely nothing to do with this post.

WTF is the matter with you? TDS has literally broken you "people".

I put people in quotations..because you aren't acting like human beings, but instead behave like unthinking NPC robots programmed by MSM/DNC to act as retarded as possible..

You TDS afflicted turds cannot discuss anything without bringing up Trump..even when he has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. Trump living rent free in that empty head of yours..

Get a ******* grip..then learn to stay on topic, shithead

My point is you are very particular in what crimes you want to condemn.

 

[g5000]

Check Oregon's suicide rate a year from now. It will have doubled at a minimum.

QFP

Oregon currently has 15.9 suicides per 100,000.

Suicide: 20 states with highest rates

People are far more likely to kill themselves in some states than in others

www.cbsnews.com

 

[g5000]

Overdose deaths increase by almost 30%

Deaths from overdose in Portugal increased by almost 30 percent in 2018 and reached their highest figure in the last five years, with most cases involving more than one substance, according to the SICAD reports.

www.theportugalnews.com

For a grand total of 49 overdose deaths. Which means the previous year was 38 overdose deaths.

That would equate to 1568 overdose deaths in the US. We should be so lucky.

CDC: Drug overdose deaths up 4.6% in 2019 | AHA News

Drug overdose deaths in the United States rose 4.6% in 2019 to 70,980, including 50,042 involving opioids, according to preliminary data released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

www.aha.org

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Drug overdose deaths in the United States rose 4.6% in 2019 to 70,980, including 50,042 involving opioids, according to preliminary data released yesterday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

 

[Skylar]

Overdose deaths increase by almost 30%

Deaths from overdose in Portugal increased by almost 30 percent in 2018 and reached their highest figure in the last five years, with most cases involving more than one substance, according to the SICAD reports.

www.theportugalnews.com

For a grand total of 49 overdose deaths. Which means the previous year was 38 overdose deaths.

That's a viscous 0.00047% death rate.

 

[g5000]

In Wisconsin, Tony Robinson was apparently playing in traffic high on psilocybin. The cops were called, Robinson was shot dead. Go Oregon!

I guess you didn't see the words "in a controlled setting".

 

[Blues Man]

So

Should change the license plate motto to:

'The Drug Addict State"

Yep, you nailed that one.

When Portugal did the same thing they saw incidents of overdose deaths decrease and overall drug use decreased as well.

More people entered rehab and crime went down.

Do you think drug users in Portugal are any different than American drug users?

I think like anything else, if you take away the penalties, drug use will increase.

The penalties haven't decreased drug use.

All the money spent on the failed war on drugs did not result in a lowering of drug use. We have wasted hundreds of billions of dollars and the lives of tens of thousands of people and did not see any results.

And like I said in countries that have decriminalized drugs there is less crime, addiction decreases because it is treated as a medical issue. The countries save money by unclogging the courts and the cops are freed up to try to prevent more serious crimes.

China did it perfectly. No police or courts or wasteful trials. A drug test is all.

That wouldn't work with some of our addicts. For most of them it would.

you want to be like China?

What other civil rights do you want to get rid of?

You want to get police and courts out of it. You want addiction treated as a medical issue. There it is, medical issue. Now you don't like it.

You didn't say anything about China's policy.

Why do I have the feeling in China that they don't bother with trials in general?

 

[Blues Man]

I didn't put a link in my response to you

but here's one

Portugal Solved Its Drug Crisis. Why Can't America Do The Same?

When 1% of its population was caught in the grips of a heroin epidemic, Portugal took the radical step to decriminalize drugs. It worked.

www.huffpost.com

Over the last nearly two decades, the number of heroin users in Portugal has been cut by two thirds and drug-related deaths have plummeted from more than one a day in 1999 to 30 in all of 2016. The fall in new drug-related HIV infections has been even more striking, with 18 recorded in 2016, according to a 2019 report by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, compared with 907 in 2000.

Okay man..I hate HuffPo, but just for you..
I thought I would give it a read to see if it shows STATISTICS ON A DECREASE IN DRUG RELATED, OR INVOLVED CRIMES that coincided with legalization of heroin and other hard drugs.

And guess what, guy? It doesn't. Classic HuffPo..all fluff, no substance.

Also, I don't trust any information coming out of these countries that have done this, and are vested in showing that it works.

An independent study of the statistics done by another group outside of Portugal would carry more weight.

I also draw into question the way the Portuguese are reporting whether a crime is drug related or not..

Because if the Portuguese law enforcement isn't charging people for drug possession than it reasons they aren't reporting the presence of drugs, or substance abuse addiction as a cause in relation to the crimes being committed.

In some of these countries they're actually giving heroin to addicts to hopefully eventually wean them off the drug.

The Swiss Heroin Experiment | Addiction in Switzerland

Learn about Switzerland’s unique approach to heroin addiction, which includes the use of drug tolerance zones and heroin prescription programs.

heroin.net

I don't understand that? Essentially what they have now done is created a demographic of lifelong government funded drug addicts.

Again the studies reported from these countries say that there has been a decrease in drug related crimes, but I am not finding any links to the statistical data proving that assertion.

I see you conveniently missed the part where the article said that Overdose deaths went from nearly one a day to 30 in a year.

But if you don't like Huffington here you go

The EU country where drugs are decriminalised – and hardly anyone dies of an overdose

The country has 3 overdose deaths per million citizens, compared to the EU average of 17.3

www.independent.co.uk

Portugal's drug policy pays off; US eyes lessons

These days, Casal Ventoso is an ordinary blue-collar community — mothers push baby strollers, men smoke outside cafes, buses chug up and down the cobbled main street.

www.foxnews.com

Is Portugal's drug policy a success? - Econlib

This story seems almost too good to be true: Decades ago, the United States and Portugal both struggled with illicit drugs and took decisive action – in diametrically opposite directions. The US cracked down vigorously, spending billions of dollars incarcerating drug users. In contrast, Portugal...

www.econlib.org

https://www.drugpolicy.org/sites/default/files/dpa-drug-decriminalization-portugal-health-human-centered-approach_0.pdf

5 Years After: Portugal's Drug Decriminalization Policy Shows Positive Results

Street drug–related deaths from overdoses drop and the rate of HIV cases crashes

www.scientificamerican.com

Do you need more?