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The catch phrase of the age: or the terrorists win - USATODAY.com

In Las Vegas, a former governor said it. In Columbia, S.C., a criminologist said it. Outside Washington, D.C., a retired general said it. A social studies teacher in Marietta, Ga., said it, as did the mayor of Shelby, Mont., and an editorial writer in Jackson, Miss.

If we hide in the basement; if we cancel the ballgame; if we don't go to school; if we trade freedom for security; if we strike a scapegoat or stoop to vengeance or turn on each other; if we change in any of a thousand ways -- then, they all said on Sept. 11, 2001, "the terrorists have won."
 

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The catch phrase of the age: or the terrorists win - USATODAY.com

In Las Vegas, a former governor said it. In Columbia, S.C., a criminologist said it. Outside Washington, D.C., a retired general said it. A social studies teacher in Marietta, Ga., said it, as did the mayor of Shelby, Mont., and an editorial writer in Jackson, Miss.

If we hide in the basement; if we cancel the ballgame; if we don't go to school; if we trade freedom for security; if we strike a scapegoat or stoop to vengeance or turn on each other; if we change in any of a thousand ways -- then, they all said on Sept. 11, 2001, "the terrorists have won."
So when Obama shot Osama, ' the terrorists won'.

Try selling that on any street corner.
 
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So when Obama shot Osama, ' the terrorists won'.
Straw man argument. Nothing else to do today? Have a particular agenda you'd like to push but don't want to start a thread on it yourself?
 

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Terrorists Infiltrating US Military...
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Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee sees internal threats to military
12/7/11 : Rep. Peter King on Wednesday cited “alarming new developments” that showed what he said was a rising and relatively unknown threat to American soldiers – terrorists who are infiltrating the U.S. military and increasingly targeting service members and their families.
“Our troops volunteer to go into harm’s way overseas to protect all of us,” the New York Republican said in his opening remarks at a hearing. “They should not be in harm’s way here at home, and yet they are.” King, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee who has been aggressively pushing his inquiry into the radicalization and recruitment of Muslim-Americans by terrorist organizations, noted that in the last 10 years, at least five terror plots that involved U.S. military insiders have been stopped. And officials have investigated or prosecuted more than 30 cases since Sept. 11, 2001 that involved terrorists within the United States targeting the military, he added.

Wednesday’s hearing, held with the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, was the fourth in a series hosted by King that looked at radicalization of Muslim-Americans by terrorist organizations. The first examined radicalization generally; the second focused on radicalization in U.S. prisons; and the third looked at al-Shabaab, a Somalia-based terrorist group with potential ties to Al Qaeda. King has also taken his crusade overseas, testifying before a British Parliamentary committee in September.

King has faced criticisms from some fellow lawmakers and many outside organizations that have called his inquiry a discriminatory witch hunt. Indeed, his counterpart on the House Homeland Security Committee, Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), again denounced King’s hearings, saying they are creating perceptions that are “not likely to be accurate, nuanced or subtle.” “Our military is open to all faiths,” Thompson said in the hearing. “A congressional hearing that focuses on religion and the military is likely to harm unit cohesion and undermine morale.” As he has done repeatedly over the last several months, King again defended his hearings. “We cannot back down to political correctness,” he said.

Both King and Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), who chairs the Senate panel, noted that the sole terrorist attacks since Sept. 11, 2001 within the U.S. that have resulted in deaths were at military facilities. They include the November 2009 Fort Hood attack that killed 13, and the death of Pvt. William Long, who was killed at a Little Rock, Ark., recruiting station in June 2009. Lt. Col. Reid Sawyer from the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point added during his opening remarks that about half of all Al Qaeda plots within the U.S. in the last 10 years have targeted the military. “The stark reality, therefore, is that American service members and their families are increasingly in the terrorists’ scope and not just overseas in a traditional war setting,” Lieberman said. “So the premise of this hearing — this joint hearing — is not theoretical. It is based on fact.”

Read more: Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee sees internal threats to military - Seung Min Kim - POLITICO.com
 

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The catch phrase of the age: or the terrorists win - USATODAY.com

In Las Vegas, a former governor said it. In Columbia, S.C., a criminologist said it. Outside Washington, D.C., a retired general said it. A social studies teacher in Marietta, Ga., said it, as did the mayor of Shelby, Mont., and an editorial writer in Jackson, Miss.

If we hide in the basement; if we cancel the ballgame; if we don't go to school; if we trade freedom for security; if we strike a scapegoat or stoop to vengeance or turn on each other; if we change in any of a thousand ways -- then, they all said on Sept. 11, 2001, "the terrorists have won."
So when Obama shot Osama, ' the terrorists won'.
We should let them "win" more. ;)
 

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Terrorists Infiltrating US Military...
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Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee sees internal threats to military
12/7/11 : Rep. Peter King on Wednesday cited “alarming new developments” that showed what he said was a rising and relatively unknown threat to American soldiers – terrorists who are infiltrating the U.S. military and increasingly targeting service members and their families.
“Our troops volunteer to go into harm’s way overseas to protect all of us,” the New York Republican said in his opening remarks at a hearing. “They should not be in harm’s way here at home, and yet they are.” King, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee who has been aggressively pushing his inquiry into the radicalization and recruitment of Muslim-Americans by terrorist organizations, noted that in the last 10 years, at least five terror plots that involved U.S. military insiders have been stopped. And officials have investigated or prosecuted more than 30 cases since Sept. 11, 2001 that involved terrorists within the United States targeting the military, he added.

Wednesday’s hearing, held with the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, was the fourth in a series hosted by King that looked at radicalization of Muslim-Americans by terrorist organizations. The first examined radicalization generally; the second focused on radicalization in U.S. prisons; and the third looked at al-Shabaab, a Somalia-based terrorist group with potential ties to Al Qaeda. King has also taken his crusade overseas, testifying before a British Parliamentary committee in September.

King has faced criticisms from some fellow lawmakers and many outside organizations that have called his inquiry a discriminatory witch hunt. Indeed, his counterpart on the House Homeland Security Committee, Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), again denounced King’s hearings, saying they are creating perceptions that are “not likely to be accurate, nuanced or subtle.” “Our military is open to all faiths,” Thompson said in the hearing. “A congressional hearing that focuses on religion and the military is likely to harm unit cohesion and undermine morale.” As he has done repeatedly over the last several months, King again defended his hearings. “We cannot back down to political correctness,” he said.

Both King and Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), who chairs the Senate panel, noted that the sole terrorist attacks since Sept. 11, 2001 within the U.S. that have resulted in deaths were at military facilities. They include the November 2009 Fort Hood attack that killed 13, and the death of Pvt. William Long, who was killed at a Little Rock, Ark., recruiting station in June 2009. Lt. Col. Reid Sawyer from the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point added during his opening remarks that about half of all Al Qaeda plots within the U.S. in the last 10 years have targeted the military. “The stark reality, therefore, is that American service members and their families are increasingly in the terrorists’ scope and not just overseas in a traditional war setting,” Lieberman said. “So the premise of this hearing — this joint hearing — is not theoretical. It is based on fact.”

Read more: Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee sees internal threats to military - Seung Min Kim - POLITICO.com
This doesn't surprise me...look what happened at Ft. Hood. I've heard of others trying the same thing. I seem to remember a soldier a few years ago in Iraq that killed several soldiers on their base when they were sleeping. I believe he was also found to be a muslim. NOT saying it happened just because he's a muslim tho (just to get that straight!) :)
 

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I actually used that phrase yesterday - albeit tongue in cheek. We had a threat against the school that spread like wildfire through facebook. Half the students stayed home from school, and the other half were suffering high anxiety. It seemed to me that the "terrorist had won". I hope they catch that little bastard and send his parents a bill for the bomb dogs, the dozen or so police patrols, and the loss of education of about 1000 students. (Wishful thinking on my part)
 

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The catch phrase of the age: or the terrorists win - USATODAY.com

In Las Vegas, a former governor said it. In Columbia, S.C., a criminologist said it. Outside Washington, D.C., a retired general said it. A social studies teacher in Marietta, Ga., said it, as did the mayor of Shelby, Mont., and an editorial writer in Jackson, Miss.

If we hide in the basement; if we cancel the ballgame; if we don't go to school; if we trade freedom for security; if we strike a scapegoat or stoop to vengeance or turn on each other; if we change in any of a thousand ways -- then, they all said on Sept. 11, 2001, "the terrorists have won."
So when Obama shot Osama, ' the terrorists won'.

Try selling that on any street corner.
The day the public swallowed the whole war on terror BS, and sat back while the patriot act was passed, was when the "terrorists" won.
Just think for a minute how many times the gullible public was told "they hate us for our freedoms" then our own government starts stripping away the bill of rights and constitutional amendments, that they said the "terrorists" hated us for...:eusa_liar: :cuckoo:
 

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Al-Shabaab to merge with al-Qaeda...
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Al-Shabaab joining al Qaeda, monitor group says
Thu February 9, 2012 - The news "will delight the believers and annoy the crusaders," al-Zawahiri says; Al-Shabaab has long been closely affiliated with al Qaeda; The group had suffered a series of setbacks in recent months; It had vowed allegiance to Osama bin Laden before his death
Somalia's Al-Shabaab rebel movement has tightened its ties to the al Qaeda terror network, with its leader pledging loyalty to al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri. The Islamist militants control much of southern Somalia and have long been affiliated with al Qaeda. But in an audio message posted on Al-Shabaab's website Thursday, the Somali group's leader, Mukhtar Abu al-Zubair, tells al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri that his followers "will march with you as loyal soldiers."

Al-Zawahiri took command of al Qaeda after U.S. commandos killed the movement's founder, Osama bin Laden, last May. Al-Zubair addresses al-Zawahiri as "my dear commander and kind sheikh" and congratulates him "for the defeat of the crusaders in Afghanistan and Iraq." "On behalf of the soldiers and the commanders in al-Shabaab, we pledge allegiance to you. So lead us to the path of jihad and martyrdom that was drawn by our imam, the martyr Osama."

And in a video message posted on the site, al-Zawahiri hails the move as news "that will delight the believers and annoy the crusaders." "The Arab region is slipping from America's grip," he says. The combined messages run nearly 15 minutes. Al-Shabaab is already considered a terrorist movement by the United States. It has been battling Somalia's U.N.-backed transitional government and African Union peacekeepers for the past several years, but has suffered a series of setbacks in recent months.

AU and government forces drove Al-Shabaab fighters from the center of the Somali capital Mogadishu last year, while Kenyan troops crossed into southern Somalia in October to hit back for a rash of kidnappings it blamed on the group. In November, the leaders of Kenya, Somalia and Uganda reaffirmed their commitments to battle Al-Shabaab, and U.S. officials say the group has recruited Somali-Americans to take up arms in their ancestral home.

Al-Shabaab joining al Qaeda, monitor group says - CNN.com
 

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I see this as a good thing for the procedure forms two terrorist entities into one organization. It's then a single head to cut off.
 

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Obama wants `em dead or alive...
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U.S. puts bounty on Somali terror group leaders
Fri June 8, 2012 - The United States is offering $7 million for the whereabouts of al-Shabaab's founder; The State Department calls the terror group "a threat to stability"; Rewards are also offered for six of his associates
The United States is offering millions of dollars for the whereabouts of seven key members of the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabaab, a Somalia-based terror group behind bombings and attacks in the region. The announcement posted on the website of the U.S. State Department's Rewards for Justice program offers $7 million for information on the location of Ahmed Abdi Aw-Mohamed, the founder of al-Shabaab. In announcing the bounties on Mohamed and his key associates Thursday, the State Department called al-Shabaab "a threat to the stability of East Africa and to the national security interests of the United States."

This year, he and al Qaeda's leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, released a joint video formally announcing a merger between the terror groups. The announcement of the bounties follows U.S. strikes that have taken out key al Qaeda leaders, including this week's killing of Abu Yahya al-Libi -- considered the longtime public face of the group. Last year, a U.S. drone strike killed Anwar al-Awlaki and al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden was shot to death by U.S. commandos.

Al-Shabaab, which has battled Somalia's weak transitional government since 2007, controls much of southern Somalia and is active around the capital city of Mogadishu. The U.S. listed it as a terror organization in 2008. "The group is responsible for the killing of thousands of Somali civilians, Somali peace activists, international aid workers, journalists and African Union peacekeepers," the State Department said.

The State Department is also offering up to $5 million each for information leading to the location of four of Aw-Mohamed's associates, who make up his inner circle: Ibrahim Haji Jama, Fuad Mohamed Khalaf, Bashir Mohamed Mahamoud, and Mukhtar Robow, who acts as the group's spokesman and spiritual leader. In addition, it is offering up to $3 million each for two of the terror group's other leaders: Zakariya Ismail Ahmed Hersi and Abdullahi Yare.

Al-Shabaab's reach extends beyond Somalia's borders. It claimed responsibility for 2010 suicide bombings that killed more than 70 people in Uganda and threatened attacks against U.S., Kenyan and Burundian interests in the region. Mohamed is considered al-Shabaab's operational commander in Somalia and is believed to have been born July 10, 1977, in the Somali city of Hargeisa.

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The catch phrase of the age: or the terrorists win - USATODAY.com

In Las Vegas, a former governor said it. In Columbia, S.C., a criminologist said it. Outside Washington, D.C., a retired general said it. A social studies teacher in Marietta, Ga., said it, as did the mayor of Shelby, Mont., and an editorial writer in Jackson, Miss.

If we hide in the basement; if we cancel the ballgame; if we don't go to school; if we trade freedom for security; if we strike a scapegoat or stoop to vengeance or turn on each other; if we change in any of a thousand ways -- then, they all said on Sept. 11, 2001, "the terrorists have won."
So when Obama shot Osama, ' the terrorists won'.

Try selling that on any street corner.
Obama shot Osama? Really? Damn, I thought it was SEAL Team 6. Color me shocked. Obama is such a badass!
 

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An' dey's comin' to a town near you!...
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Napolitano: Terrorists Enter U.S. from Mexico ‘From Time to Time’
July 30, 2012 -- Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told Congress last week that terrorists intending to harm the American people enter the U.S. from Mexico “from time to time."
At a July 25 hearing of the House Homeland Security Committee, Rep. Ron Barber (D-Ariz.) asked Napolitano: “As you know, Madam Secretary, there have been anecdotal reports about material evidence of the presence of terrorists along our southern border. My question is, is there any credible evidence that these reports are accurate and that terrorists are, in fact, crossing our southern border with the intent to do harm to the American people?”

Napolitano answered: “With respect, there have been--and the Ababziar matter would be one I would refer to that's currently being adjudicated in the criminal courts--from time to time, and we are constantly working against different and evolving threats involving various terrorist groups and various ways they may seek to enter the country.” “What I can tell you, however, is that that southern border--the U.S.-Mexico border--is heavily, heavily staffed at record amounts of manpower, materiel, infrastructure and the like, and we are constantly making sure we're doing all we can to make that border as safe as possible,” she said.

An August 2009 audit by the Government Accountability Office that focused on Customs and Border Protection (CBP) checkpoints said that in fiscal 2008 CBP reported “there were three individuals encountered by the Border Patrol at southwest border checkpoints who were identified as persons linked to terrorism.” In April 2010, CNSNews.com reported that FBI Director Robert Mueller told the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, “In Detroit, Mahmoud Youssef Kourani was indicted in the Eastern District of Michigan on one count of conspiracy to provide material support to Hezbollah. … Kourani was already in custody for entering the country illegally through Mexico and was involved in fundraising activities on behalf of Hezbollah.”

Five years ago, in an August 2007 interview with the El Paso Times, then-Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell echoed what Napolitano told Congress last week about terrorist coming into the U.S. across the Mexican border. “So, are terrorists coming across the Southwest border?” McConnell said in that interview. “Not in great numbers.” “There are some cases?” asked the El Paso Times. “There are some. And would they use it as a path, given it was available to them? In time they will,” said McConnell. “If they're successful at it, then they'll probably repeat it,” asked the reporter. “Sure,” said McConnell. “There were a significant number of Iraqis who came across last year. Smuggled across illegally.” “Where was that?” asked the reporter. “Across the Southwest border,” said McConnell.

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