Zone1 opinion about the bible

Goggle it. The definition of a pit has to have a bottom. A hole dug out of the ground will have a bottom, always.

"Yes, a pit generally needs to have a bottom, but the material and function of that bottom depend on the pit's purpose. "

In the Bible, the "pit" can refer to a literal hole, a prison, or a spiritual state of death and separation from God. It represents a place of destruction, despair, and judgment, but also can symbolize the grave from which Christ has triumphed, or a place of temporary holding for demonic forces.

Gee, do you get your understanding of the Bible from 'google'? Do you own a Bible?

The Bible says 'bottomless pit'. Why shouldn't it mean 'bottomless pit'?

The Bible speaks of a Lake of Fire? What does google say?

The Bible speaks of Satan bound for a thousand years. What does google say?

The Bible speaks of a new Heaven and a new earth. What does google say.

The Bible says Jesus is Alpha and Omega. What does google say?

Quantrill
 
Gee, do you get your understanding of the Bible from 'google'? Do you own a Bible?

The Bible says 'bottomless pit'. Why shouldn't it mean 'bottomless pit'?

The Bible speaks of a Lake of Fire? What does google say?

The Bible speaks of Satan bound for a thousand years. What does google say?

The Bible speaks of a new Heaven and a new earth. What does google say.

The Bible says Jesus is Alpha and Omega. What does google say?

Quantrill
I'm just trying to help you understand that bottomless pit and lake of fire and brimstone are just metaphors to help understand how we will feel missing out on Heaven. It's not a real place where you can make energy from.
 
I'm just trying to help you understand that bottomless pit and lake of fire and brimstone are just metaphors to help understand how we will feel missing out on Heaven. It's not a real place where you can make energy from.

What makes it/them a metaphor? Google?

Quantrill
 
What makes it/them a metaphor? Google?

Quantrill
Nope. Simple knowledge because Adam and Eve partook of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. I think something you missed. I didn't need Google to tell me what a pit is and looks like. It has a bottom.
 
Nope. Simple knowledge because Adam and Eve partook of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. I think something you missed. I didn't need Google to tell me what a pit is and looks like. It has a bottom.

That doesn't make the bottomless pit a metaphor. Nor the Lake of Fire.

Were Adam and Eve metaphors? Was the Garden of Eden a metaphor. Was the Tree of knowledge of good and evil a metaphor?

Why or why not?

Quantrill
 
the tiny book that Is sweet to the taste and bitter to the stomach

(Rev. 10:2-11) "And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven....And he had in his hand a little book....But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets...take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel...Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey....And I took the little book out of the angels hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey; and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter."

(Psalm 19:9-10) "...the judgements of the LORD are true and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb."

(Jer. 15:15-16) "O LORD, thou knowest: remember me, and revenge me of my persecutors...for thy sake I have suffered rebuke...Thy words were found, and I did eat them: and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart..."

(Ezekiel 2:3) "And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me...."

(Ezekiel 2:7-10) "And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear: for they are most rebellious....Be not thou rebellious like that rebellious house: open thy mouth, and eat that I give thee. And when I looked, behold, a hand was sent unto me; and lo, a roll of a book was therein; And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without; and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe."

(Ezekiel 3:1-3) "...Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel. So I opened my mouth, and he caused me to eat that roll. And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I eat it, and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness.

(Ezekiel 3:25) "But thou, O son of man, behold, they shall put bands upon thee, and shall bind thee with them, and thou shalt not go out among them."

So, it can be seen that the Word of the LORD given to the prophets was sweet to the taste as they took in all that it said. But it's message can and will be bitter to its results for it speaks of judgement and woes to come. And the response of those being preached to will not be received and they will turn on the prophets.

And so was the message of the little book. But, that message John was told not to speak. (Rev. 10:4) It was for John only to know it. Which I suspect will be revealed when that day comes.

Quantrill
 
That doesn't make the bottomless pit a metaphor. Nor the Lake of Fire.

Were Adam and Eve metaphors? Was the Garden of Eden a metaphor. Was the Tree of knowledge of good and evil a metaphor?

Why or why not?

Quantrill
Nope! Adam and Eve, the Garden were real and not metaphors. But, a term like bottomless pit is a metaphor.
 
Nope! Adam and Eve, the Garden were real and not metaphors. But, a term like bottomless pit is a metaphor.

Yes, but why. What makes the bottomless pit a metaphor and the Garden of Eden or the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil not a metaphor?

Quantrill
 
Yes, but why. What makes the bottomless pit a metaphor and the Garden of Eden or the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil not a metaphor?

Quantrill
Pits have bottoms. That's why. Why would the Tree be a metaphor? Trees actually exist while bottomless pits don't. Is that clear enough for you?
 
Pits have bottoms. That's why. Why would the Tree be a metaphor? Trees actually exist while bottomless pits don't. Is that clear enough for you?

Well, yes I understand what you're saying. But what you're saying is not consistent with the Scripture.

Do trees of knowledge of good and evil exist. (Gen. 2:17) The tree of life? (Gen. 3:22)?

Just because a bottomless pit does not exist in our physical world, doesn't mean God has not created a bottomless pit in that spiritual world.

To believe what the Bible is saying only on the basis of what you know in the physical world is to not believe the Bible. Because God is Supernatural. The Bible is supernatural. We who are believers are supernatural being born of Him.

Quantrill
 
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Well, yes I understand what you're saying. But what you're saying is not consistent with the Scripture.

Do trees of knowledge of good and evil exist. (Gen. 2:17) The tree of life? (Gen. 3:22)?

Just because a bottomless pit does not exist in our physical world, doesn't mean God has not created a bottomless pit in that spiritual world.

To believe what the Bible is saying only on the basis of what you know in the physical world is to not believe the Bible. Because God is Supernatural. The Bible is supernatural. We who are believers are supernatural being born of Him.

Quantrill
So, what is the fruit of that tree of knowledge of good and evil? So, yes, a tree can be a metaphor. So, if you believe that in the spirit world that there are bottomless pits, you could believe that it's real. However, the same problem exists that pits by definition have bottoms whether on the earth or in the heavens. I'd also point out that the spirit world is not supernatural. it's quite natural and exists just like what we call the physical world and universe. Just finer materials and/or in a different dimension.
 
So, what is the fruit of that tree of knowledge of good and evil? So, yes, a tree can be a metaphor. So, if you believe that in the spirit world that there are bottomless pits, you could believe that it's real. However, the same problem exists that pits by definition have bottoms whether on the earth or in the heavens. I'd also point out that the spirit world is not supernatural. it's quite natural and exists just like what we call the physical world and universe. Just finer materials and/or in a different dimension.

My question to you was/is what makes the 'tree of knowledge of good and evil' and the 'tree of life' not a metaphor and makes the 'bottomless pit' a metaphor?

Your answer that a pit has a bottom is no answer. Just like there is no tree of knowledge of good and evil on the earth today. There is no tree of life on the earth today.

Quantrill
 
Are there any commas or paragraphs in the Bible?

Not in the original ...

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My question to you was/is what makes the 'tree of knowledge of good and evil' and the 'tree of life' not a metaphor and makes the 'bottomless pit' a metaphor?

Your answer that a pit has a bottom is no answer. Just like there is no tree of knowledge of good and evil on the earth today. There is no tree of life on the earth today.

Quantrill
Read my post again. Especially the first couple of lines. You miss a lot when you speed read.
 
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