Open Letter to Sarah Palin: Republican US Marine Chris Mark on PTSD stigma and suicide

[tinydancer]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

 

[emilynghiem]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

Hi tinydancer I don't read that in what he's saying, at all.
The same way you and I don't read Palin as saying she is excusing or trying to blame PTSD lightly for anything someone does.

Whatever you are reading into this that is upsetting you,
maybe that's why people are reading things into what Palin said that is upsetting them!

She touches on sensitive issues, I agree with you she would know more about where
her son has been coming from, and is going to be with him all the way through.

I don't disagree with you at all, so why are you cursing me?
Where are you getting that interpretation from?
The same place other people got all worked up over what Palin said
that neither you or I see that way either?

I think she was speaking realistically and so is this author.
Where's the conflict or the need to curse anyone out?

 

[tinydancer]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

close it. we can already see where it's headed. sheesh

I'm ready to bazooka barf Steph.

 

[emilynghiem]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

close it. we can already see where it's headed. sheesh

I'm ready to bazooka barf Steph.

RE: What the hell are you people doing?

Looks like we're all using the internet for group therapy.
Some for venting in the anger phase.
Others for bargaining and trying to find closure and peace.
Some Q&A like asking WTF?
And of course denial and projection, using each other as mirrors and/or target practice.

Good job tinydancer keep it up
We'll get all our PTSD angst out on this thread, and hopefully leave it here.
The cheapest therapy you can find, free speech on the web.
You can verbally clobber someone legally and not have to resort to physical violence.
Pretty cool, let's rock and roll!

 

[blackhawk]

Unless the writer of the letter has a medical degree and knows how to determine if someone is suffering from PTSD and has examined Track Palin then his opinion on the subject has no more merit than mine or anyone else's. The fact is none of us know if Track is suffering from PTSD or not and the majority are basing their views on if he does or does not based on politics how they feel about his mother.

 

[tinydancer]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

Hi tinydancer I don't read that in what he's saying, at all.
The same way you and I don't read Palin as saying she is excusing or trying to blame PTSD lightly for anything someone does.

Whatever you are reading into this that is upsetting you,
maybe that's why people are reading things into what Palin said that is upsetting them!

She touches on sensitive issues, I agree with you she would know more about where
her son has been coming from, and is going to be with him all the way through.

I don't disagree with you at all, so why are you cursing me?
Where are you getting that interpretation from?
The same place other people got all worked up over what Palin said
that neither you or I see that way either?

I think she was speaking realistically and so is this author.
Where's the conflict or the need to curse anyone out?

Because you put out an op ed from someone slamming Track.

Want to know why I take this oh so personally. Not from you. Not from you girl. I had two friends really really good dear friends from Myrtle Beach who got the call. Nam baby. My mom tried to save them. We got them back to Waterdown Ontario. In the end with my fathers input my friends knew they had to serve and Doug and Arthur went off to fight. Arthur came home ok. Doug didn't.

People don't talk rationally about PTSD. You can't You just cant. So I'm not going to slam Sarah for her take on her son. Because to this day I still still cry for my friend. His name is Doug.

 

[emilynghiem]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

Hi tinydancer I don't read that in what he's saying, at all.
The same way you and I don't read Palin as saying she is excusing or trying to blame PTSD lightly for anything someone does.

Whatever you are reading into this that is upsetting you,
maybe that's why people are reading things into what Palin said that is upsetting them!

She touches on sensitive issues, I agree with you she would know more about where
her son has been coming from, and is going to be with him all the way through.

I don't disagree with you at all, so why are you cursing me?
Where are you getting that interpretation from?
The same place other people got all worked up over what Palin said
that neither you or I see that way either?

I think she was speaking realistically and so is this author.
Where's the conflict or the need to curse anyone out?

Because you put out an op ed from someone slamming Track.

Want to know why I take this oh so personally. Not from you. Not from you girl. I had two friends really really good dear friends from Myrtle Beach who got the call. Nam baby. My mom tried to save them. We got them back to Waterdown Ontario. In the end with my fathers input my friends knew they had to serve and Doug and Arthur went off to fight. Arthur came home ok. Doug didn't.

People don't talk rationally about PTSD. You can't You just cant. So I'm not going to slam Sarah for her take on her son. Because to this day I still still cry for my friend. His name is Doug.

Dear tinydancer
I didn't see him as slamming Track but talking about the same thing Sarah Palin
was and DEALING with his SITUATION. We are talking about correcting
the BEHAVIOR here, not insulting or attacking the people!

Sorry you see this as an attack.

I guess you demonstrate why people saw what she said as negative also.
How easy it is to read things into it
you see as unfair, insulting or wrong, and not what she is saying!

I agree, and say what you are angry about is not what I am saying either!
I think you are right to be mad, because you think the point
is to "slam Track or Sarah Palin" but it's not what I mean at all.

I support her in what she said as very positive.
And I see the same in what this author is saying.

Both are talking about PTSD and I don't see anyone as intending any personal attacks on anyone!
Sorry tinydancer but I'm not into any personal attacks here.
I totally support the positive things I see Palin and Mark both
saying about helping understand PTSD and not judging people.

I think they both spoke very well from their personal experience
so these do not contradict each other.

The issue is PTSD and they are both right in my eyes, they are both dealing with it in a positive environment
that allows for correction and healing.

 

[Gracie]

**** Palin and her trashy brood.

There. That's my not so humble opinion.

 

[tinydancer]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

close it. we can already see where it's headed. sheesh

I'm ready to bazooka barf Steph.

RE: What the hell are you people doing?

Looks like we're all using the internet for group therapy.
Some for venting in the anger phase.
Others for bargaining and trying to find closure and peace.
Some Q&A like asking WTF?
And of course denial and projection, using each other as mirrors and/or target practice.

Good job tinydancer keep it up
We'll get all our PTSD angst out on this thread, and hopefully leave it here.
The cheapest therapy you can find, free speech on the web.
You can verbally clobber someone legally and not have to resort to physical violence.
Pretty cool, let's rock and roll!

F

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

Hi tinydancer I don't read that in what he's saying, at all.
The same way you and I don't read Palin as saying she is excusing or trying to blame PTSD lightly for anything someone does.

Whatever you are reading into this that is upsetting you,
maybe that's why people are reading things into what Palin said that is upsetting them!

She touches on sensitive issues, I agree with you she would know more about where
her son has been coming from, and is going to be with him all the way through.

I don't disagree with you at all, so why are you cursing me?
Where are you getting that interpretation from?
The same place other people got all worked up over what Palin said
that neither you or I see that way either?

I think she was speaking realistically and so is this author.
Where's the conflict or the need to curse anyone out?

Because you put out an op ed from someone slamming Track.

Want to know why I take this oh so personally. Not from you. Not from you girl. I had two friends really really good dear friends from Myrtle Beach who got the call. Nam baby. My mom tried to save them. We got them back to Waterdown Ontario. In the end with my fathers input my friends knew they had to serve and Doug and Arthur went off to fight. Arthur came home ok. Doug didn't.

People don't talk rationally about PTSD. You can't You just cant. So I'm not going to slam Sarah for her take on her son. Because to this day I still still cry for my friend. His name is Doug.

Dear tinydancer
I didn't see him as slamming Track but talking about the same thing Sarah Palin
was and DEALING with his SITUATION. We are talking about correcting
the BEHAVIOR here, not insulting or attacking the people!

Sorry you see this as an attack.

I guess you demonstrate why people saw what she said as negative also.
How easy it is to read things into it
you see as unfair, insulting or wrong, and not what she is saying!

I agree, and say what you are angry about is not what I am saying either!
I think you are right to be mad, because you think the point
is to "slam Track or Sarah Palin" but it's not what I mean at all.

I support her in what she said as very positive.
And I see the same in what this author is saying.

Both are talking about PTSD and I don't see anyone as intending any personal attacks on anyone!
Sorry tinydancer but I'm not into any personal attacks here.
I totally support the positive things I see Palin and Mark both
saying about helping understand PTSD and not judging people.

I think they both spoke very well from their personal experience
so these do not contradict each other.

The issue is PTSD and they are both right in my eyes, they are both dealing with it in a positive environment
that allows for correction and healing.

From a poster I like

"**** Palin and her trashy brood.

There. That's my not so humble opinion."

Aye carumba.

Hate the mother. Son's got to be a piece of shit too.

And I like Gracie. Go figure.

 

[emilynghiem]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

close it. we can already see where it's headed. sheesh

I'm ready to bazooka barf Steph.

RE: What the hell are you people doing?

Looks like we're all using the internet for group therapy.
Some for venting in the anger phase.
Others for bargaining and trying to find closure and peace.
Some Q&A like asking WTF?
And of course denial and projection, using each other as mirrors and/or target practice.

Good job tinydancer keep it up
We'll get all our PTSD angst out on this thread, and hopefully leave it here.
The cheapest therapy you can find, free speech on the web.
You can verbally clobber someone legally and not have to resort to physical violence.
Pretty cool, let's rock and roll!

F

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

Hi tinydancer I don't read that in what he's saying, at all.
The same way you and I don't read Palin as saying she is excusing or trying to blame PTSD lightly for anything someone does.

Whatever you are reading into this that is upsetting you,
maybe that's why people are reading things into what Palin said that is upsetting them!

She touches on sensitive issues, I agree with you she would know more about where
her son has been coming from, and is going to be with him all the way through.

I don't disagree with you at all, so why are you cursing me?
Where are you getting that interpretation from?
The same place other people got all worked up over what Palin said
that neither you or I see that way either?

I think she was speaking realistically and so is this author.
Where's the conflict or the need to curse anyone out?

Because you put out an op ed from someone slamming Track.

Want to know why I take this oh so personally. Not from you. Not from you girl. I had two friends really really good dear friends from Myrtle Beach who got the call. Nam baby. My mom tried to save them. We got them back to Waterdown Ontario. In the end with my fathers input my friends knew they had to serve and Doug and Arthur went off to fight. Arthur came home ok. Doug didn't.

People don't talk rationally about PTSD. You can't You just cant. So I'm not going to slam Sarah for her take on her son. Because to this day I still still cry for my friend. His name is Doug.

Dear tinydancer
I didn't see him as slamming Track but talking about the same thing Sarah Palin
was and DEALING with his SITUATION. We are talking about correcting
the BEHAVIOR here, not insulting or attacking the people!

Sorry you see this as an attack.

I guess you demonstrate why people saw what she said as negative also.
How easy it is to read things into it
you see as unfair, insulting or wrong, and not what she is saying!

I agree, and say what you are angry about is not what I am saying either!
I think you are right to be mad, because you think the point
is to "slam Track or Sarah Palin" but it's not what I mean at all.

I support her in what she said as very positive.
And I see the same in what this author is saying.

Both are talking about PTSD and I don't see anyone as intending any personal attacks on anyone!
Sorry tinydancer but I'm not into any personal attacks here.
I totally support the positive things I see Palin and Mark both
saying about helping understand PTSD and not judging people.

I think they both spoke very well from their personal experience
so these do not contradict each other.

The issue is PTSD and they are both right in my eyes, they are both dealing with it in a positive environment
that allows for correction and healing.

From a poster I like

"**** Palin and her trashy brood.

There. That's my not so humble opinion."

Aye carumba.

Hate the mother. Son's got to be a piece of shit too.

And I like Gracie. Go figure.

wow tinydancer again you demonstrate what's going on and why

The point is to respect that each other is only expressing our own views and can't speak for others
So why jump on people, if we can only speak for ourselves anyway? Clearly since we don't even agree or see things the same at all

We can address where we agree or disagree vehemently
but still respect each other and even like each other:
no need to attack the whole person, exactly!

 

[Gracie]

Hate the mother. Son's got to be a piece of shit too.

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

 

[emilynghiem]

Hate the mother. Son's got to be a piece of shit too.

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

I think they are both as American as Apple Pie.
Even bruised apples that get overripe can still be used for pie.
Don't throw out the whole apple when it's still redeemable.

 

[tinydancer]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

close it. we can already see where it's headed. sheesh

I'm ready to bazooka barf Steph.

RE: What the hell are you people doing?

Looks like we're all using the internet for group therapy.
Some for venting in the anger phase.
Others for bargaining and trying to find closure and peace.
Some Q&A like asking WTF?
And of course denial and projection, using each other as mirrors and/or target practice.

Good job tinydancer keep it up
We'll get all our PTSD angst out on this thread, and hopefully leave it here.
The cheapest therapy you can find, free speech on the web.
You can verbally clobber someone legally and not have to resort to physical violence.
Pretty cool, let's rock and roll!

F

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

Hi tinydancer I don't read that in what he's saying, at all.
The same way you and I don't read Palin as saying she is excusing or trying to blame PTSD lightly for anything someone does.

Whatever you are reading into this that is upsetting you,
maybe that's why people are reading things into what Palin said that is upsetting them!

She touches on sensitive issues, I agree with you she would know more about where
her son has been coming from, and is going to be with him all the way through.

I don't disagree with you at all, so why are you cursing me?
Where are you getting that interpretation from?
The same place other people got all worked up over what Palin said
that neither you or I see that way either?

I think she was speaking realistically and so is this author.
Where's the conflict or the need to curse anyone out?

Because you put out an op ed from someone slamming Track.

Want to know why I take this oh so personally. Not from you. Not from you girl. I had two friends really really good dear friends from Myrtle Beach who got the call. Nam baby. My mom tried to save them. We got them back to Waterdown Ontario. In the end with my fathers input my friends knew they had to serve and Doug and Arthur went off to fight. Arthur came home ok. Doug didn't.

People don't talk rationally about PTSD. You can't You just cant. So I'm not going to slam Sarah for her take on her son. Because to this day I still still cry for my friend. His name is Doug.

Dear tinydancer
I didn't see him as slamming Track but talking about the same thing Sarah Palin
was and DEALING with his SITUATION. We are talking about correcting
the BEHAVIOR here, not insulting or attacking the people!

Sorry you see this as an attack.

I guess you demonstrate why people saw what she said as negative also.
How easy it is to read things into it
you see as unfair, insulting or wrong, and not what she is saying!

I agree, and say what you are angry about is not what I am saying either!
I think you are right to be mad, because you think the point
is to "slam Track or Sarah Palin" but it's not what I mean at all.

I support her in what she said as very positive.
And I see the same in what this author is saying.

Both are talking about PTSD and I don't see anyone as intending any personal attacks on anyone!
Sorry tinydancer but I'm not into any personal attacks here.
I totally support the positive things I see Palin and Mark both
saying about helping understand PTSD and not judging people.

I think they both spoke very well from their personal experience
so these do not contradict each other.

The issue is PTSD and they are both right in my eyes, they are both dealing with it in a positive environment
that allows for correction and healing.

From a poster I like

"**** Palin and her trashy brood.

There. That's my not so humble opinion."

Aye carumba.

Hate the mother. Son's got to be a piece of shit too.

And I like Gracie. Go figure.

wow tinydancer again you demonstrate what's going on and why

The point is to respect that each other is only expressing our own views and can't speak for others
So why jump on people, if we can only speak for ourselves anyway? Clearly since we don't even agree or see things the same at all

We can address where we agree or disagree vehemently
but still respect each other and even like each other:
no need to attack the whole person, exactly!

This guy can go **** himself. I'm not kidding. That so called ******* drunken brawl was because one sled team attacked another. It's not my bloody fault that MSM lied about it.

The brawl was about dog sledding. Todd is a major player. This asshole you put out there is judging a family that was jumped by another sled team. Read the letter. He slams the Palins as a family without even knowing what happened that night.

**** him. The guy you championed is an asshole.

 

[tinydancer]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

close it. we can already see where it's headed. sheesh

I'm ready to bazooka barf Steph.

RE: What the hell are you people doing?

Looks like we're all using the internet for group therapy.
Some for venting in the anger phase.
Others for bargaining and trying to find closure and peace.
Some Q&A like asking WTF?
And of course denial and projection, using each other as mirrors and/or target practice.

Good job tinydancer keep it up
We'll get all our PTSD angst out on this thread, and hopefully leave it here.
The cheapest therapy you can find, free speech on the web.
You can verbally clobber someone legally and not have to resort to physical violence.
Pretty cool, let's rock and roll!

F

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

Hi tinydancer I don't read that in what he's saying, at all.
The same way you and I don't read Palin as saying she is excusing or trying to blame PTSD lightly for anything someone does.

Whatever you are reading into this that is upsetting you,
maybe that's why people are reading things into what Palin said that is upsetting them!

She touches on sensitive issues, I agree with you she would know more about where
her son has been coming from, and is going to be with him all the way through.

I don't disagree with you at all, so why are you cursing me?
Where are you getting that interpretation from?
The same place other people got all worked up over what Palin said
that neither you or I see that way either?

I think she was speaking realistically and so is this author.
Where's the conflict or the need to curse anyone out?

Because you put out an op ed from someone slamming Track.

Want to know why I take this oh so personally. Not from you. Not from you girl. I had two friends really really good dear friends from Myrtle Beach who got the call. Nam baby. My mom tried to save them. We got them back to Waterdown Ontario. In the end with my fathers input my friends knew they had to serve and Doug and Arthur went off to fight. Arthur came home ok. Doug didn't.

People don't talk rationally about PTSD. You can't You just cant. So I'm not going to slam Sarah for her take on her son. Because to this day I still still cry for my friend. His name is Doug.

Dear tinydancer
I didn't see him as slamming Track but talking about the same thing Sarah Palin
was and DEALING with his SITUATION. We are talking about correcting
the BEHAVIOR here, not insulting or attacking the people!

Sorry you see this as an attack.

I guess you demonstrate why people saw what she said as negative also.
How easy it is to read things into it
you see as unfair, insulting or wrong, and not what she is saying!

I agree, and say what you are angry about is not what I am saying either!
I think you are right to be mad, because you think the point
is to "slam Track or Sarah Palin" but it's not what I mean at all.

I support her in what she said as very positive.
And I see the same in what this author is saying.

Both are talking about PTSD and I don't see anyone as intending any personal attacks on anyone!
Sorry tinydancer but I'm not into any personal attacks here.
I totally support the positive things I see Palin and Mark both
saying about helping understand PTSD and not judging people.

I think they both spoke very well from their personal experience
so these do not contradict each other.

The issue is PTSD and they are both right in my eyes, they are both dealing with it in a positive environment
that allows for correction and healing.

From a poster I like

"**** Palin and her trashy brood.

There. That's my not so humble opinion."

Aye carumba.

Hate the mother. Son's got to be a piece of shit too.

And I like Gracie. Go figure.

I smell a narcissistic personality disorder in the Palin family...

I smell a narcissistic personality disorder in the Palin family...

wow tinydancer again you demonstrate what's going on and why

The point is to respect that each other is only expressing our own views and can't speak for others
So why jump on people, if we can only speak for ourselves anyway? Clearly since we don't even agree or see things the same at all

We can address where we agree or disagree vehemently
but still respect each other and even like each other:
no need to attack the whole person, exactly!

This guy can go **** himself. I'm not kidding. That so called ******* drunken brawl was because one sled team attacked another. It's not my bloody fault that MSM lied about it.

The brawl was about dog sledding. Todd is a major player. This asshole you put out there is judging a family that was jumped by another sled team. Read the letter. He slams the Palins as a family without even knowing what happened that night.

**** him. The guy you championed is an asshole.

 

[emilynghiem]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?

close it. we can already see where it's headed. sheesh

I'm ready to bazooka barf Steph.

RE: What the hell are you people doing?

Looks like we're all using the internet for group therapy.
Some for venting in the anger phase.
Others for bargaining and trying to find closure and peace.
Some Q&A like asking WTF?
And of course denial and projection, using each other as mirrors and/or target practice.

Good job tinydancer keep it up
We'll get all our PTSD angst out on this thread, and hopefully leave it here.
The cheapest therapy you can find, free speech on the web.
You can verbally clobber someone legally and not have to resort to physical violence.
Pretty cool, let's rock and roll!

F

Hi tinydancer I don't read that in what he's saying, at all.
The same way you and I don't read Palin as saying she is excusing or trying to blame PTSD lightly for anything someone does.

Whatever you are reading into this that is upsetting you,
maybe that's why people are reading things into what Palin said that is upsetting them!

She touches on sensitive issues, I agree with you she would know more about where
her son has been coming from, and is going to be with him all the way through.

I don't disagree with you at all, so why are you cursing me?
Where are you getting that interpretation from?
The same place other people got all worked up over what Palin said
that neither you or I see that way either?

I think she was speaking realistically and so is this author.
Where's the conflict or the need to curse anyone out?

Because you put out an op ed from someone slamming Track.

Want to know why I take this oh so personally. Not from you. Not from you girl. I had two friends really really good dear friends from Myrtle Beach who got the call. Nam baby. My mom tried to save them. We got them back to Waterdown Ontario. In the end with my fathers input my friends knew they had to serve and Doug and Arthur went off to fight. Arthur came home ok. Doug didn't.

People don't talk rationally about PTSD. You can't You just cant. So I'm not going to slam Sarah for her take on her son. Because to this day I still still cry for my friend. His name is Doug.

Dear tinydancer
I didn't see him as slamming Track but talking about the same thing Sarah Palin
was and DEALING with his SITUATION. We are talking about correcting
the BEHAVIOR here, not insulting or attacking the people!

Sorry you see this as an attack.

I guess you demonstrate why people saw what she said as negative also.
How easy it is to read things into it
you see as unfair, insulting or wrong, and not what she is saying!

I agree, and say what you are angry about is not what I am saying either!
I think you are right to be mad, because you think the point
is to "slam Track or Sarah Palin" but it's not what I mean at all.

I support her in what she said as very positive.
And I see the same in what this author is saying.

Both are talking about PTSD and I don't see anyone as intending any personal attacks on anyone!
Sorry tinydancer but I'm not into any personal attacks here.
I totally support the positive things I see Palin and Mark both
saying about helping understand PTSD and not judging people.

I think they both spoke very well from their personal experience
so these do not contradict each other.

The issue is PTSD and they are both right in my eyes, they are both dealing with it in a positive environment
that allows for correction and healing.

From a poster I like

"**** Palin and her trashy brood.

There. That's my not so humble opinion."

Aye carumba.

Hate the mother. Son's got to be a piece of shit too.

And I like Gracie. Go figure.

I smell a narcissistic personality disorder in the Palin family...

I smell a narcissistic personality disorder in the Palin family...

wow tinydancer again you demonstrate what's going on and why

The point is to respect that each other is only expressing our own views and can't speak for others
So why jump on people, if we can only speak for ourselves anyway? Clearly since we don't even agree or see things the same at all

We can address where we agree or disagree vehemently
but still respect each other and even like each other:
no need to attack the whole person, exactly!

This guy can go **** himself. I'm not kidding. That so called ******* drunken brawl was because one sled team attacked another. It's not my bloody fault that MSM lied about it.

The brawl was about dog sledding. Todd is a major player. This asshole you put out there is judging a family that was jumped by another sled team. Read the letter. He slams the Palins as a family without even knowing what happened that night.

**** him. The guy you championed is an asshole.

Dear tinydancer

who sounds like more of a jerk
you who has cursed me out and others assuming we said or meant things
that I know I did not

or this writer who sounds like he speaks on the same level as Palin

I didn't hear her or anyone say anything ugly
but you come out cursing at people

if you are angry that's fine, just say it
but no need to blame other people for it
you have the right to your anger without having to justify that

You are trying to hard too explain it
No need for that
Your feelings are valid for you, and not the responsibility of others who have their own to deal with

 

[tinydancer]

Hate the mother. Son's got to be a piece of shit too.

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Surely you jest Gracie.

 

[tinydancer]

I am now so angry.

Look. Track obviously has issues.

But **** you emily for putting up a son of a ***** that has no idea whatsoever what is happening in this kids life. Whose this **** face to comment on Track. Oh and has Track been convicted of jack shit yet you mother fuckers. **** you carla too for mocking some ones mental state. You are a piece of work girl.

What the hell are you people doing?
I'm ready to bazooka barf Steph.

RE: What the hell are you people doing?

Looks like we're all using the internet for group therapy.
Some for venting in the anger phase.
Others for bargaining and trying to find closure and peace.
Some Q&A like asking WTF?
And of course denial and projection, using each other as mirrors and/or target practice.

Good job tinydancer keep it up
We'll get all our PTSD angst out on this thread, and hopefully leave it here.
The cheapest therapy you can find, free speech on the web.
You can verbally clobber someone legally and not have to resort to physical violence.
Pretty cool, let's rock and roll!

F

Because you put out an op ed from someone slamming Track.

Want to know why I take this oh so personally. Not from you. Not from you girl. I had two friends really really good dear friends from Myrtle Beach who got the call. Nam baby. My mom tried to save them. We got them back to Waterdown Ontario. In the end with my fathers input my friends knew they had to serve and Doug and Arthur went off to fight. Arthur came home ok. Doug didn't.

People don't talk rationally about PTSD. You can't You just cant. So I'm not going to slam Sarah for her take on her son. Because to this day I still still cry for my friend. His name is Doug.

Dear tinydancer
I didn't see him as slamming Track but talking about the same thing Sarah Palin
was and DEALING with his SITUATION. We are talking about correcting
the BEHAVIOR here, not insulting or attacking the people!

Sorry you see this as an attack.

I guess you demonstrate why people saw what she said as negative also.
How easy it is to read things into it
you see as unfair, insulting or wrong, and not what she is saying!

I agree, and say what you are angry about is not what I am saying either!
I think you are right to be mad, because you think the point
is to "slam Track or Sarah Palin" but it's not what I mean at all.

I support her in what she said as very positive.
And I see the same in what this author is saying.

Both are talking about PTSD and I don't see anyone as intending any personal attacks on anyone!
Sorry tinydancer but I'm not into any personal attacks here.
I totally support the positive things I see Palin and Mark both
saying about helping understand PTSD and not judging people.

I think they both spoke very well from their personal experience
so these do not contradict each other.

The issue is PTSD and they are both right in my eyes, they are both dealing with it in a positive environment
that allows for correction and healing.

From a poster I like

"**** Palin and her trashy brood.

There. That's my not so humble opinion."

Aye carumba.

Hate the mother. Son's got to be a piece of shit too.

And I like Gracie. Go figure.

I smell a narcissistic personality disorder in the Palin family...

I smell a narcissistic personality disorder in the Palin family...

wow tinydancer again you demonstrate what's going on and why

The point is to respect that each other is only expressing our own views and can't speak for others
So why jump on people, if we can only speak for ourselves anyway? Clearly since we don't even agree or see things the same at all

We can address where we agree or disagree vehemently
but still respect each other and even like each other:
no need to attack the whole person, exactly!

This guy can go **** himself. I'm not kidding. That so called ******* drunken brawl was because one sled team attacked another. It's not my bloody fault that MSM lied about it.

The brawl was about dog sledding. Todd is a major player. This asshole you put out there is judging a family that was jumped by another sled team. Read the letter. He slams the Palins as a family without even knowing what happened that night.

**** him. The guy you championed is an asshole.

Dear tinydancer

who sounds like more of a jerk
you who has cursed me out and others assuming we said or meant things
that I know I did not

or this writer who sounds like he speaks on the same level as Palin

I didn't hear her or anyone say anything ugly
but you come out cursing at people

if you are angry that's fine, just say it
but no need to blame other people for it
you have the right to your anger without having to justify that

You are trying to hard too explain it
No need for that
Your feelings are valid for you, and not the responsibility of others who have their own to deal with

Look You have this man in your OP buying completely in to the "drunken brawl" correct and slamming the Palins.

They were jumped by another dog sledding team. This is big money up there. The family got jumped and defended themselves. Nice and easy. I'm not trying to explain jack shit.

If you aren't city you would understand sledding like the Iditarod. But your guy in the OP is slamming the Palins for the fight. When it was the other sled team that attacked Todd.

So **** that shit when your so called OP guy goes after the Palins from the get go. So he can go **** himself. Because that asshole doesn't know squat.

 

[tinydancer]

Boy I've seen where people are ignorant tonight. Do you people understand sledding let alone the Iditarod?

This is what the brawl was about. Todd is a champ. Blood feuds go deep in the north.

 

[Stephanie]

You want to find sleaze from a political family. Take that Kennedy clan. Palin family has nothing like the sleaze that came from them.

rapist
murderers
drowner of women
drug addicts
but these same people screeching over Palin would turn a blinds eye to that Clan of sleaze balls.