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You have lost Christ though. You dont believe He is the Savior. You dont believe He conquored death as he was prophecied to do. Have you read the Bible? Im curious. How can you claim that you havent lost Jesus, Jacob, Abraham, Moses if you havent studied their teachings in the Bible? Why dont you believe Jesus is who He claimed to be? He claimed to be the Son of God. He is either who He claimed to be or He is a lunatic. You cant deny His claims to Divinity and then say you accept Him.
1) Islam denies the Trinity and that Christ is the Son of God, therefore, they deny the deity of Christ
1st about the trinity
There are too many verses which declare that there is only ONE God in existence and that He does not hold mankind responsible for the sin of any man. Examples of these verses are available to this day (e.g.
Isaiah 43:10-11,
Ezekiel 18:19-20, Deuteronomy 24:16...etc.).
the fathers of Jesus
Matthew 1:1
Holy bible
1A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham:
luke 3:23
23Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph,
Mark 1:1
1The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ, the Son of God.[a]
Footnotes:
a. Mark 1:1 Some manuscripts do not have the Son of God.
What does this footnotes mean how some script don’t have this verse is that mean contradiction or what we shall call it or it were between parentheses () and then become part from the bible when we said previous that what between () is from Editor ,, one person made it
Multi fathers,, what you call man have all of these fathers for a one mother
John's Gospel
Chapter 17
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
And add to this you said that Jesus claimed to be the son of Allah although the line age Matthew and Luke published,,,
Its in your bible which confess that Jesus was a prophet not the son of Allah
If he was the son of Allah ,, why Mary didn’t defend her self from the 1st time and said that he is the son of Allah ,,, no man have Touched mary ,, she were the example of continence ,, but if the new science could give birth for a child without father ,, is it hard for the God who create us all to make a human without a father
And I do believe in all prophet cause if you read the Qur'an you will see that all Muslims believe in all
prophets and
Abraham and Jacob and
Yusuf Luqman ,,,
Noah are prophets mentioned in Qur'an and others
And have a whole Sura with their name
And if you read the line age of our prophet muhammed PBUH you will see that his grandfather is Ishmaels the son of Abraham ,,,
2)
Christ said their would be no more prophets after him except for those sent by him. Since Islam denies the deity of Christ, Christ must not have sent Mohammed and therefore, Mohammed is, in my opinion, a false prophet
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As for Mohommad, he may have been inspired but I dont think he was a prophet. If he was I think his teaching were corrupted very quickly. Which really wouldnt surprise me considering the Koran, wasnt really written down till after his death. and then wasnt compiled till the caliphate of Uthman the Third Rightly Guided caliph. He compiled it because there were deviant versions of it going around. And I certainly dont think if Mohammad was a prophet he was the last one. Here is why
(what is ur clue of corruption ,, and tell me when did the bible written ,,, any way in those line you will find an answers for what you claim to say )
2nd you said ,,, that the prophet Muhammad PBUH is the false prophet
let me ask why
how could a man in the 40th of his life ,,, he was a trade man ,, he was famous with the honest the faithful who never lie ,,
did you see how he get out from his land after lots of humiliations and how many times they tried to kill him ,,
and how his message make the greatest civilization ,, in lots of places ,,
let me say a note ,, when Muslims were judging with Qur'an ,, they made a great civilization
in the same time Europe the Church was judging it ,, can you see how they live in Ignorance and ruins ,, if you read about this time ,, you will see that they were killing the scientist who had their study in Andalusia "Spain now" in this time it was an Islamic country full of Arab scientist and collages and great libraries it was the light of science in Europe ..
they killed it not cause they take their education in Arabs Country but cause they were judging with the bible they were saying that those scientist are Infidels ,, let me tell you something about this time ,, in this time the saints were separate the Paradise into partitions and buy it for people till when you die you can find your place their ,, do you know what does it mean ,,, it means that you can do every thing bad and make all kind of sins but you will go to heaven not hell ,,, it’s a disaster that mean that only rich people will go to the Heaven and poor will go to the hell,,
and they forbids the translation of the Qur'an in this period ,,, and who tried get the same fate,,Ex when Bog Nenos tried to translate the Qur'an to the Italian language in 1543 the church killed and burnt him,,,
and if we see the people who tried to translate the Qur'an in this period we will find them not from the Arabs,, they all tried to understand this new religion and this book without no use cause they get killed and burnt ,,
but now when they no more judging with the bible see how is their civilization and when Muslims let down their book the Qur'an see how they live in ????
how he could be a false prophet in the same time he believe in all previous prophets ,, how could he be a false prophet and he came with a miraculous Qur'an,, that every day when they know something new they found it pointed at the Qur'an,,
but really can I ask you something ,, now you said that we should only believe the fellow of Jesus and that he is the last prophet right
now here is a question ????
how could you know that the word of this man is from Jesus,, yeah because Jesus visit him in his dreams and give him some words ,,, so all what I should do as psychologists says that I think deeply in Jesus before I sleep ,, after this he will visit me in my dreams and give me some new verses I insert it in the bible,,,
by this you admit that the message of Jesus wasn’t complete or have some mistakes which need a correction ,, isn’t that shouldn’t be because Jesus is a god by his self ,, and God shouldn’t mistake or some one come to correct his word
there is another thing ,,,,
how you could believe ,,, no no let me say it in different way
there is a well your grandfather left it ,, then your father came and make a correction in it ,, and then you make a correction in it and then your son do the same thing ,,,,
and after all of these corrections your grandchildren still saying it’s the 1st well our big grand father came with it ,,
God has a method of communicating with men. He calls righteous men as Apostles and Prophets who He teaches His Great Plan of Happiness. They teach the people directly and by writing their witnesses down in scriptures for future generations. The people are then invited to go to the Lord and find out for themselves whether that message is true and when they have received their own witness of the Lord they are invited to follow the Gospel and share it with others.
God has been communicating with men that way since the time of Adam. There have been periods of time that men will not listen. but God has always been there communicating directly with men who had faith. He inspired them to do great things.
So the proposition that Mohammad would be the last and final prophet is illogical and contrary to everything God has done before. The proposition that God would wait till him to reveal the Koran which you believe is the ultimate revelation is also illogical. Why would He wait till that point in history? He could have simply given to Adam to pass down. Were those who came before Mohammad unworthy of the blessings of heaven
?
And who tell you this method ,, did you make it up ,, if you know the method of god then why you aren’t a god your self if you know the method of God ,, am not attacking you wallahy am just comment at this word ,,,
And did you found any one came after Muhammad PBUH and said am a prophet from Allah ,,,
Or you just believe Apostles of Jesus ,, so if Muhammad Said that he is from Apostles of Jesus and change or but some insertion in the bible you would believe him but because he said that he is a prophet from Allah you wont although Jesus was also a messenger from Allah,,,
And for the record Muhammad before he spread or know even that he should spread the message of Allah his people was calling him the honest and the faithfull cause he never lie and they were always seeking his advice and wisdom so he was a good guy who deserve to spread the message
Gepreil 1st sent to him while he was praying in Ghar Herra ,, in a very far place between the mountain ,,
11st he came in the angel shape not in the human shape ,, and talk him and hug him so strongly till PBUH thought it’s the death and told him to read,, imagine how he felt this time ,, alone in the mountain and Gepreil came to you (Gepreil the angel of Inspiration 'the spirit' )
and BPUH said I wont read
the second time hug him so strongly till PBUH thought it’s the death and told him to read
and BPUH said I wont read
and in the third time he told him what shall I read
he said
and it was the 1st verse in the Qur'an
sura 96. The Clot (or Read!)
READ in the name of your Lord Who creates,
* creates man from a clot!
*READ, for your Lord is most Generous;
* [it is He] Who teaches
by means of the pen,
** teaches man what he does not know.
* However man acts so arrogant,
* for he considers he is self-sufficient.
* Yet to your Lord will be the Return
this was to tell PBUH that his message isn’t easy and he sent to teach also
He could have simply given to Adam to pass down. Were those who came before Mohammad unworthy of the blessings of heaven
?
This is so easy question
Let me ask you what if you were the 1st human on this earth????
No envintions you don’t know how to deal
So Allah send his messengers one by one
Till it be easy for their creature
For example
1st they teach them what to do,, then how to do it
and why you sent to the earth ,, how to distinguish between right and wrong
he sent it step by step ,, did you got it
there is a verse which resign only in the Qur'an which confirm that Muhammad is the last prophet PBUH
Qur'an surat Al ma'eda verse 4
(Today I have perfected your religion for you, and completed My favor towards you, and have consented to grant you [Islam] as a religion: a commitment to live in peace.)
And I don’t think that its Mentioned in Bible
If what you are saying true why Jesus didn’t mention that his message is complete although he is a god by his self
Islam leaves alot of questions. How is it God cannot have a Son if He can do anything? You believe that God created the Heavens and the earth, but He can't have a child. How is this logical? You believe that God created all this and send Gabriel to Mohammad yet
you think that God cannot become a man and walk among His own creation. Why not
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How you can create any thing and at the same time you will be the father of him
Okay you could create a home from a stone ,, or an engineer will built it for you then when you bay him the money,, the engineer will come the next day and say give me back my home I create it and its my son,,
Would you believe it
Add to this that the God isn’t a human ,, how could the god gave birth a human ??????
And your theory of the god can move between his creature,,
Why would he need this ,, he can see us every where and in any place and he have angels to do this for him ,,
Or you didn’t hear about the story when Mosa wanted to see Allah ,, what happened to the mountain and Moses ,, we cant see god with our own eyes ,,
Did Jesus said that he saw Allah ,, although you claim that he is his father
Did any prophet said that he saw the God ,, or the God gave them the Message
I suppose thats more of a rhetorical question. I learned for myself that God does have as Son. His name is Jesus. I learned it the same way Peter did. The Lord revealed it to me. Who am I to deny God? in order to accept the Koran I would have to deny the Lord. I could never in honesty follow it. Not because I think Islam is bad, but because I found out for myself that the Gospel is true. I know it, God knows that I know it, I dont dare deny it. There is no where else I could go for such communion
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So you learned they teach you and put these things in your mind ,, why you don’t think away from what they …… Look out of the box
try to figure out every thing by your own ,,
what if you know was a lie and then the resurrection day was tomorrow ,, and Allah asked you why you didn’t follow my last messenger you will say cause they teach me that ,, he will say why you didn’t read search and work hard to figure the right from wrong
I have a problem with some aspects of Islam that force women to be second class citizens and withhold education for them. For this reason I would never become a muslum
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Who said so
For the record am a Muslim girl am 19 years old
And am in the faculty of computer science ,,,
Thanx to Allah my Grade is perfect I get A every years and my Drs preparing me to be from collage staff ,, and I may gain a scholarship
So where is the second class citizen you are talking about ,, it is just a myth people don’t know any thing about Islam saying that ,, if you are really concerned read these links ,, and am waiting for your comment sister
The Place of Women in Pure Islam
http://debate.domini.org/newton/womeng.html
WOMEN IN ISLAM VERSUS WOMEN IN THE
JUDAEO-CHRISTIAN TRADITION:
THE MYTH
&
THE REALITY
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/humanrelations/womeninislam/womeninjud_chr.html
Women in Islamic Culture
http://womenshistory.about.com/gi/d...it.arizona.edu/~ws/ws200/fall97/grp5/grp5.htm
to tell you something is their a chapter in the bible named by women ??
in the Qur'an there is a whole sura named by the women
sura 4 Women
Let me tell you some verses from the Qur'an
Sura 28 stories
http://isgkc.org/EnglishQuran/sura28.htm
Pharaoh had acted haughtily on earth and split his people into factions, seeking to weaken a group of them. He slaughtered their sons and let their women live; he was so depraved! ** Yet We wanted to endow those who were considered inferior on earth, and make them into leaders and make them [Our] heirs. * We established them on earth and showed Pharaoh and Haman as well as their troops how they should beware of them.
* We inspired Moses' mother [as follows]: "Nurse him. If you should fear for him, then cast him into the river. Do not fear nor feel sad; We will return him to you, and appoint him as a missionary."
When you read these verses from the 1st time you will say what the relation between these 2 verses
And you will say this book is so irrelevant
But if you think a little deeply you will see a great relation,,
It try to tell you that the rising of any nation begin with the women and children,,,
Then how you think this religion deal with the woman ,,,
The prophet Muhammad PBUH in his last khotba before his death ,, he asked his nation to takecare and pay attention to the women ,,
Could you imagine in his last khotba before his death ,, what do you think this religion deal with women
Sure this just a hint and if you want to know more you can read
Now to the bible
