Only 6 days left, here is where Trump stands in the race:

[Papageorgio]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

If I have to esplain it to you again, Lucy, you still won't admit it.

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

If I have to esplain it to you again, Lucy, you still won't admit it.

Not sure about your misspelled word or who Lucy is, but I don’t expect anything out of you and you haven’t disappointed.

 

[Maxdeath]

As the saying goes "citizens deserve the government they vote in".

Whatever happens, happens. I have my suspicions about what each candidate will mean for the future of the West. The youth in particular may wish they knew what they will know in 10 years, what they don't know today.

I think you're probably a regressive old man and that the youth will be just fine.

When Trump took over, the economy was on an upward trajectory for years straight, jobs were growing and unemployment was on a downward trend for years straight, as well.

Trump continued the same, and took all of the credit.

Biden will continue the same, and take all of the credit. Partisans will whine that the sky is falling...the sky will look like it's looked for Centuries.

You have to be kidding. The wages of Americans, like Canadians, was stuck in neutral, and in real money value, degressing.

America gained 6% in one year on wages in America! 6%! You have over $6000 more in the pockets of the Middle Class under Trump, you gained $500 in 8 years under Obama/Biden.

I think one has to have a personal vendetta to believe that Obamas economy was better than Trumps. Even while he doubled your debt, to bail out bad businesses and governments.

You prefer some under the table illegal immigrant work, your citizens high on poisons sent from China, low wage, min. wage jobs for those who are lucky enough to get them, rather than a thriving Middle Class.

Just wait until these new grads see their tech jobs outsourced to India and China. They will think twice, if they have a chance at that point.

I've seen enough of weak leadership for a long time to know, there are those who care and those who believe they are above the risks. Only one of them can be correct.

How many CIA and FBI today will be working for the enemy in a few years if the wrong government is in place? It will be a dream for the communists, they will recruit and decimate the very agencies who are too arrogant to understand the long term costs of weak leadership. They will be nothing more than political organizations. Impotent to the barrage they are going to face.

You're not very good with your analytics, here. Trump lowered federal taxes and it raised wages artificially because he took away State tax deductions and others, which hit the middle class especially hard in the high commerce States.

Also, Obama took over the Economy in the middle of a recession and Corporations, mine as well as many others, sought to mitigate the layoffs by freezing wages to compensate for the loss of wealth DUE TO THE RECESSION.

Both Obama AND Trump were mediocre on GDP growth. On trade deficit, Trump's went up.

On the cia and fbi blahblah, I don't care for your spooky regressive old man yells at cloud tales.

The USA is fine, and will be fine no matter who wins. Trump contributed personally to the outsourcing of jobs with his and his daughters' own businesses.

What the Trump tax plan did was to take away the subsidy the Federal Government was paying to high tax states by not allowing a deduction for state taxes. That was a good thing for all the responsible states, and a bad thing for tax and spend liberal states like NY and California.

Red States take more from the Federal Government than blue states do. I don't know that you knew that before opening your mouth about fiscally responsible States. Did you? The states most dependent on the Fed Gov't are New Mexico, Kentucky, Mississippi, West Virginia, Montana, Alaska, South Carolina, Indiana, Arizona & Wyoming. Those are the top ten.

Also, California is the State with the highest per-capita contribution to our GDP than any other State.

I get such a kick out of every idiot that posts this little pretend tidbit. They never take into account that the federal bases are a large portion of that GDP. If it were not for those bases there would be no need for or a great reduction of those that cater to those bases and their personnel.
when you take into account that California is over three Trillion in Debt. Their roads and other infrastructure are considered to be in some of the worst condition in the nation. Then you take into account the high speed rail that the federal and state government has poured money into that goes no where. Yeah it is beyond compare.

You can huff puff all you want to about it - the facts on federal assistance are facts, and facts don't care about your emotions.

I also wonder what % of the population of California you think the bases account for,

I'll give you a head start: there's only about 1.3 million active service members TOTAL - NATION-WIDE...

The population of California is about 40million, not accounting for illegals.

Lol. Still not good at reading and comprehension. Imagine that.

go have some one read and explain in small words.

You said, ahem, They never take into account that the federal bases are a large portion of that GDP

So my post was refuting that dumb bullshit, and this response of yours said nothing to the contrary. Right wing messageboarders never have anything.

Why is it that the left are so completely undereducated?
is it that they try to be or that they are completely incapable of concious thought?

I can tell you have never been in or around the military. Do you think that the buildings on a base just appear and self repair? Do you think that the food consumed on that base just shows up in some magic show? How about all the people required to run hospitals, repair roads, keep records, etc.? All just shows up by some hocus pocus.
Then you have those that deliver to the base. Or maybe you don’t think that people order anything on the base. You have people from other bases that transfer in and out. They like to go out to the bars. Buy food. Buy clothing. The Navel base in San Diego actually services numerous ships not just those assigned to the base.
i could continue but you wouldn’t understand

 

[Maxdeath]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

Hum guess you have somehow missed the fact that Biden was in politics for almost fifty years and has done nothing of any mention except to help add the word Bork to the English language.

Even if that fantasy were true, its still more than anything Trump has ever done in his life.

Yeah that’s quit a fantasy you have going for yourself.
Biden and other democrats called it xenophobic when air travel was restricted. You want to pretend that Biden would have done it sooner.
Trump has licensed his name to hundreds of products and services how many has Biden done? Tell us just how many pieces of legislation has Biden sponsored. He has co sponsored two that I know of.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

No he has SCIENCE and the example that TAIWAN has set in fighting this pandemic. Without a vaccine, TAIWAN has essentially defeated the Pandemic in their country.

Taiwan is one of the thinnest nations on Earth. Thin = healthy. Fat people are at much larger risk of getting COVID and we are the fattest developed nation. I have explained that to you countless times.

AGE not weight, is the biggest risk factor when it comes to Covid-19. TAIWAN is the older country. They have average age, median age, that is older than the United States average and median. TAIWAN also has greater proximity and exposure to China due to its extensive travel and economic links with China.

Plus, being FATTER simply means the United States needs to be even more serious about its policies on Covid-19 and follow TAIWAN's example instead of TRUMP's "who cares" policy.

It is weight.

I am sick of teaching you.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

You prove that its weight...and not age...by posting an article that says weight makes it more deadly and doesn't compare it...at all...to how age makes it more deadly...

And then boast that you're teaching somebody something?

Google is your friend. Numerous articles on it.

The data (not an article) shows that you're wrong. Not sure why you'd make something empirically wrong the hill you die on.

#internetdebates

Google is your friend. Want me to post more?

 

[Indeependent]

 

[G.T.]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

No he has SCIENCE and the example that TAIWAN has set in fighting this pandemic. Without a vaccine, TAIWAN has essentially defeated the Pandemic in their country.

Taiwan is one of the thinnest nations on Earth. Thin = healthy. Fat people are at much larger risk of getting COVID and we are the fattest developed nation. I have explained that to you countless times.

AGE not weight, is the biggest risk factor when it comes to Covid-19. TAIWAN is the older country. They have average age, median age, that is older than the United States average and median. TAIWAN also has greater proximity and exposure to China due to its extensive travel and economic links with China.

Plus, being FATTER simply means the United States needs to be even more serious about its policies on Covid-19 and follow TAIWAN's example instead of TRUMP's "who cares" policy.

It is weight.

I am sick of teaching you.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

You prove that its weight...and not age...by posting an article that says weight makes it more deadly and doesn't compare it...at all...to how age makes it more deadly...

And then boast that you're teaching somebody something?

Google is your friend. Numerous articles on it.

The data (not an article) shows that you're wrong. Not sure why you'd make something empirically wrong the hill you die on.

#internetdebates

Google is your friend. Want me to post more?

Your first one didn't say obesity was a greater risk factor than age.

A poster then showed you data which showed that age was the greater factor, and you responded with a threat of more articles.

The trump cult are verrrrry stupid. This is an example.

 

[G.T.]

As the saying goes "citizens deserve the government they vote in".

Whatever happens, happens. I have my suspicions about what each candidate will mean for the future of the West. The youth in particular may wish they knew what they will know in 10 years, what they don't know today.

I think you're probably a regressive old man and that the youth will be just fine.

When Trump took over, the economy was on an upward trajectory for years straight, jobs were growing and unemployment was on a downward trend for years straight, as well.

Trump continued the same, and took all of the credit.

Biden will continue the same, and take all of the credit. Partisans will whine that the sky is falling...the sky will look like it's looked for Centuries.

You have to be kidding. The wages of Americans, like Canadians, was stuck in neutral, and in real money value, degressing.

America gained 6% in one year on wages in America! 6%! You have over $6000 more in the pockets of the Middle Class under Trump, you gained $500 in 8 years under Obama/Biden.

I think one has to have a personal vendetta to believe that Obamas economy was better than Trumps. Even while he doubled your debt, to bail out bad businesses and governments.

You prefer some under the table illegal immigrant work, your citizens high on poisons sent from China, low wage, min. wage jobs for those who are lucky enough to get them, rather than a thriving Middle Class.

Just wait until these new grads see their tech jobs outsourced to India and China. They will think twice, if they have a chance at that point.

I've seen enough of weak leadership for a long time to know, there are those who care and those who believe they are above the risks. Only one of them can be correct.

How many CIA and FBI today will be working for the enemy in a few years if the wrong government is in place? It will be a dream for the communists, they will recruit and decimate the very agencies who are too arrogant to understand the long term costs of weak leadership. They will be nothing more than political organizations. Impotent to the barrage they are going to face.

You're not very good with your analytics, here. Trump lowered federal taxes and it raised wages artificially because he took away State tax deductions and others, which hit the middle class especially hard in the high commerce States.

Also, Obama took over the Economy in the middle of a recession and Corporations, mine as well as many others, sought to mitigate the layoffs by freezing wages to compensate for the loss of wealth DUE TO THE RECESSION.

Both Obama AND Trump were mediocre on GDP growth. On trade deficit, Trump's went up.

On the cia and fbi blahblah, I don't care for your spooky regressive old man yells at cloud tales.

The USA is fine, and will be fine no matter who wins. Trump contributed personally to the outsourcing of jobs with his and his daughters' own businesses.

What the Trump tax plan did was to take away the subsidy the Federal Government was paying to high tax states by not allowing a deduction for state taxes. That was a good thing for all the responsible states, and a bad thing for tax and spend liberal states like NY and California.

Red States take more from the Federal Government than blue states do. I don't know that you knew that before opening your mouth about fiscally responsible States. Did you? The states most dependent on the Fed Gov't are New Mexico, Kentucky, Mississippi, West Virginia, Montana, Alaska, South Carolina, Indiana, Arizona & Wyoming. Those are the top ten.

Also, California is the State with the highest per-capita contribution to our GDP than any other State.

I get such a kick out of every idiot that posts this little pretend tidbit. They never take into account that the federal bases are a large portion of that GDP. If it were not for those bases there would be no need for or a great reduction of those that cater to those bases and their personnel.
when you take into account that California is over three Trillion in Debt. Their roads and other infrastructure are considered to be in some of the worst condition in the nation. Then you take into account the high speed rail that the federal and state government has poured money into that goes no where. Yeah it is beyond compare.

You can huff puff all you want to about it - the facts on federal assistance are facts, and facts don't care about your emotions.

I also wonder what % of the population of California you think the bases account for,

I'll give you a head start: there's only about 1.3 million active service members TOTAL - NATION-WIDE...

The population of California is about 40million, not accounting for illegals.

Lol. Still not good at reading and comprehension. Imagine that.

go have some one read and explain in small words.

You said, ahem, They never take into account that the federal bases are a large portion of that GDP

So my post was refuting that dumb bullshit, and this response of yours said nothing to the contrary. Right wing messageboarders never have anything.

Why is it that the left are so completely undereducated?
is it that they try to be or that they are completely incapable of concious thought?

I can tell you have never been in or around the military. Do you think that the buildings on a base just appear and self repair? Do you think that the food consumed on that base just shows up in some magic show? How about all the people required to run hospitals, repair roads, keep records, etc.? All just shows up by some hocus pocus.
Then you have those that deliver to the base. Or maybe you don’t think that people order anything on the base. You have people from other bases that transfer in and out. They like to go out to the bars. Buy food. Buy clothing. The Navel base in San Diego actually services numerous ships not just those assigned to the base.
i could continue but you wouldn’t understand

That's a rant, dumbass, its not Data.

What told you....your feelings, or data?

Its looking closer to your feefees.

 

[Maxdeath]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

Biden claims another lockdown. How many people will that help stay off the streets and in their homes? How many businesses will be able to survive. How many will be on welfare because they have no job? How many companies will be allowed to keep manufacturing in China and even encouraged to do so?
The idea of removing fracking and oil will mean becoming dependent on other countries for our energy again how does that help? The so called green ideas can not meet our energy needs while just moving the environmental damage to other areas. Wind turbine blades need to be replaced but can’t be reused nor do the breakdown in land fills. Lithium is mined by creating environmental hazards.

The United States is at war with a virus. In a war, you use all the tools at your disposal to win it. A lockdown, had it been followed correctly and for the correct amount of time, would have put the United States in good position by now. Unfortunately, Trump failed to do anything. Followed semi-lockdown for 10 weeks. Just as it was starting to have an impact on the pandemic, he lifted restrictions allowing the virus to penetrate deeper into U.S. society. The American people and the economy are now suffering the consequences.

Every business and every household in a lockdown by the BIDEN administration will be given money for doing their part just as U.S. citizens were taken out of their jobs and homes in the 1940s sent overseas to fight in a war. They were adequately supplied and paid for their service. In a BIDEN lockdown, it will be the same, any Business that shuts and any household that stays put, will be funded, just as the United States funded nearly half the U.S. workforce that was sent overseas in the 1940s to fight the AXIS powers.

No country on earth is independent of oil from the Middle East. Any Business that refines petroleum to make gasoline or plastic buys whatever petroleum is cheep on the world market. Often the lowest price petroleum comes from the Persian Gulf. Refiners DON'T purchase supplies based on nationality, they purchase supplies based on price, cost, etc. Just because the graph shows the United States producing more oil than any country in the world does not mean refiners of petroleum no longer buy Saudi oil. Saudi oil is still purchased by some U.S. refiners and is still seen in the gasoline and plastic that is made in the United States.

Even a country like Brazil, where all the cars run on gasoline made from sugar cane, they are still impacted by Middle East oil, because Middle East oil impacts the price of goods around the world that are traded. You live in an interdependent global economy. There is no escape from that.

I get it you want a dictator. You want someone to lock you into your house refuse to let you out. Hand you money on the government credit card and only bitch about it if you think it helps your side.

We had idiots claiming Trump was a dictator.

Of course companies still Buy oil where ever they can. The thing is we sell oil just as the Saudis do. We could stop selling it buy all of our oil for fuel, roads, plastics etc. from the Middle East but does it help the U.S.? No it creates a dependency on another country. What happens if that country or countries decide to double or triple the price, or even stop selling to this country all together?

first off Brazil uses alcohol not gasoline. Our prices on oil and those of Russia and Venezuela all impact the price of Middle East oil just as much as theirs impacts ours or Russia or Venezuela.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

Anyone else feel that they are in the movie Groundhog Day?
Trump has no chance. Clinton 91%.
Clinton is picking out drapes for the White House.

Polls are so heavily weighted they are useless except as propaganda.
we have those that have the magic formulas that tell everyone that Biden will win, Trump is also going to win.

While it all comes down to the vote. Do you want jobs, and a life or do you want Harris and a failed economy.

Trump is Herbert Hoover at this point. The country just had its worst economic contraction in the 2nd quarter of this year in its 250 year history! A nearly 32% contraction in the 2nd quarter.

We haven't forgotten about the economy and if you want more of the same vote for Biden you'll get 10 times more than what it is now

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

No he has SCIENCE and the example that TAIWAN has set in fighting this pandemic. Without a vaccine, TAIWAN has essentially defeated the Pandemic in their country.

Taiwan is one of the thinnest nations on Earth. Thin = healthy. Fat people are at much larger risk of getting COVID and we are the fattest developed nation. I have explained that to you countless times.

AGE not weight, is the biggest risk factor when it comes to Covid-19. TAIWAN is the older country. They have average age, median age, that is older than the United States average and median. TAIWAN also has greater proximity and exposure to China due to its extensive travel and economic links with China.

Plus, being FATTER simply means the United States needs to be even more serious about its policies on Covid-19 and follow TAIWAN's example instead of TRUMP's "who cares" policy.

It is weight.

I am sick of teaching you.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

You prove that its weight...and not age...by posting an article that says weight makes it more deadly and doesn't compare it...at all...to how age makes it more deadly...

And then boast that you're teaching somebody something?

Google is your friend. Numerous articles on it.

The data (not an article) shows that you're wrong. Not sure why you'd make something empirically wrong the hill you die on.

#internetdebates

Google is your friend. Want me to post more?

Your first one didn't say obesity was a greater risk factor than age.

A poster then showed you data which showed that age was the greater factor, and you responded with a threat of more articles.

The trump cult are verrrrry stupid. This is an example.

Nope. It isn’t. Obesity kills more. Look at the countries that are most obese and then compare that with the COVID deaths and don’t be such a dick

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

No he has SCIENCE and the example that TAIWAN has set in fighting this pandemic. Without a vaccine, TAIWAN has essentially defeated the Pandemic in their country.

Taiwan is one of the thinnest nations on Earth. Thin = healthy. Fat people are at much larger risk of getting COVID and we are the fattest developed nation. I have explained that to you countless times.

AGE not weight, is the biggest risk factor when it comes to Covid-19. TAIWAN is the older country. They have average age, median age, that is older than the United States average and median. TAIWAN also has greater proximity and exposure to China due to its extensive travel and economic links with China.

Plus, being FATTER simply means the United States needs to be even more serious about its policies on Covid-19 and follow TAIWAN's example instead of TRUMP's "who cares" policy.

It is weight.

I am sick of teaching you.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

You prove that its weight...and not age...by posting an article that says weight makes it more deadly and doesn't compare it...at all...to how age makes it more deadly...

And then boast that you're teaching somebody something?

Google is your friend. Numerous articles on it.

The data (not an article) shows that you're wrong. Not sure why you'd make something empirically wrong the hill you die on.

#internetdebates

Google is your friend. Want me to post more?

Your first one didn't say obesity was a greater risk factor than age.

A poster then showed you data which showed that age was the greater factor, and you responded with a threat of more articles.

The trump cult are verrrrry stupid. This is an example.

Here you go bitch. You calling me stupid is laughable.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

 

[Maxdeath]

As the saying goes "citizens deserve the government they vote in".

Whatever happens, happens. I have my suspicions about what each candidate will mean for the future of the West. The youth in particular may wish they knew what they will know in 10 years, what they don't know today.

I think you're probably a regressive old man and that the youth will be just fine.

When Trump took over, the economy was on an upward trajectory for years straight, jobs were growing and unemployment was on a downward trend for years straight, as well.

Trump continued the same, and took all of the credit.

Biden will continue the same, and take all of the credit. Partisans will whine that the sky is falling...the sky will look like it's looked for Centuries.

You have to be kidding. The wages of Americans, like Canadians, was stuck in neutral, and in real money value, degressing.

America gained 6% in one year on wages in America! 6%! You have over $6000 more in the pockets of the Middle Class under Trump, you gained $500 in 8 years under Obama/Biden.

I think one has to have a personal vendetta to believe that Obamas economy was better than Trumps. Even while he doubled your debt, to bail out bad businesses and governments.

You prefer some under the table illegal immigrant work, your citizens high on poisons sent from China, low wage, min. wage jobs for those who are lucky enough to get them, rather than a thriving Middle Class.

Just wait until these new grads see their tech jobs outsourced to India and China. They will think twice, if they have a chance at that point.

I've seen enough of weak leadership for a long time to know, there are those who care and those who believe they are above the risks. Only one of them can be correct.

How many CIA and FBI today will be working for the enemy in a few years if the wrong government is in place? It will be a dream for the communists, they will recruit and decimate the very agencies who are too arrogant to understand the long term costs of weak leadership. They will be nothing more than political organizations. Impotent to the barrage they are going to face.

You're not very good with your analytics, here. Trump lowered federal taxes and it raised wages artificially because he took away State tax deductions and others, which hit the middle class especially hard in the high commerce States.

Also, Obama took over the Economy in the middle of a recession and Corporations, mine as well as many others, sought to mitigate the layoffs by freezing wages to compensate for the loss of wealth DUE TO THE RECESSION.

Both Obama AND Trump were mediocre on GDP growth. On trade deficit, Trump's went up.

On the cia and fbi blahblah, I don't care for your spooky regressive old man yells at cloud tales.

The USA is fine, and will be fine no matter who wins. Trump contributed personally to the outsourcing of jobs with his and his daughters' own businesses.

What the Trump tax plan did was to take away the subsidy the Federal Government was paying to high tax states by not allowing a deduction for state taxes. That was a good thing for all the responsible states, and a bad thing for tax and spend liberal states like NY and California.

Red States take more from the Federal Government than blue states do. I don't know that you knew that before opening your mouth about fiscally responsible States. Did you? The states most dependent on the Fed Gov't are New Mexico, Kentucky, Mississippi, West Virginia, Montana, Alaska, South Carolina, Indiana, Arizona & Wyoming. Those are the top ten.

Also, California is the State with the highest per-capita contribution to our GDP than any other State.

I get such a kick out of every idiot that posts this little pretend tidbit. They never take into account that the federal bases are a large portion of that GDP. If it were not for those bases there would be no need for or a great reduction of those that cater to those bases and their personnel.
when you take into account that California is over three Trillion in Debt. Their roads and other infrastructure are considered to be in some of the worst condition in the nation. Then you take into account the high speed rail that the federal and state government has poured money into that goes no where. Yeah it is beyond compare.

You can huff puff all you want to about it - the facts on federal assistance are facts, and facts don't care about your emotions.

I also wonder what % of the population of California you think the bases account for,

I'll give you a head start: there's only about 1.3 million active service members TOTAL - NATION-WIDE...

The population of California is about 40million, not accounting for illegals.

Lol. Still not good at reading and comprehension. Imagine that.

go have some one read and explain in small words.

You said, ahem, They never take into account that the federal bases are a large portion of that GDP

So my post was refuting that dumb bullshit, and this response of yours said nothing to the contrary. Right wing messageboarders never have anything.

Why is it that the left are so completely undereducated?
is it that they try to be or that they are completely incapable of concious thought?

I can tell you have never been in or around the military. Do you think that the buildings on a base just appear and self repair? Do you think that the food consumed on that base just shows up in some magic show? How about all the people required to run hospitals, repair roads, keep records, etc.? All just shows up by some hocus pocus.
Then you have those that deliver to the base. Or maybe you don’t think that people order anything on the base. You have people from other bases that transfer in and out. They like to go out to the bars. Buy food. Buy clothing. The Navel base in San Diego actually services numerous ships not just those assigned to the base.
i could continue but you wouldn’t understand

That's a rant, dumbass, its not Data.

What told you....your feelings, or data?

Its looking closer to your feefees.

Damn you just get dumber by the minute.

 

[G.T.]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

No he has SCIENCE and the example that TAIWAN has set in fighting this pandemic. Without a vaccine, TAIWAN has essentially defeated the Pandemic in their country.

Taiwan is one of the thinnest nations on Earth. Thin = healthy. Fat people are at much larger risk of getting COVID and we are the fattest developed nation. I have explained that to you countless times.

AGE not weight, is the biggest risk factor when it comes to Covid-19. TAIWAN is the older country. They have average age, median age, that is older than the United States average and median. TAIWAN also has greater proximity and exposure to China due to its extensive travel and economic links with China.

Plus, being FATTER simply means the United States needs to be even more serious about its policies on Covid-19 and follow TAIWAN's example instead of TRUMP's "who cares" policy.

It is weight.

I am sick of teaching you.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

You prove that its weight...and not age...by posting an article that says weight makes it more deadly and doesn't compare it...at all...to how age makes it more deadly...

And then boast that you're teaching somebody something?

Google is your friend. Numerous articles on it.

The data (not an article) shows that you're wrong. Not sure why you'd make something empirically wrong the hill you die on.

#internetdebates

Google is your friend. Want me to post more?

Your first one didn't say obesity was a greater risk factor than age.

A poster then showed you data which showed that age was the greater factor, and you responded with a threat of more articles.

The trump cult are verrrrry stupid. This is an example.

Nope. It isn’t. Obesity kills more. Look at the countries that are most obese and then compare that with the COVID deaths and don’t be such a dick

"Look at the countries that are more obese?"

Lol wtf is wrong with you. I can just look at the DATA and know you're wrong. Holy shit!

 

[G.T.]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

No he has SCIENCE and the example that TAIWAN has set in fighting this pandemic. Without a vaccine, TAIWAN has essentially defeated the Pandemic in their country.

Taiwan is one of the thinnest nations on Earth. Thin = healthy. Fat people are at much larger risk of getting COVID and we are the fattest developed nation. I have explained that to you countless times.

AGE not weight, is the biggest risk factor when it comes to Covid-19. TAIWAN is the older country. They have average age, median age, that is older than the United States average and median. TAIWAN also has greater proximity and exposure to China due to its extensive travel and economic links with China.

Plus, being FATTER simply means the United States needs to be even more serious about its policies on Covid-19 and follow TAIWAN's example instead of TRUMP's "who cares" policy.

It is weight.

I am sick of teaching you.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

You prove that its weight...and not age...by posting an article that says weight makes it more deadly and doesn't compare it...at all...to how age makes it more deadly...

And then boast that you're teaching somebody something?

Google is your friend. Numerous articles on it.

The data (not an article) shows that you're wrong. Not sure why you'd make something empirically wrong the hill you die on.

#internetdebates

Google is your friend. Want me to post more?

Your first one didn't say obesity was a greater risk factor than age.

A poster then showed you data which showed that age was the greater factor, and you responded with a threat of more articles.

The trump cult are verrrrry stupid. This is an example.

Here you go bitch. You calling me stupid is laughable.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

That's an article that says its more deadly if you are obese.

Than not obese.

Not than aged.

Again...what in the EXACT fuck is wrong with your brain?

 

[G.T.]

As the saying goes "citizens deserve the government they vote in".

Whatever happens, happens. I have my suspicions about what each candidate will mean for the future of the West. The youth in particular may wish they knew what they will know in 10 years, what they don't know today.

I think you're probably a regressive old man and that the youth will be just fine.

When Trump took over, the economy was on an upward trajectory for years straight, jobs were growing and unemployment was on a downward trend for years straight, as well.

Trump continued the same, and took all of the credit.

Biden will continue the same, and take all of the credit. Partisans will whine that the sky is falling...the sky will look like it's looked for Centuries.

You have to be kidding. The wages of Americans, like Canadians, was stuck in neutral, and in real money value, degressing.

America gained 6% in one year on wages in America! 6%! You have over $6000 more in the pockets of the Middle Class under Trump, you gained $500 in 8 years under Obama/Biden.

I think one has to have a personal vendetta to believe that Obamas economy was better than Trumps. Even while he doubled your debt, to bail out bad businesses and governments.

You prefer some under the table illegal immigrant work, your citizens high on poisons sent from China, low wage, min. wage jobs for those who are lucky enough to get them, rather than a thriving Middle Class.

Just wait until these new grads see their tech jobs outsourced to India and China. They will think twice, if they have a chance at that point.

I've seen enough of weak leadership for a long time to know, there are those who care and those who believe they are above the risks. Only one of them can be correct.

How many CIA and FBI today will be working for the enemy in a few years if the wrong government is in place? It will be a dream for the communists, they will recruit and decimate the very agencies who are too arrogant to understand the long term costs of weak leadership. They will be nothing more than political organizations. Impotent to the barrage they are going to face.

You're not very good with your analytics, here. Trump lowered federal taxes and it raised wages artificially because he took away State tax deductions and others, which hit the middle class especially hard in the high commerce States.

Also, Obama took over the Economy in the middle of a recession and Corporations, mine as well as many others, sought to mitigate the layoffs by freezing wages to compensate for the loss of wealth DUE TO THE RECESSION.

Both Obama AND Trump were mediocre on GDP growth. On trade deficit, Trump's went up.

On the cia and fbi blahblah, I don't care for your spooky regressive old man yells at cloud tales.

The USA is fine, and will be fine no matter who wins. Trump contributed personally to the outsourcing of jobs with his and his daughters' own businesses.

What the Trump tax plan did was to take away the subsidy the Federal Government was paying to high tax states by not allowing a deduction for state taxes. That was a good thing for all the responsible states, and a bad thing for tax and spend liberal states like NY and California.

Red States take more from the Federal Government than blue states do. I don't know that you knew that before opening your mouth about fiscally responsible States. Did you? The states most dependent on the Fed Gov't are New Mexico, Kentucky, Mississippi, West Virginia, Montana, Alaska, South Carolina, Indiana, Arizona & Wyoming. Those are the top ten.

Also, California is the State with the highest per-capita contribution to our GDP than any other State.

I get such a kick out of every idiot that posts this little pretend tidbit. They never take into account that the federal bases are a large portion of that GDP. If it were not for those bases there would be no need for or a great reduction of those that cater to those bases and their personnel.
when you take into account that California is over three Trillion in Debt. Their roads and other infrastructure are considered to be in some of the worst condition in the nation. Then you take into account the high speed rail that the federal and state government has poured money into that goes no where. Yeah it is beyond compare.

You can huff puff all you want to about it - the facts on federal assistance are facts, and facts don't care about your emotions.

I also wonder what % of the population of California you think the bases account for,

I'll give you a head start: there's only about 1.3 million active service members TOTAL - NATION-WIDE...

The population of California is about 40million, not accounting for illegals.

Lol. Still not good at reading and comprehension. Imagine that.

go have some one read and explain in small words.

You said, ahem, They never take into account that the federal bases are a large portion of that GDP

So my post was refuting that dumb bullshit, and this response of yours said nothing to the contrary. Right wing messageboarders never have anything.

Why is it that the left are so completely undereducated?
is it that they try to be or that they are completely incapable of concious thought?

I can tell you have never been in or around the military. Do you think that the buildings on a base just appear and self repair? Do you think that the food consumed on that base just shows up in some magic show? How about all the people required to run hospitals, repair roads, keep records, etc.? All just shows up by some hocus pocus.
Then you have those that deliver to the base. Or maybe you don’t think that people order anything on the base. You have people from other bases that transfer in and out. They like to go out to the bars. Buy food. Buy clothing. The Navel base in San Diego actually services numerous ships not just those assigned to the base.
i could continue but you wouldn’t understand

That's a rant, dumbass, its not Data.

What told you....your feelings, or data?

Its looking closer to your feefees.

Damn you just get dumber by the minute.

More feefees, no data.

 

[Indeependent]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

No he has SCIENCE and the example that TAIWAN has set in fighting this pandemic. Without a vaccine, TAIWAN has essentially defeated the Pandemic in their country.

Taiwan is one of the thinnest nations on Earth. Thin = healthy. Fat people are at much larger risk of getting COVID and we are the fattest developed nation. I have explained that to you countless times.

AGE not weight, is the biggest risk factor when it comes to Covid-19. TAIWAN is the older country. They have average age, median age, that is older than the United States average and median. TAIWAN also has greater proximity and exposure to China due to its extensive travel and economic links with China.

Plus, being FATTER simply means the United States needs to be even more serious about its policies on Covid-19 and follow TAIWAN's example instead of TRUMP's "who cares" policy.

It is weight.

I am sick of teaching you.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

You prove that its weight...and not age...by posting an article that says weight makes it more deadly and doesn't compare it...at all...to how age makes it more deadly...

And then boast that you're teaching somebody something?

Google is your friend. Numerous articles on it.

The data (not an article) shows that you're wrong. Not sure why you'd make something empirically wrong the hill you die on.

#internetdebates

Google is your friend. Want me to post more?

Your first one didn't say obesity was a greater risk factor than age.

A poster then showed you data which showed that age was the greater factor, and you responded with a threat of more articles.

The trump cult are verrrrry stupid. This is an example.

Age is not a factor because almost everyone over 60 with no pre-existing health condition got better.
Of course the Lame Stream Media scum won't report this.

 

[G.T.]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

No he has SCIENCE and the example that TAIWAN has set in fighting this pandemic. Without a vaccine, TAIWAN has essentially defeated the Pandemic in their country.

Taiwan is one of the thinnest nations on Earth. Thin = healthy. Fat people are at much larger risk of getting COVID and we are the fattest developed nation. I have explained that to you countless times.

AGE not weight, is the biggest risk factor when it comes to Covid-19. TAIWAN is the older country. They have average age, median age, that is older than the United States average and median. TAIWAN also has greater proximity and exposure to China due to its extensive travel and economic links with China.

Plus, being FATTER simply means the United States needs to be even more serious about its policies on Covid-19 and follow TAIWAN's example instead of TRUMP's "who cares" policy.

It is weight.

I am sick of teaching you.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

You prove that its weight...and not age...by posting an article that says weight makes it more deadly and doesn't compare it...at all...to how age makes it more deadly...

And then boast that you're teaching somebody something?

Google is your friend. Numerous articles on it.

The data (not an article) shows that you're wrong. Not sure why you'd make something empirically wrong the hill you die on.

#internetdebates

Google is your friend. Want me to post more?

Your first one didn't say obesity was a greater risk factor than age.

A poster then showed you data which showed that age was the greater factor, and you responded with a threat of more articles.

The trump cult are verrrrry stupid. This is an example.

Age is not a factor because almost everyone over 60 with no pre-existing health condition got better.
Of course the Lame Stream Media scum won't report this.

That's not data, that's your feelings.

Almost all people over 60 have preexisting conditions, too you dope.

 

[Maxdeath]

As the saying goes "citizens deserve the government they vote in".

Whatever happens, happens. I have my suspicions about what each candidate will mean for the future of the West. The youth in particular may wish they knew what they will know in 10 years, what they don't know today.

I think you're probably a regressive old man and that the youth will be just fine.

When Trump took over, the economy was on an upward trajectory for years straight, jobs were growing and unemployment was on a downward trend for years straight, as well.

Trump continued the same, and took all of the credit.

Biden will continue the same, and take all of the credit. Partisans will whine that the sky is falling...the sky will look like it's looked for Centuries.

You have to be kidding. The wages of Americans, like Canadians, was stuck in neutral, and in real money value, degressing.

America gained 6% in one year on wages in America! 6%! You have over $6000 more in the pockets of the Middle Class under Trump, you gained $500 in 8 years under Obama/Biden.

I think one has to have a personal vendetta to believe that Obamas economy was better than Trumps. Even while he doubled your debt, to bail out bad businesses and governments.

You prefer some under the table illegal immigrant work, your citizens high on poisons sent from China, low wage, min. wage jobs for those who are lucky enough to get them, rather than a thriving Middle Class.

Just wait until these new grads see their tech jobs outsourced to India and China. They will think twice, if they have a chance at that point.

I've seen enough of weak leadership for a long time to know, there are those who care and those who believe they are above the risks. Only one of them can be correct.

How many CIA and FBI today will be working for the enemy in a few years if the wrong government is in place? It will be a dream for the communists, they will recruit and decimate the very agencies who are too arrogant to understand the long term costs of weak leadership. They will be nothing more than political organizations. Impotent to the barrage they are going to face.

You're not very good with your analytics, here. Trump lowered federal taxes and it raised wages artificially because he took away State tax deductions and others, which hit the middle class especially hard in the high commerce States.

Also, Obama took over the Economy in the middle of a recession and Corporations, mine as well as many others, sought to mitigate the layoffs by freezing wages to compensate for the loss of wealth DUE TO THE RECESSION.

Both Obama AND Trump were mediocre on GDP growth. On trade deficit, Trump's went up.

On the cia and fbi blahblah, I don't care for your spooky regressive old man yells at cloud tales.

The USA is fine, and will be fine no matter who wins. Trump contributed personally to the outsourcing of jobs with his and his daughters' own businesses.

What the Trump tax plan did was to take away the subsidy the Federal Government was paying to high tax states by not allowing a deduction for state taxes. That was a good thing for all the responsible states, and a bad thing for tax and spend liberal states like NY and California.

Red States take more from the Federal Government than blue states do. I don't know that you knew that before opening your mouth about fiscally responsible States. Did you? The states most dependent on the Fed Gov't are New Mexico, Kentucky, Mississippi, West Virginia, Montana, Alaska, South Carolina, Indiana, Arizona & Wyoming. Those are the top ten.

Also, California is the State with the highest per-capita contribution to our GDP than any other State.

I get such a kick out of every idiot that posts this little pretend tidbit. They never take into account that the federal bases are a large portion of that GDP. If it were not for those bases there would be no need for or a great reduction of those that cater to those bases and their personnel.
when you take into account that California is over three Trillion in Debt. Their roads and other infrastructure are considered to be in some of the worst condition in the nation. Then you take into account the high speed rail that the federal and state government has poured money into that goes no where. Yeah it is beyond compare.

You can huff puff all you want to about it - the facts on federal assistance are facts, and facts don't care about your emotions.

I also wonder what % of the population of California you think the bases account for,

I'll give you a head start: there's only about 1.3 million active service members TOTAL - NATION-WIDE...

The population of California is about 40million, not accounting for illegals.

Lol. Still not good at reading and comprehension. Imagine that.

go have some one read and explain in small words.

You said, ahem, They never take into account that the federal bases are a large portion of that GDP

So my post was refuting that dumb bullshit, and this response of yours said nothing to the contrary. Right wing messageboarders never have anything.

Why is it that the left are so completely undereducated?
is it that they try to be or that they are completely incapable of concious thought?

I can tell you have never been in or around the military. Do you think that the buildings on a base just appear and self repair? Do you think that the food consumed on that base just shows up in some magic show? How about all the people required to run hospitals, repair roads, keep records, etc.? All just shows up by some hocus pocus.
Then you have those that deliver to the base. Or maybe you don’t think that people order anything on the base. You have people from other bases that transfer in and out. They like to go out to the bars. Buy food. Buy clothing. The Navel base in San Diego actually services numerous ships not just those assigned to the base.
i could continue but you wouldn’t understand

That's a rant, dumbass, its not Data.

What told you....your feelings, or data?

Its looking closer to your feefees.

Damn you just get dumber by the minute.

More feefees, no data.

So you want data on how military bases are constructed and run?
damn you really need to get an education. And stop posting like you are a two year old with nicknames for things. It just makes you look even dumber

 

[Maxdeath]

The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

No he has SCIENCE and the example that TAIWAN has set in fighting this pandemic. Without a vaccine, TAIWAN has essentially defeated the Pandemic in their country.

Taiwan is one of the thinnest nations on Earth. Thin = healthy. Fat people are at much larger risk of getting COVID and we are the fattest developed nation. I have explained that to you countless times.

AGE not weight, is the biggest risk factor when it comes to Covid-19. TAIWAN is the older country. They have average age, median age, that is older than the United States average and median. TAIWAN also has greater proximity and exposure to China due to its extensive travel and economic links with China.

Plus, being FATTER simply means the United States needs to be even more serious about its policies on Covid-19 and follow TAIWAN's example instead of TRUMP's "who cares" policy.

It is weight.

I am sick of teaching you.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

You prove that its weight...and not age...by posting an article that says weight makes it more deadly and doesn't compare it...at all...to how age makes it more deadly...

And then boast that you're teaching somebody something?

Google is your friend. Numerous articles on it.

The data (not an article) shows that you're wrong. Not sure why you'd make something empirically wrong the hill you die on.

#internetdebates

Google is your friend. Want me to post more?

Your first one didn't say obesity was a greater risk factor than age.

A poster then showed you data which showed that age was the greater factor, and you responded with a threat of more articles.

The trump cult are verrrrry stupid. This is an example.

Age is not a factor because almost everyone over 60 with no pre-existing health condition got better.
Of course the Lame Stream Media scum won't report this.

The idiot wants you to make up data like he does

 

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The black votes supporting Trump have doubled...
The Hispanic votes fro Trump have doubled..
Middle class workers have shifted to Trump by 8 points in the last week nation wide...

All things the RCP doesn't measure.... Who ya gonna Believe..????

REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner in 46 out of 50 states in 2016.
REAL CLEAR POLITICS correctly predicted the winner of the popular vote in 2016. It predicted Clinton would win the popular vote by 3.1% points and she won by 2.1% points.

So the RCP is very accurate.

So if it's accurate, what will it mean for America?

That's the real question. Not, "my horse is winning, weee". What does it mean for America if Biden wins vs if Trump wins?

It means hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved by a BIDEN who is willing to do everything in his power to defeat the pandemic. Following victory over the Pandemic, the country will be able to finally stand up again on good economic footing. Jobs and normal life return. The United States will then rebuild its alliances around the world, to undue the damage done by Trump, and finally push back against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

What does “everything within his power” mean? Does he have a secret formula? Is he like a superhero? Does he have a vaccine just sitting somewhere to release when he becomes president?

No he has SCIENCE and the example that TAIWAN has set in fighting this pandemic. Without a vaccine, TAIWAN has essentially defeated the Pandemic in their country.

Taiwan is one of the thinnest nations on Earth. Thin = healthy. Fat people are at much larger risk of getting COVID and we are the fattest developed nation. I have explained that to you countless times.

AGE not weight, is the biggest risk factor when it comes to Covid-19. TAIWAN is the older country. They have average age, median age, that is older than the United States average and median. TAIWAN also has greater proximity and exposure to China due to its extensive travel and economic links with China.

Plus, being FATTER simply means the United States needs to be even more serious about its policies on Covid-19 and follow TAIWAN's example instead of TRUMP's "who cares" policy.

It is weight.

I am sick of teaching you.

Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young

“The stickiest blood I’ve ever seen” and other weight-related factors worsen the coronavirus disease

www.sciencemag.org

You prove that its weight...and not age...by posting an article that says weight makes it more deadly and doesn't compare it...at all...to how age makes it more deadly...

And then boast that you're teaching somebody something?

Google is your friend. Numerous articles on it.

The data (not an article) shows that you're wrong. Not sure why you'd make something empirically wrong the hill you die on.

#internetdebates

Google is your friend. Want me to post more?

Your first one didn't say obesity was a greater risk factor than age.

A poster then showed you data which showed that age was the greater factor, and you responded with a threat of more articles.

The trump cult are verrrrry stupid. This is an example.

Age is not a factor because almost everyone over 60 with no pre-existing health condition got better.
Of course the Lame Stream Media scum won't report this.

That's not data, that's your feelings.

Almost all people over 60 have preexisting conditions, too you dope.

That's data from the hundreds of MDs and nurses I know from across our great nation.
It's called the Orthodox Jew Advantage.