One way the US could reduce it's debt

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Conservatives OR their policy is NEVER on the correct side of history. EVER

too stupid by 1000%!!!

Reagan wanted to destroy liberal communism while liberals spied for Stalin, gave him the bomb, and elected Obama.

Conservatives oppose the near genocide liberal welfare programs that destroyed the black family and sent most young black men to jail, and are quickly dragging our entire nation into deeper and deeper decline.

 

[Dad2three]

Its amazing how there is always money for the "defense" budget as well as intelligence, but the GOP always looks for cuts to SS, as well as opposing food stamps, an increase in the minimum wage, & on & on.

why is it amazing given the liberal social programs are crippling the nation and causing the decline. Republicans know work is the answer not more and more crippling welfare programs.

Imagine how dumb you must be not to know that?

False premises, distortions and LIES, the ONLY thing in right wingers tool box


"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives in order to limit government spending by cutting taxes in order to deprive the government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force the federal government to reduce spending.

Before his election as President, then-candidate Ronald Reagan foreshadowed the strategy during the 1980 US Presidential debates, saying "John Anderson tells us that first we've got to reduce spending before we can reduce taxes. Well, if you've got a kid that's extravagant, you can lecture him all you want to about his extravagance. Or you can cut his allowance and achieve the same end much quicker."

Starve the beast - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Dad2three]

It is budget day in Ireland, looking at taxation on ttobacco, alcohol and gas, if the US had similar levels of tax it would raise billions.


As of July 31, 2014, the U.S. is $17.6 trillion in debt.
United States National Debt

best way to reduce debt is to simply make it illegal. Republicans favor and liberals oppose.

Sure, that's why when Repukes get in office they blow up spending WHILE gutting revenues (see Ronnie, Bush, Bush)

Dear, why alwys play stupid? Republicans don't get in office. Republicans Democrats and Independents get in office and then they compromise. But, it is Republicans who have introduced 30 Balanced Budget Amendments since Jefferson's first and Democrats who have killed them all. What does that teach you,liberal?

You're an ignorant tool, who is insane?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

, early legislators granted very few corporate charters, and only after debate

too stupid by 1000%. Early corporations were govt created monopolies that were really extensions of the monarchy. Todays corporations are capitalist which means they are our slaves who live and die based only on their ability to please us with the best products and prices in the world that raise our standard of living at the fastest possible rate.

Only pure idiot brainwashed Marxists don't know their ABC'c

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You're an ignorant tool, who is insane?

Dear, why alwys play stupid? Republicans don't get in office. Republicans Democrats and Independents get in office and then they compromise. But, it is Republicans who have introduced 30 Balanced Budget Amendments since Jefferson's first and Democrats who have killed them all. What does that teach you,liberal

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives in order to limit government spending

yes dear and limited govt is exactly what Aristotle and our Founders wanted. Its what made us the greatest country in human history by far. Can you ask your kids to explain that to you?

 

[Dad2three]

, early legislators granted very few corporate charters, and only after debate

too stupid by 1000%. Early corporations were govt created monopolies that were really extensions of the monarchy. Todays corporations are capitalist which means they are our slaves who live and die based only on their ability to please us with the best products and prices in the world that raise our standard of living at the fastest possible rate.

Only pure idiot brainwashed Marxists don't know their ABC'c

Got it, you'll continue to be a moron

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Got it, you'll continue to be a moron

too stupid by 1000%. Early corporations were govt created monopolies that were really extensions of the monarchy. Todays corporations are capitalist which means they are our slaves who live and die based only on their ability to please us with the best products and prices in the world that raise our standard of living at the fastest possible rate.

Only pure idiot brainwashed Marxists don't know their ABC'c

 

[Rozman]

Great idea for here right?
Because we all know how we just aren't taxed enough.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Great idea for here right?
Because we all know how we just aren't taxed enough.

well perhaps the liberals will be satisfied with just more tax increase and one more jump in the size of the govt???

There is a great book called "Never Enough" on that very subject!!

 

[regent]

"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives in order to limit government spending

yes dear and limited govt is exactly what Aristotle and our Founders wanted. Its what made us the greatest country in human history by far. Can you ask your kids to explain that to you?

So maybe your kids can explain to you, slowly, why our founders that supposedly wanted limited government changed the government from one that was so limited it couldn't even tax, to a government, much stronger, with power to tax, make war, control commerce, and other powers too long to even list? Maybe the founders didn't want a government as limited as you portray?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Maybe the founders didn't want a government as limited as you portray?

way too stupid of course !! If so they would not have created and presided over a govt that was 1% the size of todays on an percapita inflation adjusted basis!!

 

[regent]

Maybe the founders didn't want a government as limited as you portray?

way too stupid of course !! If so they would not have created and presided over a govt that was 1% the size of todays on an percapita inflation adjusted basis!!

So why did the framers take a government with powers so limited they could not force the states to give them a dime even though the nation was at war, and then create a new government with powers so ample the nation still exists and is the leading power in the world? Add to that over the years even more powers has been given to the government.

 

[Politico]

It is budget day in Ireland, looking at taxation on ttobacco, alcohol and gas, if the US had similar levels of tax it would raise billions.


As of July 31, 2014, the U.S. is $17.6 trillion in debt.
United States National Debt

Simple way for America and Ireland to reduce their debt, Spend less than you freaking take in. Problem solved.

 

[DGS49]

The Founders envisioned a country much different from what we have today. The States were the predominant governments, with the national government was limited in its powers and scope, doing only those things that made sense for the group of mini-countries: print currency, establish a post office system, maintain an army and navy, manage patents and copyrights, and so on.

To limit the growth of the national government, they even prohibited income taxes, an innovation that did not come around until 1913 - and with considerable controversy.

The fundamental problem we have now is that we have two completely different views of what the National Government ought to be: Conservatives prefer the limited government envisioned by the Founders, and Liberals want a national government that has the power to do ANYTHING that they believe is a good idea, regardless of what the Constitution says.

And as George Will has pointed out many times, most Americans want a big, generous Federal government (like the Liberals), but only want to pay for a niggardly, minimalist Federal government (like the Conservatives).

Which cannot work.

 

[regent]

The Founders envisioned a country much different from what we have today. The States were the predominant governments, with the national government was limited in its powers and scope, doing only those things that made sense for the group of mini-countries: print currency, establish a post office system, maintain an army and navy, manage patents and copyrights, and so on.

To limit the growth of the national government, they even prohibited income taxes, an innovation that did not come around until 1913 - and with considerable controversy.

The fundamental problem we have now is that we have two completely different views of what the National Government ought to be: Conservatives prefer the limited government envisioned by the Founders, and Liberals want a national government that has the power to do ANYTHING that they believe is a good idea, regardless of what the Constitution says.

And as George Will has pointed out many times, most Americans want a big, generous Federal government (like the Liberals), but only want to pay for a niggardly, minimalist Federal government (like the Conservatives).

Which cannot work.

The founders had were not of one mind on the purpose or implementation of their new government and those differences led to political parties. The first income tax was found to be Constitutional, the second, unconstitutional. The bottom line, however, has government powers become more limited or less limited since 1789?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The bottom line, however, has government powers become more limited or less limited since 1789?

US govt power has obviously become less limited even as we have seen over and over again
(Hitler Stalin Mao come to mind) that central power does not work. Imagine how stupid we must be not to know what our founders knew even after seeing Hitler Stalin and Mao.

 

[regent]

It is budget day in Ireland, looking at taxation on ttobacco, alcohol and gas, if the US had similar levels of tax it would raise billions.


As of July 31, 2014, the U.S. is $17.6 trillion in debt.
United States National Debt

I have an even better idea. Let's not spend money we don't have! Wow, what a thought.

liberals oppose that idea I'm afriad. Republicans have always tried t make debt illegal but have always been defeated.

It is budget day in Ireland, looking at taxation on ttobacco, alcohol and gas, if the US had similar levels of tax it would raise billions.


As of July 31, 2014, the U.S. is $17.6 trillion in debt.
United States National Debt

I have an even better idea. Let's not spend money we don't have! Wow, what a thought.

liberals oppose that idea I'm afriad. Republicans have always tried t make debt illegal but have always been defeated.

Perhaps the Republicans are just inept at governing or their debt-screams are all a sham, sort of like their fifty or so votes to repeal Obama-care, knowing full well it won't work.
If Democrats could pay off the debt even once that should inspire Republicans to at least make a sincere effort instead of their usual dribble.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

If Democrats could pay off the debt even once that should inspire Republicans to at least make a sincere effort instead of their usual dribble.

deficits and debt would be illegal if libs had supported any of the 30 Republican Balanced Budget Amendments!!

 

[regent]

If Democrats could pay off the debt even once that should inspire Republicans to at least make a sincere effort instead of their usual dribble.

deficits and debt would be illegal if libs had supported any of the 30 Republican Balanced Budget Amendments!!

Yep, Republicans are great at the "ifs" of history if libs had only voted against Social Security we wouldn't have that problem today, if people voted for a Republican government the budget would be balanced today. Republicans don't just talking about balancing the budget when they actually balance the budget. ook at their history.

If Democrats could pay off the debt even once that should inspire Republicans to at least make a sincere effort instead of their usual dribble.

deficits and debt would be illegal if libs had supported any of the 30 Republican Balanced Budget Amendments!!

Instead of backing a Constitutional Amendment to prevent another FDR type president from running for a fifth or sixth term why didn't Republicans use that opportunity to pass a balanced budget amendment? Stranger, however, is how Republicans keep passing or supporting things thirty to fifty times with no hopes of passage. Isn't there some cliché about that type of behavior?
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