One State

[teddyearp]

What does a Hasbara propaganda map drawn in 2005 have to do with reality? The Palestine Mandate was applied to Trans-Jordanis, it was never part of Palestine. As per article 25 below.

That's funny. I saw that very same map carved (albeit crude) into an old prison wall in Jerusalem. Dude that carved it did so around the last couple years of the British Mandate.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[montelatici]

The Hasbara types post cartoon maps hoping to manipulate the useful idiots into thinking that somehow European colonists that intended to dispossess the native population of Palestine were somehow short changed because more land was not set aside for dispossession from the native people. How crazy is that? Then they apparently don't realize that there are real maps drawn in support of the various agreements contemporaneously, that demonstrate that maps drawn in 2005 by Hasbara types are, in fact, Hasbara maps. Either they are cretins to think that people with far more knowledge don't have access to the facts, or they hope to convince weak minded people that their cartoon maps actually present the facts. Now here is how the Allies divided the expectant spoils in 1916. Notice what constituted Palestine and what constituted the Arab areas A and B. This is not a cartoon map, it is the treaty map.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...kes_Picot_Agreement_Map_signed_8_May_1916.jpg

 

[rylah]

“The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny

"Entered Palestine." Indeed.

And where did the Hashemite kings establish Jordan?

In Trans-Jordania, formerly part of the Arab Kingdom of Syria, ruled by the Hashemites until it fell to the French forces that conquered Damascus. Not geographically or politically part of Palestine.

Sure it is, and Palestinian Arabs are officially self-proclaimed Syrians.

What does a Hasbara propaganda map drawn in 2005 have to do with reality? The Palestine Mandate was applied to Trans-Jordanis, it was never part of Palestine. As per article 25 below.

"In the territories lying between the Jordan and the eastern boundary of Palestine as ultimately determined, the Mandatory shall be entitled, with the consent of the Council of the League of Nations, to postpone or withhold application of such provisions of this mandate as he may consider inapplicable to the existing local conditions, and to make such provision for the administration of the territories as he may consider suitable to those conditions, provided that no action shall be taken which is inconsistent with the provisions of Articles 15, 16 and 18."

Jordan described here is the river Jordan, the eastern boundary of the British Mandate of Palestine was east to the river.

This map is correct for the years 1920-22:

 

[rylah]

The Hasbara types post cartoon maps hoping to manipulate the useful idiots into thinking that somehow European colonists that intended to dispossess the native population of Palestine were somehow short changed because more land was not set aside for dispossession from the native people. How crazy is that? Then they apparently don't realize that there are real maps drawn in support of the various agreements contemporaneously, that demonstrate that maps drawn in 2005 by Hasbara types are, in fact, Hasbara maps. Either they are cretins to think that people with far more knowledge don't have access to the facts, or they hope to convince weak minded people that their cartoon maps actually present the facts. Now here is how the Allies divided the expectant spoils in 1916. Notice what constituted Palestine and what constituted the Arab areas A and B. This is not a cartoon map, it is the treaty map.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...kes_Picot_Agreement_Map_signed_8_May_1916.jpg

Gotta love this jumping back and forth in time.
Tell me when did 1920 become 1916?

 

[Challenger]

This map is correct for the years 1920-22:

No it isn't.

The Emirate of Transjordania was established in March 1921, before that, and after July 1920 it was considered a no-man's land. the British siezed the opportunity provided by Abdullah ibn al-Hussein's declaration of sovereignty to add it to the British sphere as an autonomous emirate under the "protection" of the mandate authorities across the river in Palestine. We made several such arrangements in India during the Raj, there was nothing new or untoward about it.

 

[Roudy]

“The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny

"Entered Palestine." Indeed.

Indeed it is. The neighboring Arabs committed an illegal act of aggression and terror which caused the refugee crisis in the first place.

 

[Roudy]

The Hasbara types post cartoon maps hoping to manipulate the useful idiots into thinking that somehow European colonists that intended to dispossess the native population of Palestine were somehow short changed because more land was not set aside for dispossession from the native people. How crazy is that? Then they apparently don't realize that there are real maps drawn in support of the various agreements contemporaneously, that demonstrate that maps drawn in 2005 by Hasbara types are, in fact, Hasbara maps. Either they are cretins to think that people with far more knowledge don't have access to the facts, or they hope to convince weak minded people that their cartoon maps actually present the facts. Now here is how the Allies divided the expectant spoils in 1916. Notice what constituted Palestine and what constituted the Arab areas A and B. This is not a cartoon map, it is the treaty map.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...kes_Picot_Agreement_Map_signed_8_May_1916.jpg

Ya gotta love it. He calls wiki a Hasbara site and then posts an irrelvant map from said Hasbara site to prove a lie.

 

[Indeependent]

The Hasbara types post cartoon maps hoping to manipulate the useful idiots into thinking that somehow European colonists that intended to dispossess the native population of Palestine were somehow short changed because more land was not set aside for dispossession from the native people. How crazy is that? Then they apparently don't realize that there are real maps drawn in support of the various agreements contemporaneously, that demonstrate that maps drawn in 2005 by Hasbara types are, in fact, Hasbara maps. Either they are cretins to think that people with far more knowledge don't have access to the facts, or they hope to convince weak minded people that their cartoon maps actually present the facts. Now here is how the Allies divided the expectant spoils in 1916. Notice what constituted Palestine and what constituted the Arab areas A and B. This is not a cartoon map, it is the treaty map.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...kes_Picot_Agreement_Map_signed_8_May_1916.jpg

Ya gotta love it. He calls wiki a Hasbara site and then posts a map from said Hasbara site to prove a lie.

Let's all remind ourselves that Catholic Dogma relied for a millennia on Jews being rejected by God and forever exiled from Israel.

 

[P F Tinmore]

“The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny

"Entered Palestine." Indeed.

Indeed it is. The neighboring Arabs committed an illegal act of aggression and terror which caused the refugee crisis in the first place.

They entered Palestine but did not attack Palestine. Where is the aggression?

About 300,000 refugees were created before the Arab armies entered Palestine. How did the Arab armies cause that?

 

[Indeependent]

“The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny

"Entered Palestine." Indeed.

Indeed it is. The neighboring Arabs committed an illegal act of aggression and terror which caused the refugee crisis in the first place.

They entered Palestine but did not attack Palestine. Where is the aggression?

About 300,000 refugees were created before the Arab armies entered Palestine. How did the Arab armies cause that?

Please provide context.
You know...the thing you never do.

 

[P F Tinmore]

“The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny

"Entered Palestine." Indeed.

Indeed it is. The neighboring Arabs committed an illegal act of aggression and terror which caused the refugee crisis in the first place.

They entered Palestine but did not attack Palestine. Where is the aggression?

About 300,000 refugees were created before the Arab armies entered Palestine. How did the Arab armies cause that?

Please provide context.
You know...the thing you never do.

What do you mean? What do you want to know?

 

[Indeependent]

“The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny

"Entered Palestine." Indeed.

Indeed it is. The neighboring Arabs committed an illegal act of aggression and terror which caused the refugee crisis in the first place.

They entered Palestine but did not attack Palestine. Where is the aggression?

About 300,000 refugees were created before the Arab armies entered Palestine. How did the Arab armies cause that?

Please provide context.
You know...the thing you never do.

What do you mean? What do you want to know?

What scenario created these refugees?
You think your say so carries any weight?

 

[montelatici]

"Entered Palestine." Indeed.

Indeed it is. The neighboring Arabs committed an illegal act of aggression and terror which caused the refugee crisis in the first place.

They entered Palestine but did not attack Palestine. Where is the aggression?

About 300,000 refugees were created before the Arab armies entered Palestine. How did the Arab armies cause that?

Please provide context.
You know...the thing you never do.

What do you mean? What do you want to know?

What scenario created these refugees?
You think your say so carries any weight?

The invasion of Palestine by the European Jews supported by the British created the refugees.

 

[Roudy]

“The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny

"Entered Palestine." Indeed.

Indeed it is. The neighboring Arabs committed an illegal act of aggression and terror which caused the refugee crisis in the first place.

They entered Palestine but did not attack Palestine. Where is the aggression?

About 300,000 refugees were created before the Arab armies entered Palestine. How did the Arab armies cause that?

They told other Arabs to get out of the way or join them, and then "entered" Palestine with tanks and arms? Propaganda fail.

 

[Roudy]

"Entered Palestine." Indeed.

Indeed it is. The neighboring Arabs committed an illegal act of aggression and terror which caused the refugee crisis in the first place.

They entered Palestine but did not attack Palestine. Where is the aggression?

About 300,000 refugees were created before the Arab armies entered Palestine. How did the Arab armies cause that?

Please provide context.
You know...the thing you never do.

What do you mean? What do you want to know?

What scenario created these refugees?
You think your say so carries any weight?

The two Arab attacks on Israel in 48 and susequently in 67 created the refugees. The Palestinian refugees were created by the Arabs themselves.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Entered Palestine." Indeed.

Indeed it is. The neighboring Arabs committed an illegal act of aggression and terror which caused the refugee crisis in the first place.

They entered Palestine but did not attack Palestine. Where is the aggression?

About 300,000 refugees were created before the Arab armies entered Palestine. How did the Arab armies cause that?

Please provide context.
You know...the thing you never do.

What do you mean? What do you want to know?

What scenario created these refugees?
You think your say so carries any weight?

Zionist military attacking civilian Palestinian villages.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed it is. The neighboring Arabs committed an illegal act of aggression and terror which caused the refugee crisis in the first place.

They entered Palestine but did not attack Palestine. Where is the aggression?

About 300,000 refugees were created before the Arab armies entered Palestine. How did the Arab armies cause that?

Please provide context.
You know...the thing you never do.

What do you mean? What do you want to know?

What scenario created these refugees?
You think your say so carries any weight?

The two Arab attacks on Israel in 48 and susequently in 67 created the refugees. The Palestinian refugees were created by the Arabs themselves.

The two Arab attacks on Israel in 48

Do you have any proof for that attack in 1948?

 

[montelatici]

Indeed it is. The neighboring Arabs committed an illegal act of aggression and terror which caused the refugee crisis in the first place.

They entered Palestine but did not attack Palestine. Where is the aggression?

About 300,000 refugees were created before the Arab armies entered Palestine. How did the Arab armies cause that?

Please provide context.
You know...the thing you never do.

What do you mean? What do you want to know?

What scenario created these refugees?
You think your say so carries any weight?

The two Arab attacks on Israel in 48 and susequently in 67 created the refugees. The Palestinian refugees were created by the Arabs themselves.

There was no Arab attack on Israel in 1948 or 1967. In 1948, the Arab League forces never entered the Jewish partition. The Jews, on the other hand, entered and conquered towns and cities long before the Arab League intervened and tried to stop the ethnic cleansing of non-Jews from areas they coveted in the Arab partition.

In 1967, the Israelis attacked, not the Arabs.

"Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis— contrary to their claims—had fired first.) President Johnson was gratified that because of CIA analyses and Helms's tip, he could inform congressional leaders later in the day that he had been expecting Israel's move."

CIA Analysis of the 1967 Arab-Israeli War — Central Intelligence Agency

 

[Indeependent]

They entered Palestine but did not attack Palestine. Where is the aggression?

About 300,000 refugees were created before the Arab armies entered Palestine. How did the Arab armies cause that?

Please provide context.
You know...the thing you never do.

What do you mean? What do you want to know?

What scenario created these refugees?
You think your say so carries any weight?

The two Arab attacks on Israel in 48 and susequently in 67 created the refugees. The Palestinian refugees were created by the Arabs themselves.

The two Arab attacks on Israel in 48

Do you have any proof for that attack in 1948?

The whole Internet minus Arab revisionist web sites.
We went through this not 2 weeks ago.