One simple question for MAGA. Do you support Trump's support for Putin in the Ukraine Situation?

[Billiejeens]

The people in power "affirming" their own legitimacy is not how democracy works. You know that.

You'd get more respect if you be honest for once.

No chance

 

[Billiejeens]

They still are a Democracy.

Ukrainian parliament affirms Zelenskyy's legitimacy​

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/25/ukrainian-parliament-affirms-zelenskyys-legitimacy
It was the war that forced the martial law to occur. That is a normal thing when a war is occurring. Steps need to be taken to defend the nation when at war, and martial law is what is REQUIRED. You do not change a ruler by vote when the ruler has been successful in maintaining the freedom of the country.

Be real, for once.

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[MayorQuimby]

I brought up the analogy and now I’m dropping it, since you insist on making the agressor the good guy or at least someone we can work with. Chamberlain thought so too.

I am pretty sure the aggressor is NATO.

 

[konradv]

I am pretty sure the aggressor is NATO.

Ruzzian stooge ^^^

 

[konradv]

Your feelz are irrelevant. This is about saving democracy. Please, try and keep up!

 

[MayorQuimby]

Ruzzian stooge ^^^

When you talk like that, it makes a rational discussion impossible.

 

[konradv]

I am part of MAGA. We are the ones that Zelinski needed if he wanted a realistic chance of spending ukrainian lives to get his lost lands back.

I was not prepared to see that many people die, so that he could get land back. Neither was Trump.


That is my stake in it, and that is valid. Would you like to address that, or would you like to pivot to an unrelated point to try to distract from how reasonable I am?

Your feelz are irrelevant. This is about saving democracy. Please, try and keep up!

 

[konradv]

1. I have not made the aggressor the "good guy". That was a dumb thing to say. Why did you say itt?

2. You made a point that we own Zelinski unqualified support. I made a valid counterpoint. YOu failed to address it. Are you conceeding that point?

You’re an apologist for evil, if you see any equivalency in the two sides.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Your feelz are irrelevant. This is about saving democracy. Please, try and keep up!

Like when Harris, Biden, Obama and the MSM were saying that in 2024? LOL!

 

[konradv]

And you are a fucking retard.

Isn’t the ‘r’ word verboten?!

 

[Luckyone]

The people in power "affirming" their own legitimacy is not how democracy works. You know that.

You'd get more respect if you be honest for once.

You know Seymour, you would stop looking as a fool if you actually bothered to do some research before you open your mouth. You are even looking like more of a fool by accusing someone of being dishonest, when he is not guilty of doing that.

Explainer: Conducting elections during war​

Historically, conducting elections during wartime has been a rare and complex endeavor. While some countries have managed to hold elections despite active conflicts, most have chosen to postpone elections until conditions allow for a free, fair, and secure electoral process.

The key challenges include security risks, displacement of voters, limited access to polling stations, and the inability to guarantee democratic standards such as political competition, media freedom, and independent oversight. Conducting elections in war-contested territories requires first determining the boundaries of the territory and defining the eligible electorate to ensure a legitimate and credible electoral process.

Who is now looking like an idiot?

 

[Billiejeens]

Isn’t the ‘r’ word verboten?!

Not in your case.

 

[Lesh]

Trump has Putin discussing the end of that war. How much time should Trump have to get it done? How long did Biden fail to achieve peace? I bet Trump gets this done in a fraction of that time.

Putin talks about ending the war all the time.

With the defeat of Ukraine

Same as Trump

 

[Luckyone]

It's not working for what Zelenskyy insists on, which is Russia completely out of Ukraine.

??? what a "stupid" remark. Not worth an answer.

Wrong. The war would have lasted 3 days if Donald Trump had not overturned Obama-Biden policy of only sending non-lethal aid like blankets. The arms that Trump provided them saved them from the Russian version of a Blitzkrieg.

You better come up with a link that expressly supports your words. It is my understanding that Congress is the one that approves (or not) funding of arms and aid to allies. Not the president. This has always been the case, for decades. Obama did not change that.

Congressionally Approved Ukraine Aid Totals $175 Billion​

With the recent passage of the national security supplementals, Congress has now approved nearly $175 billion of aid and military assistance to support the Ukrainian government and allied nations two years after Russia launched its invasion.

We've lot an exorbitant amount of money also.

It's been more than two years. What is your time line and cost estimate for that plan?

Even if what you say is true - which it is not - you have not explained why the American taxpayer should foot the bill.

I have covered this on this OP many times. This is NOT about money, it is about freedom.

Let me ask you a simple question. How much is your life worth to you? Does it have a money limit?

 

[konradv]

??? what a "stupid" remark. Not worth an answer.


You better come up with a link that expressly supports your words. It is my understanding that Congress is the one that approves (or not) funding of arms and aid to allies. Not the president. This has always been the case, for decades. Obama did not change that.

Congressionally Approved Ukraine Aid Totals $175 Billion​

With the recent passage of the national security supplementals, Congress has now approved nearly $175 billion of aid and military assistance to support the Ukrainian government and allied nations two years after Russia launched its invasion.


I have covered this on this OP many times. This is NOT about money, it is about freedom.

Let me ask you a simple question. How much is your life worth to you? Does it have a money limit?

It’s also not about money, because we’re sending surplus equipment that’s going to be mothballed, destroyed or sold, anyway. It’s actually a cost savings to give surplus supplies away instead of storing them.

 

[MarathonMike]

Tons o' spin on the way.

All of the "spin" comes from the Trump Hater Cult. How do negotiate an end to this brutal war without engaging the Sociopath Putin? I've never seen such a bunch of smart idiots as the THC.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This is NOT about money, it is about freedom.

Let me ask you a simple question. How much is your life worth to you?

How much are you willing to kick in for Ukraine's freedom?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It’s also not about money, because we’re sending surplus equipment that’s going to be mothballed, destroyed or sold, anyway.

Really?

Every missile/rocket/MLRS/shell we sent was just sitting around?

After we sent them, we still had a full inventory of the good stuff?

 

[Seymour Flops]

You know Seymour, you would stop looking as a fool if you actually bothered to do some research before you open your mouth. You are even looking like more of a fool by accusing someone of being dishonest, when he is not guilty of doing that.

Explainer: Conducting elections during war​

Historically, conducting elections during wartime has been a rare and complex endeavor. While some countries have managed to hold elections despite active conflicts, most have chosen to postpone elections until conditions allow for a free, fair, and secure electoral process.

The key challenges include security risks, displacement of voters, limited access to polling stations, and the inability to guarantee democratic standards such as political competition, media freedom, and independent oversight. Conducting elections in war-contested territories requires first determining the boundaries of the territory and defining the eligible electorate to ensure a legitimate and credible electoral process.

What website is that, that I'm supposed to forget all facts after reading? I never heard of it. "idea.int" "explainer?" Sounds like a website for the completely ignorant wanting to stay ignorant but have links to show that others are as ignorant as they are.

The United States has fought several wars since the Constitution was ratified, and we haven't missed an election yet. Not even during the Civil War, when we were literally tearing ourselves apart. Lincoln knew that if he cancelled elections, it would only add credence to the Confederacy's claim that he was a dictator.

Fine if you want to support a dictator. Allah knows we have supported them before. But be honest, as to why.

Who is now looking like an idiot?

You.

??? what a "stupid" remark. Not worth an answer.

Because you cannot answer.

You better come up with a link that expressly supports your words. It is my understanding that Congress is the one that approves (or not) funding of arms and aid to allies. Not the president. This has always been the case, for decades. Obama did not change that.

They authorize the aid. They have no power to force the executive to spend it in a particular way, or under a particular deadline. Not unless they are explicit about that in the spending bill and the president signs off on it.

President Trump is not the first president to withold funding:

Supreme Court won't stop Biden administration from withholding Title X funding from Oklahoma

Oklahoma officials had asked the Supreme Court to temporarily prohibit the Department of Health and Human Services from stripping the Oklahoma State Department of Health of $4.5 million in federal Title X funding.

www.cbsnews.com

Obama to schools: Change or miss out on cash

Using the promise of $4 billion in federal aid — and the threat of withholding it — President Barack Obama hopes to strong-arm schools into embracing reform.

www.nbcnews.com

Congressionally Approved Ukraine Aid Totals $175 Billion​

With the recent passage of the national security supplementals, Congress has now approved nearly $175 billion of aid and military assistance to support the Ukrainian government and allied nations two years after Russia launched its invasion.

Trump is right to stop more money from going down that rathole.

I have covered this on this OP many times. This is NOT about money, it is about freedom.

Then let's stop sending money.

Let me ask you a simple question. How much is your life worth to you? Does it have a money limit?

No, but that is a false choice that has nothing to do with the situation at hand.

When you buy a car and the salesman says "sure, this new safety feature would quadruple the cost of your car and make it use three times as much gas, but how much is your life worth to you?" do you fall for it?

 

[Luckyone]

What website is that, that I'm supposed to forget all facts after reading? I never heard of it. "idea.int" "explainer?" Sounds like a website for the completely ignorant wanting to stay ignorant but have links to show that others are as ignorant as they are.

Show me some data or information that negates what they say. If what thy are saying is wrong, you should know of a website that gives the correct information, no?

The United States has fought several wars since the Constitution was ratified, and we haven't missed an election yet. Not even during the Civil War, when we were literally tearing ourselves apart. Lincoln knew that if he cancelled elections, it would only add credence to the Confederacy's claim that he was a dictator.

War where the nation is getting hit is a situation that is a game changer. If you cannot understand that, then you cannot understand anything and that makes you someone not worth talking to.

Prove your point, if you can. Stop trying to convince people through words. Only total idiots or conmen do that.

Fine if you want to support a dictator. Allah knows we have supported them before. But be honest, as to why.

Wow, what a question coming from someone that is supporting 2 dictators............Trump and Putin.

You.


Because you cannot answer.

I can answer. You are just not worth the effort

They authorize the aid. They have no power to force the executive to spend it in a particular way, or under a particular deadline. Not unless they are explicit about that in the spending bill and the president signs off on it.

President Trump is not the first president to withold funding:

Supreme Court won't stop Biden administration from withholding Title X funding from Oklahoma

Oklahoma officials had asked the Supreme Court to temporarily prohibit the Department of Health and Human Services from stripping the Oklahoma State Department of Health of $4.5 million in federal Title X funding.

www.cbsnews.com

Obama to schools: Change or miss out on cash

Using the promise of $4 billion in federal aid — and the threat of withholding it — President Barack Obama hopes to strong-arm schools into embracing reform.

www.nbcnews.com

When there is a valid and positive reason for withholding funds, it is supported

From your link, saying what Obama was attempting to do:

"to strong-arm the education establishment to accept more charter schools and performance pay for teachers".

What is the reason Trump is withholding funds and how is he doing it?

Trump is right to stop more money from going down that rathole.

Then let's stop sending money.

No, but that is a false choice that has nothing to do with the situation at hand.

When you buy a car and the salesman says "sure, this new safety feature would quadruple the cost of your car and make it use three times as much gas, but how much is your life worth to you?" do you fall for it?

Oh sorry, I forgot that with you, this is God