One of the biggest arguments people have about our healthcare system is the illusion of “choice”

[gipper]

That is silly, because there is nothing remotely totalitarian about public health care.
Socialism does not mean you can't buy private insurance or health care, but just that public health care would be made available for free or very inexpensive.
We know what it is like, because almost every country in the world has socialized medicine, and it works much better than what we have.
We are ranked 37 which is very low.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-in-the-world/

So if there is nothing remotely totalitarian about universal health care, what if I want to opt out and not pay for your free shit? I assume that's an option.

No that is not an option because all humans in a human society do have an obligation to the health and welfare of all other humans in the society.

That's not what the constitution says. Oh you are talking about the communist manifesto, yes according to that document we are responsible for providing free shit for morons indeed.

Haul your ass out of our country, anti-American bigot.

Wrong.
The constitution says we all have the right to life, and that can't be defended unless we then all have equal access to health care.
Not being allowed access to health care means you die if you get sick or injured.
That essentially is murder.

No, the constitution is not a Marxist document. That's not what it says.

Go back to your communist hell hole, we don't want you here.

You need to wake up. The government is not abiding by the constitution. It violates it every day and has done so for decades.

So, the dumb argument that it’s not in the constitution, is meaningless.

 

[fncceo]

because all humans in a human society do have an obligation to the health and welfare of all other humans in the society

Where is that written?

It’s common sense, but some like you don’t have any.

Where in The Constitution does it say I'm obligated to pay for someone else's health care?

 

[Norman]

So if there is nothing remotely totalitarian about universal health care, what if I want to opt out and not pay for your free shit? I assume that's an option.

No that is not an option because all humans in a human society do have an obligation to the health and welfare of all other humans in the society.

That's not what the constitution says. Oh you are talking about the communist manifesto, yes according to that document we are responsible for providing free shit for morons indeed.

Haul your ass out of our country, anti-American bigot.

Wrong.
The constitution says we all have the right to life, and that can't be defended unless we then all have equal access to health care.
Not being allowed access to health care means you die if you get sick or injured.
That essentially is murder.

No, the constitution is not a Marxist document. That's not what it says.

Go back to your communist hell hole, we don't want you here.

You need to wake up. The government is not abiding by the constitution. It violates it every day and has done so for decades.

So, the dumb argument that it’s not in the constitution, is meaningless.

And the way to fix that is NOT to add one more item to the list of violations.

Or to vote for a socialist who prefers the soviet constitution for that matter. Which is also what you prefer, why not just admit it, pull of the mask and reveal your true self.

 

[gipper]

because all humans in a human society do have an obligation to the health and welfare of all other humans in the society

Where is that written?

It’s common sense, but some like you don’t have any.

Where in The Constitution does it say I'm obligated to pay for someone else's health care?

LOL. Don’t be silly. Please.

 

[gipper]

No that is not an option because all humans in a human society do have an obligation to the health and welfare of all other humans in the society.

That's not what the constitution says. Oh you are talking about the communist manifesto, yes according to that document we are responsible for providing free shit for morons indeed.

Haul your ass out of our country, anti-American bigot.

Wrong.
The constitution says we all have the right to life, and that can't be defended unless we then all have equal access to health care.
Not being allowed access to health care means you die if you get sick or injured.
That essentially is murder.

No, the constitution is not a Marxist document. That's not what it says.

Go back to your communist hell hole, we don't want you here.

You need to wake up. The government is not abiding by the constitution. It violates it every day and has done so for decades.

So, the dumb argument that it’s not in the constitution, is meaningless.

And the way to fix that is NOT to add one more item to the list of violations.

Or to vote for a socialist who prefers the soviet constitution for that matter. Which is also what you prefer, why not just admit it, pull of the mask and reveal your true self.

LOL. Yeah we need to make sure the government continues to enrich and empower the extreme wealthy. We can’t have the government helping the poor and middle class. That’s a violation of the constitution. LMFAO.

 

[sparky]

The I got mine mentality was never a constitutional directive either

~S~

 

[fncceo]

because all humans in a human society do have an obligation to the health and welfare of all other humans in the society

Where is that written?

It’s common sense, but some like you don’t have any.

Where in The Constitution does it say I'm obligated to pay for someone else's health care?

LOL. Don’t be silly. Please.

So, it's not in there? Good, I can't afford to pay for 350 million people's health care.

 

[gipper]

because all humans in a human society do have an obligation to the health and welfare of all other humans in the society

Where is that written?

It’s common sense, but some like you don’t have any.

Where in The Constitution does it say I'm obligated to pay for someone else's health care?

LOL. Don’t be silly. Please.

So, it's not in there? Good, I can't afford to pay for 350 million people's health care.

But you can for the extreme wealthy and you do, but you’re too dumb to know it.

 

[Norman]

The I got mine mentality was never a constitutional directive either

~S~

Specifically the constitution prevents YOU from getting mine. It is called liberty.

Which is what I definitely want for people who vote for the guy whose staffers who want Americans in gulags and re-education camps. Pay for your own care like the rest of us, losers.

 

[Norman]

Where is that written?

It’s common sense, but some like you don’t have any.

Where in The Constitution does it say I'm obligated to pay for someone else's health care?

LOL. Don’t be silly. Please.

So, it's not in there? Good, I can't afford to pay for 350 million people's health care.

But you can for the extreme wealthy and you do, but you’re too dumb to know it.

The extremely wealthy fund the government overwhelmingly and pay for your free shit to the extent you have been able to vote it in harnessing stupid people and unlimited democracy to your advantage.

And you hate them for it. No one should dedicate one penny towards your mooching.

 

[fncceo]

Where is that written?

It’s common sense, but some like you don’t have any.

Where in The Constitution does it say I'm obligated to pay for someone else's health care?

LOL. Don’t be silly. Please.

So, it's not in there? Good, I can't afford to pay for 350 million people's health care.

But you can for the extreme wealthy and you do, but you’re too dumb to know it.

Is insulting people the only way you know to express yourself? How's that working out for you?

 

[gipper]

It’s common sense, but some like you don’t have any.

Where in The Constitution does it say I'm obligated to pay for someone else's health care?

LOL. Don’t be silly. Please.

So, it's not in there? Good, I can't afford to pay for 350 million people's health care.

But you can for the extreme wealthy and you do, but you’re too dumb to know it.

Is insulting people the only way you know to express yourself? How's that working out for you?

I’m just trying to help.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Our wonderful utopian for-profit healthcare system gives Americans CHOICE. Americans gotta have that choice! We can choose our own doctors and Medicare for all would take that way!

It’s possible such a socialist system would, but not necessarily. Let’s pretend it did though. What other “choices” does our current healthcare system offer? Low paying premiums & high deductibles vs high paying monthly premiums & lower deductibles? Rationing essential but unaffordable medicine? That’s some fucking choice right there! That’s the American way! Go bankrupt over healthcare costs!

You know the rich and middle class would need to pay more in taxes with a Medicare for all system, but they would still ultimately save money by not having to worry about monthly premiums, prescription costs, Co-pays, and high deductibles.

I just love it when individuals like Billy keep on beating the drum for Universal Healthcare and not Medicare for All while lying about things!

Under Medicare for All you would still carry a supplemental insurance if the U.S. Government pattern it after Medicare seeing Medicare covers so much and the supplemental insurance will cover the rest.

Under any insurance no matter government or private the stupidity about keeping your doctor is a lie if the doctor is not in network with the provider or government insurance.

Why can't those like you be honest about that?

Also what you are wanting is a VA version of Healthcare but if those like you admit to that then you open Pandora Box and unleash a whole bunch of other problems because the VA system is poorly ran by the Federal Government!

So Billy as you sit there telling us it will be cheaper well if it is Medicare for all then you will be paying higher taxes while still having to buy private insurance to cover the cost that the Federal Government will not pay, and if it is Universal Healthcare ( which it is ) then you are stuck with a VA system that will ration medication, treatment and lose nurses, doctors and therapists while taxing you for a poorly ran system...

So Billy as you wonder what is that big ass hand print across your face, well that was me bitch slapping you for your stupidity once again!

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Our wonderful utopian for-profit healthcare system gives Americans CHOICE. Americans gotta have that choice! We can choose our own doctors and Medicare for all would take that way!

It’s possible such a socialist system would, but not necessarily. Let’s pretend it did though. What other “choices” does our current healthcare system offer? Low paying premiums & high deductibles vs high paying monthly premiums & lower deductibles? Rationing essential but unaffordable medicine? That’s some fucking choice right there! That’s the American way! Go bankrupt over healthcare costs!

You know the rich and middle class would need to pay more in taxes with a Medicare for all system, but they would still ultimately save money by not having to worry about monthly premiums, prescription costs, Co-pays, and high deductibles.

Utopia is just one plane ticket a way. Why not do it?

Venezuela already has a socialist Sanders type leader. No need to worry about copays and all that - food is what you worry about and not health care.

I say North Korea or China would be a better option or even Cuba for Billy but he knows they don't want him seeing they have enough people they have to force to work in slave camps to help the government earn their dollars on the international market...

 

[fncceo]

Where in The Constitution does it say I'm obligated to pay for someone else's health care?

LOL. Don’t be silly. Please.

So, it's not in there? Good, I can't afford to pay for 350 million people's health care.

But you can for the extreme wealthy and you do, but you’re too dumb to know it.

Is insulting people the only way you know to express yourself? How's that working out for you?

I’m just trying to help.

Your candidate tried that ... she lost the election.

Talking down to people is what you do when you don't have an argument.

 

[Norman]

Where in The Constitution does it say I'm obligated to pay for someone else's health care?

LOL. Don’t be silly. Please.

So, it's not in there? Good, I can't afford to pay for 350 million people's health care.

But you can for the extreme wealthy and you do, but you’re too dumb to know it.

Is insulting people the only way you know to express yourself? How's that working out for you?

I’m just trying to help.

Help yourself and the free shit army to the free shit.

 

[Norman]

LOL. Don’t be silly. Please.

So, it's not in there? Good, I can't afford to pay for 350 million people's health care.

But you can for the extreme wealthy and you do, but you’re too dumb to know it.

Is insulting people the only way you know to express yourself? How's that working out for you?

I’m just trying to help.

Your candidate tried that ... she lost the election.

Talking down to people is what you do when you don't have an argument.

He's just so much above us, we don't get what is going on.

Sanders is not a real socialist despite telling us right from the gate he is. But you see it's very complicated, so complicated in fact that it's impossible to even express to a lowly idiot like yourself.

Yup, he is a leftist.

 

[Obiwan]

Our wonderful utopian for-profit healthcare system gives Americans CHOICE. Americans gotta have that choice! We can choose our own doctors and Medicare for all would take that way!

It’s possible such a socialist system would, but not necessarily. Let’s pretend it did though. What other “choices” does our current healthcare system offer? Low paying premiums & high deductibles vs high paying monthly premiums & lower deductibles? Rationing essential but unaffordable medicine? That’s some fucking choice right there! That’s the American way! Go bankrupt over healthcare costs!

You know the rich and middle class would need to pay more in taxes with a Medicare for all system, but they would still ultimately save money by not having to worry about monthly premiums, prescription costs, Co-pays, and high deductibles.

According to Gretta and the Democrats, we'll all be dead within 10 years anyway, so what's the problem???

 

[gipper]

So, it's not in there? Good, I can't afford to pay for 350 million people's health care.

But you can for the extreme wealthy and you do, but you’re too dumb to know it.

Is insulting people the only way you know to express yourself? How's that working out for you?

I’m just trying to help.

Your candidate tried that ... she lost the election.

Talking down to people is what you do when you don't have an argument.

He's just so much above us, we don't get what is going on.

Sanders is not a real socialist despite telling us right from the gate he is. But you see it's very complicated, so complicated in fact that it's impossible to even express to a lowly idiot like yourself.

Yup, he is a leftist.

Thank you.

 

[gipper]

LOL. Don’t be silly. Please.

So, it's not in there? Good, I can't afford to pay for 350 million people's health care.

But you can for the extreme wealthy and you do, but you’re too dumb to know it.

Is insulting people the only way you know to express yourself? How's that working out for you?

I’m just trying to help.

Your candidate tried that ... she lost the election.

Talking down to people is what you do when you don't have an argument.

I voted for Donnie. You know that. Stop being an idiot.