One country in Europe understands the importance of the Right to own guns....

[2aguy]

You dick. Lets have more guns so we can reduce our murder rate to American levels.10 times higher than ours.

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

The killing of criminals and suicides do not count, that is called lying.
When you talk about things like this your finger is on the scale… Fact

How many cimminals killed at vegas?

How many criminals were killed in Paris, or Nice, France....?

 

[Brain357]

Yep.....hopefully this understanding of the Right to self defense will spread through Europe...before they sink into more violence and mass murder with a disarmed population...

Czech prez calls for European ‘2nd Amendment’

Czech president Miloš Zeman has said Europeans should “have the courage to invest in our own guns” in order to guard against international terrorism, like millions of U.S. citizens have.

The elder statesman — a veteran of the Prague Spring uprising against the old Communist regime as well as the Velvet Revolution which finally brought it down — made his comments in an address to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, an intergovernmental forum which predates the quasi-federal European Union by several years.

“The level of international crime is growing because of Islamic terrorism,” he said, in response to a question from an Armenian politician.

You dick. Lets have more guns so we can reduce our murder rate to American levels.10 times higher than ours.

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

Americans also use guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals...those are rapes, robberies and murders that do not happen because the victims had guns....in Britain...their violence rates...rapes, robberies, and soon, murders are going up........

that lie about guns in the home...again?

Public Health and Gun Control: A Review

In 1993, in his landmark and much cited NEJM article (and the research, again, heavily funded by the CDC), Dr. Kellermann attempted to show again that guns in the home are a greater risk to the victims than to the assailants.4

Despite valid criticisms by reputable scholars of his previous works (including the 1986 study), Dr. Kellermann ignored the criticisms and again used the same methodology.

He also used study populations with disproportionately high rates of serious psychosocial dysfunction from three selected state counties, known to be unrepresentative of the general U.S. population.

For example,

53 percent of the case subjects had a history of a household member being arrested,

31 percent had a household history of illicit drug use,

32 percent had a household member hit or hurt in a family fight,

and 17 percent had a family member hurt so seriously in a domestic altercation that prompt medical attention was required.

Moreover, both the case studies and control groups in this analysis had a very high incidence of financial instability.

In fact, in this study, gun ownership, the supposedly high risk factor for homicide was not one of the most strongly associated factors for being murdered.

Drinking, illicit drugs, living alone, history of family violence, living in a rented home were all greater individual risk factors for being murdered than a gun in the home.

One must conclude there is no basis to apply the conclusions of this study to the general population.

All of these are factors that, as Dr. Suter pointed out, "would expectedly be associated with higher rates of violence and homicide."5

It goes without saying, the results of such a study on gun homicides, selecting this sort of unrepresentative population sample, nullify the authors' generalizations, and their preordained, conclusions can not be extrapolated to the general population.

Moreover, although the 1993 New England Journal of Medicine study purported to show that the homicide victims were killed with a gun ordinarily kept in the home, the fact is that as Kates and associates point out 71.1 percent of the victims were killed by assailants who did not live in the victims¹ household using guns presumably not kept in that home.6

While Kellermann and associates began with 444 cases of homicides in the home, cases were dropped from the study for a variety of reasons, and in the end, only 316 matched pairs were used in the final analysis, representing only 71.2 percent of the original 444 homicide cases.

This reduction increased tremendously the chance for sampling bias. Analysis of why 28.8 percent of the cases were dropped would have helped ascertain if the study was compromised by the existence of such biases, but Dr. Kellermann, in an unprecedented move, refused to release his data and make it available for other researchers to analyze.

Likewise, Prof. Gary Kleck of Florida State University has written me that knowledge about what guns were kept in the home is essential, but this data in his study was never released by Dr. Kellermann: "The most likely bit of data that he would want to withhold is information as to whether the gun used in the gun homicides was kept in the home of the victim."*

As Kates and associates point out, "The validity of the NEJM 1993 study¹s conclusions depend on the control group matching the homicide cases in every way (except, of course, for the occurrence of the homicide)."6

However, in this study, the controls collected did not match the cases in many ways (i.e., for example, in the amount of substance abuse, single parent versus two parent homes, etc.) contributing to further untoward effects, and decreasing the inference that can legitimately be drawn from the data of this study. Be that as it may, "The conclusion that gun ownership is a risk factor for homicide derives from the finding of a gun in 45.4 percent of the homicide case households, but in only 35.8 percent of the control household. Whether that finding is accurate, however, depends on the truthfulness of control group interviewees in admitting the presence of a gun or guns in the home."6

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

 

[2aguy]

Yep.....hopefully this understanding of the Right to self defense will spread through Europe...before they sink into more violence and mass murder with a disarmed population...

Czech prez calls for European ‘2nd Amendment’

Czech president Miloš Zeman has said Europeans should “have the courage to invest in our own guns” in order to guard against international terrorism, like millions of U.S. citizens have.

The elder statesman — a veteran of the Prague Spring uprising against the old Communist regime as well as the Velvet Revolution which finally brought it down — made his comments in an address to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, an intergovernmental forum which predates the quasi-federal European Union by several years.

“The level of international crime is growing because of Islamic terrorism,” he said, in response to a question from an Armenian politician.

You dick. Lets have more guns so we can reduce our murder rate to American levels.10 times higher than ours.

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

And yet....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[ph3iron]

Yep.....hopefully this understanding of the Right to self defense will spread through Europe...before they sink into more violence and mass murder with a disarmed population...

Czech prez calls for European ‘2nd Amendment’

Czech president Miloš Zeman has said Europeans should “have the courage to invest in our own guns” in order to guard against international terrorism, like millions of U.S. citizens have.

The elder statesman — a veteran of the Prague Spring uprising against the old Communist regime as well as the Velvet Revolution which finally brought it down — made his comments in an address to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, an intergovernmental forum which predates the quasi-federal European Union by several years.

“The level of international crime is growing because of Islamic terrorism,” he said, in response to a question from an Armenian politician.

You dick. Lets have more guns so we can reduce our murder rate to American levels.10 times higher than ours.

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

The killing of criminals and suicides do not count, that is called lying.
When you talk about things like this your finger is on the scale… Fact

Unfortunately they are called numbers.
Whatever way you spin our country is way more violent than the uk.
U.K. Got rid of its criminals by shipping here.
Our Country was founded by criminals, genes are still present

 

[Brain357]

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

The killing of criminals and suicides do not count, that is called lying.
When you talk about things like this your finger is on the scale… Fact

How many cimminals killed at vegas?

How many criminals were killed in Paris, or Nice, France....?

By a group of terrorists? Or just by an individual who legally bought weapons for mass killing?

 

[2aguy]

You dick. Lets have more guns so we can reduce our murder rate to American levels.10 times higher than ours.

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

Americans also use guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals...those are rapes, robberies and murders that do not happen because the victims had guns....in Britain...their violence rates...rapes, robberies, and soon, murders are going up........

that lie about guns in the home...again?

Public Health and Gun Control: A Review

In 1993, in his landmark and much cited NEJM article (and the research, again, heavily funded by the CDC), Dr. Kellermann attempted to show again that guns in the home are a greater risk to the victims than to the assailants.4

Despite valid criticisms by reputable scholars of his previous works (including the 1986 study), Dr. Kellermann ignored the criticisms and again used the same methodology.

He also used study populations with disproportionately high rates of serious psychosocial dysfunction from three selected state counties, known to be unrepresentative of the general U.S. population.

For example,

53 percent of the case subjects had a history of a household member being arrested,

31 percent had a household history of illicit drug use,

32 percent had a household member hit or hurt in a family fight,

and 17 percent had a family member hurt so seriously in a domestic altercation that prompt medical attention was required.

Moreover, both the case studies and control groups in this analysis had a very high incidence of financial instability.

In fact, in this study, gun ownership, the supposedly high risk factor for homicide was not one of the most strongly associated factors for being murdered.

Drinking, illicit drugs, living alone, history of family violence, living in a rented home were all greater individual risk factors for being murdered than a gun in the home.

One must conclude there is no basis to apply the conclusions of this study to the general population.

All of these are factors that, as Dr. Suter pointed out, "would expectedly be associated with higher rates of violence and homicide."5

It goes without saying, the results of such a study on gun homicides, selecting this sort of unrepresentative population sample, nullify the authors' generalizations, and their preordained, conclusions can not be extrapolated to the general population.

Moreover, although the 1993 New England Journal of Medicine study purported to show that the homicide victims were killed with a gun ordinarily kept in the home, the fact is that as Kates and associates point out 71.1 percent of the victims were killed by assailants who did not live in the victims¹ household using guns presumably not kept in that home.6

While Kellermann and associates began with 444 cases of homicides in the home, cases were dropped from the study for a variety of reasons, and in the end, only 316 matched pairs were used in the final analysis, representing only 71.2 percent of the original 444 homicide cases.

This reduction increased tremendously the chance for sampling bias. Analysis of why 28.8 percent of the cases were dropped would have helped ascertain if the study was compromised by the existence of such biases, but Dr. Kellermann, in an unprecedented move, refused to release his data and make it available for other researchers to analyze.

Likewise, Prof. Gary Kleck of Florida State University has written me that knowledge about what guns were kept in the home is essential, but this data in his study was never released by Dr. Kellermann: "The most likely bit of data that he would want to withhold is information as to whether the gun used in the gun homicides was kept in the home of the victim."*

As Kates and associates point out, "The validity of the NEJM 1993 study¹s conclusions depend on the control group matching the homicide cases in every way (except, of course, for the occurrence of the homicide)."6

However, in this study, the controls collected did not match the cases in many ways (i.e., for example, in the amount of substance abuse, single parent versus two parent homes, etc.) contributing to further untoward effects, and decreasing the inference that can legitimately be drawn from the data of this study. Be that as it may, "The conclusion that gun ownership is a risk factor for homicide derives from the finding of a gun in 45.4 percent of the homicide case households, but in only 35.8 percent of the control household. Whether that finding is accurate, however, depends on the truthfulness of control group interviewees in admitting the presence of a gun or guns in the home."6

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

Yes...thanks to democrats who began attacking police in 2014......here is the actual truth...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


Hard Data, Hollow Protests

The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.

Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.

Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.

Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

 

[Brain357]

Yep.....hopefully this understanding of the Right to self defense will spread through Europe...before they sink into more violence and mass murder with a disarmed population...

Czech prez calls for European ‘2nd Amendment’

Czech president Miloš Zeman has said Europeans should “have the courage to invest in our own guns” in order to guard against international terrorism, like millions of U.S. citizens have.

The elder statesman — a veteran of the Prague Spring uprising against the old Communist regime as well as the Velvet Revolution which finally brought it down — made his comments in an address to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, an intergovernmental forum which predates the quasi-federal European Union by several years.

“The level of international crime is growing because of Islamic terrorism,” he said, in response to a question from an Armenian politician.

You dick. Lets have more guns so we can reduce our murder rate to American levels.10 times higher than ours.

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

And yet....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Concealed carry up and....

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

 

[Rustic]

You dick. Lets have more guns so we can reduce our murder rate to American levels.10 times higher than ours.

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

The killing of criminals and suicides do not count, that is called lying.
When you talk about things like this your finger is on the scale… Fact

So only 20000 suicides and 2000 real white boy murders?
I feel a lotbetter now

Suicides have nothing to do with firearms… Coping with life is how some people decide to commit suicide.

 

[Rustic]

You dick. Lets have more guns so we can reduce our murder rate to American levels.10 times higher than ours.

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

And yet....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Concealed carry up and....

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

 

[Brain357]

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

The killing of criminals and suicides do not count, that is called lying.
When you talk about things like this your finger is on the scale… Fact

So only 20000 suicides and 2000 real white boy murders?
I feel a lotbetter now

Suicides have nothing to do with firearms… Coping with life is how some people decide to commit suicide.

Anything quick and easy is done more than something difficult. Guns sure make suicide quick and easy.

 

[2aguy]

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

The killing of criminals and suicides do not count, that is called lying.
When you talk about things like this your finger is on the scale… Fact

How many cimminals killed at vegas?

How many criminals were killed in Paris, or Nice, France....?

By a group of terrorists? Or just by an individual who legally bought weapons for mass killing?

Terrorists, in countries that completely banned semi auto rifles....and completely banned fully automatic military rifles....those terrorists, on government terrorist watch lists and many convicted criminals, easily acquired fully automatic rifles and 30 round magazines....as well as banned pistols and hand grenades......

Oh...and a rental truck that was used to murder 89 people and injure 458.......let's not forget that...

 

[Brain357]

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

And yet....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Concealed carry up and....

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

 

[ph3iron]

Yep.....hopefully this understanding of the Right to self defense will spread through Europe...before they sink into more violence and mass murder with a disarmed population...

Czech prez calls for European ‘2nd Amendment’

Czech president Miloš Zeman has said Europeans should “have the courage to invest in our own guns” in order to guard against international terrorism, like millions of U.S. citizens have.

The elder statesman — a veteran of the Prague Spring uprising against the old Communist regime as well as the Velvet Revolution which finally brought it down — made his comments in an address to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, an intergovernmental forum which predates the quasi-federal European Union by several years.

“The level of international crime is growing because of Islamic terrorism,” he said, in response to a question from an Armenian politician.

You dick. Lets have more guns so we can reduce our murder rate to American levels.10 times higher than ours.

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

And yet....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.[/QUOTE

It's called false equivalency, like dept of Ed ruining education.
You have no numbers to say what it would have been like if there. Had been no increase in guns.
I thought the 20s were way more violent, at least in solved murders

 

[2aguy]

You dick. Lets have more guns so we can reduce our murder rate to American levels.10 times higher than ours.

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

And yet....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Concealed carry up and....

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

The increase has nothing to do with law abiding people carrying guns....you know this...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


Hard Data, Hollow Protests

The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.

Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.

Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.

Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

 

[Brain357]

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

The killing of criminals and suicides do not count, that is called lying.
When you talk about things like this your finger is on the scale… Fact

How many cimminals killed at vegas?

How many criminals were killed in Paris, or Nice, France....?

By a group of terrorists? Or just by an individual who legally bought weapons for mass killing?

Terrorists, in countries that completely banned semi auto rifles....and completely banned fully automatic military rifles....those terrorists, on government terrorist watch lists and many convicted criminals, easily acquired fully automatic rifles and 30 round magazines....as well as banned pistols and hand grenades......

Oh...and a rental truck that was used to murder 89 people and injure 458.......let's not forget that...

And you want to make sure they have every killing option easily available.

 

[Brain357]

Our white boys are hilarious.
Gun crime has "surged" to 1/10th of ours
They never quote gun deaths, 30000 a year here uk ?100?

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

And yet....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Concealed carry up and....

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

The increase has nothing to do with law abiding people carrying guns....you know this...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


Hard Data, Hollow Protests

The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.

Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.

Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.

Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

 

[Rustic]

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

The killing of criminals and suicides do not count, that is called lying.
When you talk about things like this your finger is on the scale… Fact

How many cimminals killed at vegas?

How many criminals were killed in Paris, or Nice, France....?

By a group of terrorists? Or just by an individual who legally bought weapons for mass killing?

Shit happens, what are your chances of getting killed by a mass shooter? I would quess you have more of a chance of spontaneously combusting in your safe place then getting killed by a mass shooter using an ar sporting rifle... snowflake

 

[2aguy]

Here you go...the truth about gun deaths in the U.S...



Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide... (Non Gun suicide...22,078)

22,018

Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

=

So....out of 9,616 actual gun murders...if you take out the 80% that are criminals murdering other criminals...that leaves...

1,923 innocent people murdered with guns...in a country of over 320 million people, who own close to 600 million guns, and personally carry over 16.3 million for self defense...

Cars killed 35,616 people in 2015.........

You have no facts that support what you believe about guns and Americans...

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

And yet....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Concealed carry up and....

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

The increase has nothing to do with law abiding people carrying guns....you know this...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


Hard Data, Hollow Protests

The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.

Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.

Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.

Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

Yes....lying by ommission of truth, facts and reality....


The increase has nothing to do with law abiding people carrying guns....you know this...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


Hard Data, Hollow Protests

The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.

Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.

Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.

Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

 

[Brain357]

Crime went down with the Bill Clinton crime bill and the gun control he passed. Now after years of declining gun control and increased concealed carry:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

 

[Brain357]

How many facts do you want. The USA is a violent country. Gun deaths are way higher here.
Just saw where you have 3x better chance of dying in homes which have guns.
How many baddies have you fought off hand to hand btw?

The killing of criminals and suicides do not count, that is called lying.
When you talk about things like this your finger is on the scale… Fact

How many cimminals killed at vegas?

How many criminals were killed in Paris, or Nice, France....?

By a group of terrorists? Or just by an individual who legally bought weapons for mass killing?

Shit happens, what are your chances of getting killed by a mass shooter? I would quess you have more of a chance of spontaneously combusting in your safe place then getting killed by a mass shooter using an ar sporting rifle... snowflake

The chance of our police being shot and killed sure is higher than other places.