It's funny how you guys make comments about black people that are stereotyped and false, and then ask somebody to show you where what you said was racist.
Yes, when you make an accusation, I am going to challenge you on it. Show me where I've said racist things. Should be pretty easy since you make that claim so much.
Go back and read some of the things you have said to me.
I know what I've said, its on you to point out my racist statements. Im not doing your work for you.
You get shown documented evidence, then call yourself challenging facts as it pertains to what whites have done and its impact on back people.
Ive never said that racism hasn't happened and still doesn't happen. Show me where I've said otherwise.
And everything you challenge is based on your opinion as a white person, not facts.
Here we go again, you form your opinion of me based on your impression that im a white person yet you can't tell me WHY you think im a white person.
What you believe isn't reality, and you challenging facts based only on your belief gets old.
Name a fact I've challenged based on my beliefs. Ive ONLY ever pushed back on you because of your incessant accusation of racism in damn near everything you post here.
That's all you right-wingers do. You play games thinking you are owning the libs, instead of actually debating the issues..
Ive tried debating the issues and I can't get an answer. Ive asked...what do you think reparations should look like, and every time I ask that, nobody can give me an answer. Hell, ive even agreed that black people are owed something, but as of yet, nobody here can tell me what they think that thing is.
And I'm just not going to play the white right-wing game of show me and prove it anymore.
Well, when you accuse people of being racist...you should expect that they are going to ask you to show the racism.
Especially after I take the time to find the sources that are the evidence. For example, I say whites have been given things by the government that blacks were denied. You challenged that after I presented this:
This paper examines the U.S. government’s instigation, participation, authorization, and perpetuation of federal housing discrimination against black-Americans from the 1930s to the 1980s and the damage that such discrimination caused and continues to cause today.
Part I examines the U.S. government’s housing practices—from the New Deal until the 1968 Fair Housing Act and its 1988 Amendments—to reveal that although the New Deal’s national housing programs revolutionized homeownership and home equity in the United States, the U.S. government’s federal housing programs were racially discriminatory. Specifically, and quite shockingly, the U.S. government actively created and promulgated racist neighborhood rating systems that constructed black neighborhoods and black property as unstable, volatile, hazardous, and not worthy of investment. Using these racist rating systems, the federal government endorsed racial covenants and invested federal money into the creation and accumulation of white wealth, the value of whiteness, white suburbia, and white homeownership. Meanwhile, the government denied blacks federal housing funding, fueling black stigma and barring black-Americans from the invaluable twentieth century opportunities of homeownership and home equity.
Understanding the U.S. government’s discriminatory housing practices, Part II discusses and quantifies the effects of the government’s housing discrimination on black-American households and communities. Finding that approximately 120 billion 1950s dollars—or more than 1.239 quintillion 2019 dollars—were invested to subsidize and create white-American wealth through homeownership,
This year marks the 400th anniversary of the first documented arrival of Africans to the United States, which resulted in the enslavement of approximately 4 mil
papers.ssrn.com
Ok, first, where have "I" challenged that? And, the argument is would present against that is your assumption that white people only have what they have because government gave it to them. There are many people of ALL ethnicity who work their asses off for what they have. Yes, white people decades ago were favored for certain things, and that was wrong, and the country is working to make up for that. We've passed all kinds of laws for equality and to put everyone on the same plane, and thats a good thing.
But this notion that white people only have anythjng because it was given to them, especially today, is just wrong. Does the US have a long way to go to combat racism? Absolutely, but there are a great many white people out there who are working very hard to make ends meet who would take exception to you saying they were handed everything.
Just the other day, I presented evidence showing how whites excluded Asians from starting businesses in or near white communities but gave them loans that they denied blacks to start businesses in black communities as why Asians were able to make it and leaving blacks behind. I believe you and the other right-wing whites challenged that.
Link the thread. I do not remember reading about that. If you have my post, link to it.
But that is a fact tht you really cannot challenge, yet you do so and try arguing as if it didn't happen only because you say so.
I have no idea what you are talking about. Link the thread so I can read it. If I posted in there, id be curious as to what i said, because I do not remember commenting on loans given to Asian people.
That it just had to be about something else just because you say so. Well, white people can be wrong, and you need to understand that.
Yes, white people can be wrong, and black and Asian and Hispanic....
And on the matter of race, whites have consistently been wrong, and I believe it's on purpose.
White have been wrong, on purpose?
You and others try telling us how things are all in the past as if the past doesn't impact the present.
Thats because you keep bringing UP the past and talking as if it's still here today.
The past is the Revolutionary War. A war that happened over 200 years ago is why we are a nation right now. The past has plenty of modern implications to whites like you then,
Correct, the wars fought in the past have created the nation we have today, im not sure what cultural or societal practices from that time are practiced today though.
but if we bring up the shit whites have done during these 249 years, that's the past, and it has nothing to do with today.
Thats silly, obviously things that whites did to blacks in the past have had an effect on where blacks are today. The question is, can you punish the people of the present for the sins of the people of the past?
We just need to get over it. You guys never forget what the British did, and have a holiday to make sure we all remember.
The 4th of July? The celebration of when we declared our independence from Britian? Im not sure why you have a problem with this.
Jews tell us to never forget the Holocaust, and you guys agree with that.
Six million Jewish people died in the holocaust.
But we must forget slavery, Jim Crow, and human rights violations committed against us today in America by whites.
Who's asking you to forget it?
That's the game you motherfuckers play, and I have run out of patience with it. So you go back and read your posts to see the racism you have expressed.
No, you made the claims, YOU go back and point them out. You've done it enough that it should be easy for you to find them.
