On Israelophobia, CBS anchor is right (racist Ta-Nehisi)

I don't live in Ukraine Clown. That isnt my home. Ukraninians chose to fight their invaders instead of surrender as you would of.

I considered them, they just weren't convincing that Russia invading another country is anyone's fault other than the invaders.

I don't think we should be the world's police but I don't mind being the arms dealer to people fighting off invaders.

Try to use rational arguments instead of blaming others for Russia's actions you fucking moron. :lmao:
So you are too scared to go fight. You just want to fuel a conflict that has already killed tens of thousands.

I favor negotiations not surrender. You prefer a growing mountain of dead bodies.

If China allied with Canada would the U.S. object? Do you want to start WW III? Should we go back and fight the Taliban?
 
So you are too scared to go fight. You just want to fuel a conflict that has already killed tens of thousands.
Clown, my family comes from one of the most violent countries in the world. I'm not a stranger to violence. I've lost loved ones and friends to guns and knives and have had guns pointed in my face and fought off a car jacker. Ukraine isn't my fight but I don't mind supply them for as long as they want, no. How long they want to hold out for is their choice you surrender monkey.
I favor negotiations not surrender. You prefer a growing mountain of dead bodies.
Who are you negotiating on behalf of moron? Ukraine has chosen to fight. You don't get to decide for Ukraine when they give up that fight.
If China allied with Canada would the U.S. object? Do you want to start WW III? Should we go back and fight the Taliban?
I don't care about China. I'm not in favor of fighting anything other than a defensive war moron.
 
No, not rightful so you deplorable, necessarily so. The difference is Germany was an actual threat to the world.
we were fighting for the survival of America and the UK

Everything else was just icing on the cake

Now Israel is fighting for its survival
 
we were fighting for the survival of America and the UK

Everything else was just icing on the cake

Now Israel is fighting for its survival
It's not though. Gaza isn't a threat to Israel’s survival.
 
The creepy thought experiments of Ta-Nehisi Coates.

Brendan O'Neill, October 11, 2024.

I cannot believe this needs to be said in 2024, but there is no context in which killing innocent Jews becomes understandable. Everywhere one looks these days, people are ‘contextualising’ pogroms. Among the cranky online right there is a creepy new trend of excuse-making for the Nazis’ extermination of Europe’s Jews. And among the woke left, there’s a rush to provide context for Hamas’s butchery of 7 October. Gaza is hellish, they say. Its people are oppressed, they insist. As if any of that explains the rape of Jewish women or the hurling of hand grenades into Jewish children’s faces. No political grievance, not one, makes sense of Jew murder.

The most striking thing about Coates’s latest artless intervention into the discussion of Israel-Gaza is how he puts himself slap bang in the middle of it. Many of today’s moral relativists who masquerade as progressive thinkers have said, or at least implied, that 7 October was a prison-break by the persecuted, a revolt of the downtrodden. But Coates goes a step further. He wonders what he would do. He puts himself in the shoes of the pogromists. I’m all for empathy. But trying to get into the hearts and minds of the men who raped Jewish women and then shot them? Yeah, that’s where my empathy dries up.

Coates’s thought experiment speaks not only to the moral disarray of contemporary ‘progressive’ thought, but to its narcissism, too. As with his new book, The Message, which includes a long section on a trip he took to Israel and Palestine, Coates seems hell-bent on centring his own emotions and hang-ups. The entire wartorn Middle East is reduced to a therapist’s couch for a moneyed American trying to make sense of his own life experiences. His interest in the region seems little more than an extension of his own ceaseless self-reflection as the literary establishment’s anointed truth-teller on race.

So in The Message he likens Israel to ‘the Jim Crow South’ – a spectacularly historically illiterate claim that could only make sense to a man for whom America is the centre of the universe and whose own story is the only story that counts. He writes about ‘the glare of racism’ he felt in Israel. He describes one incident where he and his party were made to wait 45 minutes at a checkpoint outside Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. That’s it? How quickly his empathy evaporates when it comes to Israelis. How striking that the man who understands why a 20-year-old Gazan might join a fascistic pogrom seems incapable of understanding why a Jewish nation surrounded by hostile armies of anti-Semites might politely ask you to wait 45 poxy minutes before accessing a religious site.

Coates’s bending of the sorrows of the Middle East to his own petty agenda of grievance-mongering sums up what ‘Palestine’ has become for the 21st-century progressive. It has become a tool of vicarious victimhood, a means for the rich of the West to metaphorically mingle with the wretched of Gaza in the hope that some of their glow of suffering might rub off and add a little depth to these people’s identitarian complaining. When Coates says he felt the ‘glare of racism’ in Israel, and wonders what he would do if he were a downtrodden Gazan, he exposes the coveting of suffering that motors so-called Palestine solidarity. There’s an ironically neo-colonial vibe here, where a foreign nation is mined not for its resources or territory, but for that other most prized asset in the era of woke: the feeling of victimhood.

As to his confession that, in another life, he might not have been ‘strong enough’ to resist joining the rampage of 7 October – you couldn’t ask for better proof that pity for Palestine is a gateway drug to unhinged hatred for the Jewish nation. And that the modern politics of grievance teeters always on the brink of a politics of vengeance. Listen, if the end result of your ideology is wondering out loud about the circumstances under which you’d possibly join a pogrom, you need a new ideology.
 
If they are serving as human shields for Hamas terrorists they put themselves in the line of fire
You know when you're talking about shooting and bombing through human shields who are women and children I can't tell who the bad guy is supposed to be anymore. :dunno:
 
You know when you're talking about shooting and bombing through human shields who are women and children I can't tell who the bad guy is supposed to be anymore. :dunno:
Maybe you cant tell but I clearly can
 
HAMAS killed 1200 people on Oct. 7. Israel has killed around 40,000 people in Gaza, many women and children. You calling one side genocidal butchers in leu of those facts is impressive in it's lack of self awareness. :lol:
Did more Brits or Germans die in WW2? Your numbers are irrelevant. Hamas was the aggressor and they need to unconditionally surrender before Israel ceases destroying their stronghold. You’re not very bright and you’re still not white.
 
Yep. All those women and children are an existential threat to Israel. :itsok:
If the.HAMAS savages had not hunted down to torture to death as many innocent Jewish men, women, and children as they could find, then those Gazan women and children would still be alive.

But you go ahead and blame the Jews.
 
Did more Brits or Germans die in WW2? Your numbers are irrelevant. Hamas was the aggressor and they need to unconditionally surrender before Israel ceases destroying their stronghold. You’re not very bright and you’re still not white.
Who gives a shit who died more? My point was about capability dipshit. Israel's action might actually get deplorable enough to spur the international creation of a Palestinian state just as German atrocity created the state of Israel.
He is destroying you in your debate. Maybe take the L and go and cash your welfare check. 🤷‍♂️
:lol:

Because you got in you tutu to cheerlead for him?
 
If the.HAMAS savages had not hunted down to torture to death as many innocent Jewish men, women, and children as they could find, then those Gazan women and children would still be alive.

But you go ahead and blame the Jews.
I'm not blaming the jews you sad fucking victim. I'm blaming the state of Israel for its actions. There there. :itsok:
 
Who gives a shit who died more? My point was about capability dipshit. Israel's action might actually get deplorable enough to spur the international creation of a Palestinian state just as German atrocity created the state of Israel.

:lol:

Because you got in you tutu to cheerlead for him?
Idiot welfare recipient, Israel was invaded and the destruction of Hamas won’t stop until there is an unconditional surrender. You don’t know history. You exhibited that quite well. You are a waste of life. And you’re still not white.
 
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