On Israelophobia, CBS anchor is right (racist Ta-Nehisi)

[georgephillip]

Kudos to Tony.

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CBS host grills Ta-Nehisi Coates on anti-Israel views in new book: Looks like it came from 'an extremist'.
'What is it that’s so particularly offends you about the existence of a Jewish state?' CBS' Tony Dokoupil asked Coates.
By Kristine Parks, Fox News. Oct 1, 2024

CBS host grills Ta-Nehisi Coates on anti-Israel views in new book: Looks like it came from 'an extremist'

CBS News interviewed author Ta-Nehisi Coates about his new book on Monday. The interview grew tense after Coates was grilled on his anti-Israel views.

www.foxnews.com

Coats points out how Israel has been an apartheid state for decades and how that example of state-supported terrorism compares to a similar episode in US history.

Where's the "extremism" in that?



"How a country that maintains this separate and unequal system, how a country that does not even allow the, quote-unquote, 'Palestinian citizens' of the state full equality with its Jewish Israeli citizens is allowed to refer to itself as a democracy is a mystery to me.

"And the closest analog I can think of is the time in which the United States of America referred to itself as a democracy even as it was disenfranchising whole swaths of Black people in the Southern states.

"And so, when I say Jim Crow, when I say segregation, that is because that is the period that immediately comes to mind for me."

 

[Sayaras]

Coats points out ...

He "points out" lol...pallyweid terminology

7 Ways to fight Israeli Apartheid Lies

The lies of Israeli Apartheid dominate public opinion . Those not on campuses must also learn the fact and how we can all take a stand as Virtual Citizens of Israel! Combat the power of their liesby spreading truth, awareness, and exposing their manipulative messages for the Jew-hate blood...

israelforever.org

won't get anyone anywhere.
It didn't. It won't.

He pretends not to know the unique situation Israel is from Arab attackers outside and inside its areas..
Did this BLACK hypocrite sick anti-Jewish-obsessed author "point out" to Sudan genocide of 400,000 BLACKS from Arab racism?

For me it was more than enough to see how this racist author Coates attacked Holocaust museum .

WTF.
No shame.
'Nuff said.

 

[j-mac]

I love how you fools continually make up shit to justify the murder of innocents.

Yeah sure....ignorant, that's what you are....

 

[j-mac]

I love how you fools continually make up shit to justify the murder of innocents.

Palestinian TV Teaches Kids The Way to 'Jihad Street'

Every day, hundreds of millions of children in more than 120 countries settle in to watch their local versions of "Sesame Street" or similar shows inspired by the Muppet model. They learn to read, to write, to count. They learn about things like

www.investigativeproject.org

 

[georgephillip]

He "points out" lol...pallyweid terminology

7 Ways to fight Israeli Apartheid Lies

The lies of Israeli Apartheid dominate public opinion . Those not on campuses must also learn the fact and how we can all take a stand as Virtual Citizens of Israel! Combat the power of their liesby spreading truth, awareness, and exposing their manipulative messages for the Jew-hate blood...

israelforever.org

won't get anyone anywhere.
It didn't. It won't.

He pretends not to know the unique situation Israel is from Arab attackers outside and inside its areas..
Did this BLACK hypocrite sick anti-Jewish-obsessed author "point out" to Sudan genocide of 400,000 BLACKS from Arab racism?

For me it was more than enough to see how this racist author Coates attacked Holocaust museum .

WTF.
No shame.
'Nuff said.

Hasbara much?

Israel is a racist, Jewish supremacist state as proven by it's Basic Law:

Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People - Wikipedia.

"Likud MK Benny Begin, son of the party's co-founder Menachem Begin, expressed his concern about the direction of his party; in his opinion, it is moving a little further away from human rights.[51]

"The Adalah Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel said that the law 'contains key elements of apartheid', which is not only immoral, but absolutely prohibited under international law'.[51]

"Adalah Director Hassan Jabareen said that the law would make Israel an exclusively Jewish country, which 'made discrimination a constitutional value and made its attachment to favouring Jewish supremacy the reason for its institutions.'"

Do you support making Israel an exclusively Jewish country by expelling or exterminating millions of non-Jews from Palestine?

 

[Thunderbird]

HAMAS killed 1200 people on Oct. 7. Israel has killed around 40,000 people in Gaza, many women and children. You calling one side genocidal butchers in leu of those facts is impressive in it's lack of self awareness.

You are right.

And the Biden-Harris administration has backed Netanyahu every step of the way.

So why are you supporting a continuation of their agenda?

Black people do a lot of the voting for Democrats, but another ethnic group seems to get most of the reward.

 

[EMH]

USS Liberty

Everyone who supports Israel cheered when Israel deliberately and intentionally attacked and murdered ship and crew USS Liberty.

 

[Curried Goats]

You are right.

And the Biden-Harris administration has backed Netanyahu every step of the way.

So why are you supporting a continuation of their agenda?

Black people do a lot of the voting for Democrats, but another ethnic group seems to get most of the reward.

Because one side is even worse than other and we have at least a slim chance of influencing Democratic politicians. I'm a pragmatist.

 

[georgephillip]

USS Liberty

Everyone who supports Israel cheered when Israel deliberately and intentionally attacked and murdered ship and crew USS Liberty.

Anyone seriously interested in understanding the "deep state" and its influence on US politics would be well advised to start with the USS Liberty before all eyewitnesses die of old age:

USS Liberty: Cover Up

"Early in the morning of Thursday June 8, 1967 the first rays of sun spilled softly over the Sinai's blond waves of sand.

"A little more than a dozen miles north, in the choppy eastern Mediterranean, the USS Liberty headed eastward..."

"As the Liberty passed the desert town of El Arish, it was being closely watched.

"About 4,000 feet above was an Israeli reconnaissance aircraft..."

"By 9:50 am, the minaret at El Arish could be seen with the naked eye like a solitary mast in a sea of sand. Although no one on the ship knew it at the time, the Liberty had suddenly trespassed into a private horror.

"At that very moment, near the minaret, Israeli forces were engaged in a criminal slaughter.

"Three days after Israel had launched the six- day war, Egyptian prisoners in the Sinai had become a nuisance.

"There was no place to house them, not enough Israelis to watch them, and few vehicles to transport them to prison camps. But there was another way to deal with them.

"As the Liberty sat within eyeshot of El Arish, eavesdropping on surrounding communications, Israeli soldiers turned the town into a slaughterhouse, systematically butchering their prisoners.

"An eyewitness recounted how in the shadow of the El Arish mosque, they lined up about 60 unarmed Egyptian prisoners, hands tied behind their backs, and then opened fire with machine guns until the pale desert sand turned red."

 

[Thunderbird]

Because one side is even worse than other and we have at least a slim chance of influencing Democratic politicians. I'm a pragmatist.

You’re a dupe. The only way you can influence the Democratic elite is to hand them an election loss when they betray you.

 

[Curried Goats]

You’re a dupe. The only way you can influence the Democratic elite is to hand them an election loss when they betray you.

That only shows the limits of your ability to reason. What's the utility in allowing them to lose to someone who will do the opposite of what I want to an even greater extreme? And who says they are betraying me? I know where Biden and Harris stand on Israel and Gaza. There are primaries for Congress every two years who's outcomes could influence the actions of Harris presidency, as small as a chance as that is. As I said I'm a pragmatist. I don't imagine allowing Harris to lose will teach the Democrats anything. That's engaging in wishful thinking and fantasy.

 

[Thunderbird]

That only shows the limits of your ability to reason. What's the utility in allowing them to lose to someone who will do the opposite of what I want to an even greater extreme? And who says they are betraying me? I know where Biden and Harris stand on Israel and Gaza. There are primaries for Congress every two years who's outcomes could influence the actions of Harris presidency, as small as a chance as that is. As I said I'm a pragmatist. I don't imagine allowing Harris to lose will teach the Democrats anything. That's engaging in wishful thinking and fantasy.

We must hold the corrupt politicians accountable for their bad behavior. If you reward them with a victory even after they have enabled a genocide they never will improve. The Republicans are no worse than the elite Democrats regarding Netanyahu and many Republicans oppose the stupid war in Ukraine.

 

[Curried Goats]

We must the corrupt politicians accountable for their bad behavior. If you reward them with a victory even after they have enabled a genocide they never will improve. The Republicans are no worse than the elite Democrats regarding Netanyahu and many Republicans oppose the stupid war in Ukraine.

Again, your argument seems rather emotional to me. I don't approach political decisions emotionally. My feelings inform what I hope to achieve through politics but I take a pragmatic view in how to achieve it. If my goal is the best outcome I can achieve for Gaza then I'm going with the candidate I think can provide that. Getting upset that the person who actually shares my views didn't win the nomination and allowing someone with even worse policies (in my opinion) to win makes it seem like the goal has become revenge rather than who I think will have better policies for Gaza. I don't take Kamala Harris's difference opinion personally. I just work with what I have available to me.

 

[Thunderbird]

Again, your argument seems rather emotional to me. I don't approach political decisions emotionally. My feelings inform what I hope to achieve through politics but I take a pragmatic view in how to achieve it. If my goal is the best outcome I can achieve for Gaza then I'm going with the candidate I think can provide that. Getting upset that the person who actually shares my views didn't win the nomination and allowing someone with even worse policies (in my opinion) to win makes it seem like the goal has become revenge rather than who I think will have better policies for Gaza. I don't take Kamala Harris's difference opinion personally. I just work with what I have available to me.

Good let’s take a cool rational approach.

Corrupt politicians who enable a genocide in Gaza do not deserve our vote.

We can vote for a third party candidate to punish said corrupt politicians. This is the best way to compel politicians to become less evil.

The Republicans are no worse than the Democratic elites (what after all is worse than a genocide?) regarding Israel. The Republicans are less inclined to prolong the stupid war in Ukraine.

 

[Curried Goats]

Good let’s take a cool rational approach.

Corrupt politicians who enable a genocide in Gaza do not deserve our vote.

What people deserve isn't a rational calculation it's an emotional one.

We can vote for a third party candidate to punish said corrupt politicians. This is the best way to compel politicians to become less evil.

Your goal has become about punishing politicians you disagree with. My goal remains choosing whoever I think will have the better policy for Gaza. We simply have different goals.

The Republicans are no worse than the Democratic elites (what after all is worse than a genocide?) regarding Israel. The Republicans are less inclined to prolong the stupid war in Ukraine.

I support Ukraine's defense of its sovereignty from a foreign invader. I don't support Israel's genocide in Gaza and there are at least some elected democrats who agree with that sentiment. That is objectively better, as far as math is concerned, than the party where none agree.

 

[Thunderbird]

What people deserve isn't a rational calculation it's an emotional one.

Your goal has become about punishing politicians you disagree with. My goal remains choosing whoever I think will have the better policy for Gaza. We simply have different goals.

I support Ukraine's defense of its sovereignty from a foreign invader. I don't support Israel's genocide in Gaza and there are at least some elected democrats who agree with that sentiment. That is objectively better, as far as math is concerned, than the party where none agree.

Should you support politicians who enable a genocide?

My goal is to produce politicians who are disinclined to supply a genocide. Is enabling mass murder in Gaza a good policy?

There are a few Democrats who refuse to back the genocide and a few Republicans who refuse to back the genocide, but that is irrelevant. We are discussing the presidential election and the establishment candidate Kamala Harris. She is entirely subservient to Netanyahu and has worked to fund his genocide. She has also allied herself with Dick Cheney. She is no better than Trump on this issue.

Regarding the Ukraine War you are misinformed. This neocon adventure does not serve American interests. It could have been avoided and should be ended through negotiations.

 

[Curried Goats]

Should you support politicians who enable a genocide?

That's a subjective question. You do whatever you feel like, I'm telling you I make the best out of the available options.

My goal is to produce politicians who are disinclined to supply a genocide. Is enabling mass murder in Gaza a good policy?

I understand that's your goal but the actual result of Harris losing the election is Trump winning the election. I think Harris's policies and Harris herself is more movable on the issue than Trump so I'll vote for her. My fantasies of what could be in a perfect world never enter into it. Also you act like the result of you not voting for Harris or Trump will be a candidate who doesn't support genocide when that isn't at all guaranteed. You feel free to hold out for perfect. I don't feel inclined to.

There are a few Democrats who refuse to back the genocide and a few Republicans who refuse to back the genocide, but that is irrelevant. We are discussing the presidential election and the establishment candidate Kamala Harris. She is entirely subservient to Netanyahu and has worked to fund his genocide. She has also allied herself with Dick Cheney. She is no better than Trump on this issue.

You're free to feel that way, I feel differently. I think if her party makes it politically untenuous for her she'll cave where as Trump's a bully who'll make Republican opposition to him untenuous.

Regarding the Ukraine War you are misinformed. This neocon adventure does not serve American interests. It could have been avoided and should be ended through negotiations.

Who the fuck are you to tell me what I think my country's best interests should be? That I decide for myself, Dipshit.

 

[Thunderbird]

That's a subjective question. You do whatever you feel like, I'm telling you I make the best out of the available options.

I understand that's your goal but the actual result of Harris losing the election is Trump winning the election. I think Harris's policies and Harris herself is more movable on the issue than Trump so I'll vote for her. My fantasies of what could be in a perfect world never enter into it. Also you act like the result of you not voting for Harris or Trump will be a candidate who doesn't support genocide when that isn't at all guaranteed. You feel free to hold out for perfect. I don't feel inclined to.

You're free to feel that way, I feel differently. I think if her party makes it politically untenuous for her she'll cave where as Trump's a bully who'll make Republican opposition to him untenuous.

Who the fuck are you to tell me what I think my country's best interests should be? That I decide for myself, Dipshit.

Voting third party is also an available option.

You don’t seem to be able to understand the foolishness of your position. We both have the goal of improving the Democratic Party. You follow the meekly-serve-them-and-naively-hope-someday-they’ll-change approach favored by especially dumb people. I support the hit-them-where-it-hurts-and-force-them-to-stop-funding-genocide approach.

You imagine that Harris who has allied herself with Cheney and enabled a genocide is going to be “movable”! You can’t really be that gullible, can you? Harris has received enormous sums from AIPAC and she’ll do what she’s told.



Fueling the brutal war in Ukraine is not in America’s interests.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/02/10/niall_ferguson_the_net_beneficiary_of_the_ukraine_war_is_china.html

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I like the way the orange clouds swirl with the black.

Very pretty
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[JohnDB]

I like the way the orange clouds swirl with the black.

Very pretty
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One of the most expensive clouds money can buy.