On guns: "Do the right thing!"

[BasicHumanUnit]

The sick Left adamantly teaches young children that a moral compass is a horrible thing, that men belong in girls bathrooms, that America is fundamentally a racist hateful place, that the unborn are nothing more than blobs of flushable tissue..... and that God is a fairy tale........

Then demand you ignore their stupidity, accept their policies and give up all your rights to them as the solution.

We're dealing with mentally ill, if not rabidly sick people who are convinced you are the problem,

 

[scruffy]

The solution isn't simple. The solution is changing the way people vote. In order to change the way people vote you have to change the Constitution. To change the Constitution you need to get those two parties that benefit from the current system to change to another system that won't benefit them.

Beyond that, the reason why Proportional Representation works better is:

1) There's more oversight. More political parties to watch out for the corruption. Democrats don't get much pointing out Republican corruption because the Republicans will then point out Democrat corruption. A "you scratch my back" scenario.

2) It's easier to change political parties.

In the UK in the early 1990s this anti-EU political party called UKIP was founded. UKIP is kind of further right, more right than the Tory Party (equivalent of the Republicans). The UK has FPTP just like the USA.

In Germany in 2013 an anti-EU, further right political party called AfD was founded. Germany has PR.

In 2015 UKIP gained 12.6% of the vote in the UK General Election (pre-Brexit). They gained one seat out of 650 seats.

In 2017 the AfD gained 12.6% of the vote in the German Federal Election.


The difference here is that with PR every party can be viable in a short space of time. In the UK lots of people wanted to vote UKIP, and lots did. But because UKIP needed to win more votes than anyone else in a small space, they couldn't.

In fact they had 3.8 million votes to the Lib Dems 2.4 million votes, and the Lib Dems won 8 seats because they have certain areas where they're a viable party.

With PR if people don't like a certain party's policies, they'll vote someone else, which forces the main parties to make sure their policies are in line with what the people want.

In the US the two main parties tell people what they want. They stand on HUGE platforms and people get to decide which is least worst.

UKIP stood on one issue. People will vote on one issue. You can't do that in the US.


If you look at a list of least corrupt countries, they mostly vote Proportional Representation, except Singapore, which is more or less a democratic dictatorship anyway.

If you want an issue like gun control to be SENSIBLE, then you need political parties that are sensible. You get this with PR, because they know if they're not sensible they could easily lose all their seats at the next election. In the US the Dems or Reps could stand on a platform of mating giant bees with cows and they'd know no third party would stand a chance even then.

We have no interest in being like anyone in Europe

Thank you anyway

 

[j-mac]

Ah, insults. By, forever.

Stupid comments, get stupid replies…do better.

 

[Canon Shooter]

What's costing a 'classroom full of kids' is the unwillingness of the schools to protect those they have the responsibility to protect. Hell, they don't think their own lives are worth protecting.

"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

 

[M14 Shooter]

Tell me what an “assault gun” is….

 

[Dagosa]

The guns, they are specifically the reason we are not yet slaves to psychopaths such as Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, the Clinton's, Obama's, Gates, Fauci ect ect ect....

Oh, you guys are real bright.

 

[Dagosa]

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It takes a while but gun a holics admit what everyone else knows. They have a small dick.

 

[Dagosa]

Some people think America is a big candy store and that because there is so much candy that they are entitled to have some of it without paying for it. When they find out they have to pay for the candy they get mad and kill people.

You’re talking about right wingers, right.

 

[Dagosa]

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All carried by permitted and legal gun owners with training. Just the opposite of what gun a holics want. They want juveniles, felons, mentally ill and criminals to have firearms. Because for years, the nra had a convicted felon for a president, upon his leaving it’s hard to find anyone qualified….there just aren‘t enough convicted felons. The NRA has supported felons being legal gun carriers to recruit more people to fill their positions.

 

[Canon Shooter]

All carried by permitted and legal gun owners training. Just the opposite of what gun a holics want.

Well, that's just a lie...

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The left has come up with loads of suggestions. You just don't want to hear them.

You leftists have passed tons of gun laws, the beat goes on

Now what?

Frigid goes limp

 

[Dagosa]

Well, that's just a lie...

What ? You guys support the not having back ground checks for buyers and so called “ constitutional “ carry so any breathing humanoid doesn’t need a permit to carry

 

[Dagosa]

You leftists have passed tons of gun laws, the beat goes on

Now what?

Frigid goes limp

Really ? There is no federal law keeping you from privately and unknowingly selling a gun to a 15 year old or felon or wild pig in heat. Just take the money, hand over a gun and ask no questions. You’re covered. Acting dumb to protect yourself from prosecution comes easy to gun a holics who are the primary movers of firearms to the criminal world.

 

[Canon Shooter]

What ? You guys support the not having back ground checks for buyers and so called “ constitutional “ carry so any breathing humanoid doesn’t need a permit to carry

You're an idiot.

I've never; not once, called for no background checks, and I've never typed the phrase "Constitutional carry" until I did it in this post.

Pull your head out of your ass, asshole, and stop painting with such a broad brush. You might even look less stupid...

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Really ? There is no federal law keeping you from privately and unknowingly selling a gun to a 15 year old or felon or wild pig in heat. Just take the money, hand over a gun and ask no questions. You’re covered. Acting dumb to protect yourself from prosecution comes easy to gun a holics who are the primary movers of firearms to the criminal world.

Who the FCK are you?

 

[Dagosa]

Who the FCK are you?

You an owl ?

 

[Dagosa]

You're an idiot.

I've never; not once, called for no background checks, and I've never typed the phrase "Constitutional carry" until I did it in this post.

Pull your head out of your ass, asshole, and stop painting with such a broad brush. You might even look less stupid...

So, you support universal background checks.

 

[Canon Shooter]

So, you support universal background checks.

I have no problem with background checks...

 

[Dagosa]

I have no problem with background checks...

Universal background checks….for every firearm transfer of ownership.

 

[Moonglow]

This was no NRA member...
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Put the blame where it belongs.
On a demented individual that our permissive society seems to making a lot of the last three decades.

This shit is far deeper than guns.

That person had nothing to do with a shooting. Why do you lie?