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longknife

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I'm going to attend the GOP Caucus next Tuesday and I'm lost at who to vote for.

I have to admit that I've leaned towards Trump since he announced. Why? Because he's a business man and not a professional lawyer/politician, the people who've gotten us into the mess we're in. A man who know how to take on problems and select the right people to help him do so. In other words, a manager.

I also like Doctor Carson a great deal. The perfect example of what someone can do if they fight the good fight to escape the slavery created by the Democrat War on Poverty. The son us a single, black woman, he got the most out of a less than ideal education system and elevated himself to be one of the best in his chosen field. He is a religious man although his form of religion is not one I'd chose. And, while it's not apparent, he too knows how to face real challenges and overcome them with the right people.

I'm sick of having an inept lap dog in the Oval Office who seems to be nothing but a puppet on the strings of behind-the-scenes movers and shakers like Valerie Jarrett. I want a REAL Chief Executive. That's why I've also been trying to find a governor to support.

Chris Christie just seems unelectable to me. There something about Kasich that just grates on me in spite of his actions in Ohio – perhaps his constant telling me all about it. I admire Jeb Bush – but we just don't need another Bush in the White House right now IMHO.

So, now we come down to it – Cruz or Rubio.

The fact that so many establishment and media types don't like him almost attracts me to him in spite of him being another attorney/politician. He's sort of a hometown Vegas guy who knows what the average person goes through in life. But the Harvard law degree also grates on me. I've got to admit that he's probably the best-informed candidate on the US constitution. But, what makes him qualified to be the Chief Executive?

Rubio. Well, in spite of what I've learned about him, I can't get excited over him.

So, where does that leave me?

Trump excites people and just may bring out the sit-on-your-duff, middle of the road Americans who will speak up for WE THE PEOPLE and not the DC Inner Circle. But. Can he be trusted to keep his word? Or will he be yet another disappointing Hope and Change big mouth who ends up promising lots of things and doing others?

Most important of all – I WANT THE DEMOCRAT NOMINEE TO LOSE. I don't care who he or she is. I also want to retain and even increase the GOP leads in Congress, as well as state and local elections.

Can Cruz be the kind of candidate to create the excitement necessary to do this?

Or will The Donald?

So, where do I turn? Who do I support?

Would love to see some reasoned and non-hate filled responses.

Thanks.
 
Operative point---- "TRUMP EXCITES PEOPLE" I, SO, agree-----Obama bores me----Hillary ANNOYS me, Carson is a nice guy-----but he is a neurosurgeon-----I will not tell you what people in large hospitals call neurosurgeons---(nothing bad---
just not -----the kind of stuff a president should be)
 
I'm going to attend the GOP Caucus next Tuesday and I'm lost at who to vote for.

I have to admit that I've leaned towards Trump since he announced. Why? Because he's a business man and not a professional lawyer/politician, the people who've gotten us into the mess we're in. A man who know how to take on problems and select the right people to help him do so. In other words, a manager.

I also like Doctor Carson a great deal. The perfect example of what someone can do if they fight the good fight to escape the slavery created by the Democrat War on Poverty. The son us a single, black woman, he got the most out of a less than ideal education system and elevated himself to be one of the best in his chosen field. He is a religious man although his form of religion is not one I'd chose. And, while it's not apparent, he too knows how to face real challenges and overcome them with the right people.

I'm sick of having an inept lap dog in the Oval Office who seems to be nothing but a puppet on the strings of behind-the-scenes movers and shakers like Valerie Jarrett. I want a REAL Chief Executive. That's why I've also been trying to find a governor to support.

Chris Christie just seems unelectable to me. There something about Kasich that just grates on me in spite of his actions in Ohio – perhaps his constant telling me all about it. I admire Jeb Bush – but we just don't need another Bush in the White House right now IMHO.

So, now we come down to it – Cruz or Rubio.

The fact that so many establishment and media types don't like him almost attracts me to him in spite of him being another attorney/politician. He's sort of a hometown Vegas guy who knows what the average person goes through in life. But the Harvard law degree also grates on me. I've got to admit that he's probably the best-informed candidate on the US constitution. But, what makes him qualified to be the Chief Executive?

Rubio. Well, in spite of what I've learned about him, I can't get excited over him.

So, where does that leave me?

Trump excites people and just may bring out the sit-on-your-duff, middle of the road Americans who will speak up for WE THE PEOPLE and not the DC Inner Circle. But. Can he be trusted to keep his word? Or will he be yet another disappointing Hope and Change big mouth who ends up promising lots of things and doing others?

Most important of all – I WANT THE DEMOCRAT NOMINEE TO LOSE. I don't care who he or she is. I also want to retain and even increase the GOP leads in Congress, as well as state and local elections.

Can Cruz be the kind of candidate to create the excitement necessary to do this?

Or will The Donald?

So, where do I turn? Who do I support?

Would love to see some reasoned and non-hate filled responses.

Thanks.

At a basic level, being a businessman, whether successful or not, is in no way an indication of a good government executive. Business exploits people to enrich itself; government is supposed to do the opposite. Not to mention Rump has yet to campaign on anything but emotional blusterfluff and personal attacks.

I thought Christie had dropped out?

Rubio just doesn't seem old enough to drive (literally), and Cruz just comes off as a whore. Bush is a Bush, 'nuff said. Frankly the only guy who seems to want to talk nuts and bolts without pandering down to people is Kasich. Never thought I'd say that about a guy who worked at Fox Noise but -- there it is.
 
Operative point---- "TRUMP EXCITES PEOPLE" I, SO, agree-----Obama bores me----Hillary ANNOYS me, Carson is a nice guy-----but he is a neurosurgeon-----I will not tell you what people in large hospitals call neurosurgeons---(nothing bad---
just not -----the kind of stuff a president should be)

Exactly, and a Chief Executive isn't supposed to be a Chief Exciter. He's supposed to execute. And there's nothing exciting about that. Anybody who votes based on being excited is basically part of the Problem.
 
I understand your dilemma, Longknife, for I am probably in the same boat. I don't care for the immigration stances of Cruz and Rubio, Carson and Kasich I like but they are not going to be possible candidates, they are too low in the polls. Christie, who I liked, is out. Trump, who I supported has such a big ego, I worry about the chip on his shoulder and his thin skin. He has to be bigger than that.

I could count on Trump to select well qualified individuals for his cabinet and advisers, he wouldn't be beholden to the party, donors or lobbyists. I think he would guarantee us a stronger nation militarily and the trade deals would be something we've needed for years. I want the wall at the southern border. Has he promised too much? Probably. But look at Obama and what he promised. He promised a healing nation and gave us more division.

So, who should you vote for? You know best. But I would select the candidate that matches closest to my ideology. And pray.
 
Don't know that I can help much. Agree with you on Bush - don't need another one. Carson is too soft-spoken and quiet for me - never could get a good read on him - (and don't ever let a neurosurgeon do any surgery on you - dicked around with neurosurgeons for 6 months before seeing an orthopedic man who immediately showed me my spinal cord was almost crushed in half through my cervical spine). Cruz is way too smarmy for my liking and Rubio is not far behind.

I early voted for Trump - all the way through the ballot. May he is or isn't an ass ... but what have we had in Congress for decades now other than asses on both sides of the aisle, thieving, eyeball deep in sordid extramarital affairs, wheeling and dealing, lying, etc.
 
If you don't want a lapdog then you are fortunate in having two from which to choose.

If you're even a little into political correctness then Cruz might have some appeal.

But if you're sick of all the bullshit and want to bleed liberalsim white then it's Trump.

Cruz might be an acceptable candidate under normal circumstances but think your toilet. Merely flushing isn't enough to get rid of a serious clog. You need a damned plunger. A big powerful plunger.
 
I thank every one of your for your reasoned and CIVIL responses. They are most refreshing.
 
Operative point---- "TRUMP EXCITES PEOPLE" I, SO, agree-----Obama bores me----Hillary ANNOYS me, Carson is a nice guy-----but he is a neurosurgeon-----I will not tell you what people in large hospitals call neurosurgeons---(nothing bad---
just not -----the kind of stuff a president should be)

Exactly, and a Chief Executive isn't supposed to be a Chief Exciter. He's supposed to execute. And there's nothing exciting about that. Anybody who votes based on being excited is basically part of the Problem.

Oh lay off-----you know JFK got in on EXCITEMENT
 
i used to be a cruz supporter

there just became too much crap out of his campaign

things you would expect from a progressive

his version of voter "card check" sent in the mail

the stunt with carson suspending his campaign

photo chopping rubio

then for good measure

he who is supposed to be "fighting the establishment"

gets a super pac from who of all people Mitch McConnell's attorney

--LOL
 
Trump, because he IS a business man, uses his own money, can't be bought. Just gotta get a muzzle on him from time to time.

Cruz is a lowlife, cheats, and is scummy. Too many people, even his own, dislike him. They ALL can't be wrong.

Carson is too sleepy. I mean, he has to rest between campaign stops? What's he going to do when something really bad happens? Take a nap? Plus, he thinks the pyramids were made to hold grain. GRAIN? Pahlease. Dude is not only sleepy, he is ignorant on many things. Great as a surgeon, sucks at anything other than that.

Vote with your instincts.
 
Trump, because he IS a business man, uses his own money, can't be bought. Just gotta get a muzzle on him from time to time.

Cruz is a lowlife, cheats, and is scummy. Too many people, even his own, dislike him. They ALL can't be wrong.

Carson is too sleepy. I mean, he has to rest between campaign stops? What's he going to do when something really bad happens? Take a nap? Plus, he thinks the pyramids were made to hold grain. GRAIN? Pahlease. Dude is not only sleepy, he is ignorant on many things. Great as a surgeon, sucks at anything other than that.

Vote with your instincts.

change-----we need change------we already had Hillary-------we had jeb like stuff----
etc etc---------we need a casino owner
 
I'm going to attend the GOP Caucus next Tuesday and I'm lost at who to vote for.

I have to admit that I've leaned towards Trump since he announced. Why? Because he's a business man and not a professional lawyer/politician, the people who've gotten us into the mess we're in. A man who know how to take on problems and select the right people to help him do so. In other words, a manager.

I also like Doctor Carson a great deal. The perfect example of what someone can do if they fight the good fight to escape the slavery created by the Democrat War on Poverty. The son us a single, black woman, he got the most out of a less than ideal education system and elevated himself to be one of the best in his chosen field. He is a religious man although his form of religion is not one I'd chose. And, while it's not apparent, he too knows how to face real challenges and overcome them with the right people.

I'm sick of having an inept lap dog in the Oval Office who seems to be nothing but a puppet on the strings of behind-the-scenes movers and shakers like Valerie Jarrett. I want a REAL Chief Executive. That's why I've also been trying to find a governor to support.

Chris Christie just seems unelectable to me. There something about Kasich that just grates on me in spite of his actions in Ohio – perhaps his constant telling me all about it. I admire Jeb Bush – but we just don't need another Bush in the White House right now IMHO.

So, now we come down to it – Cruz or Rubio.

The fact that so many establishment and media types don't like him almost attracts me to him in spite of him being another attorney/politician. He's sort of a hometown Vegas guy who knows what the average person goes through in life. But the Harvard law degree also grates on me. I've got to admit that he's probably the best-informed candidate on the US constitution. But, what makes him qualified to be the Chief Executive?

Rubio. Well, in spite of what I've learned about him, I can't get excited over him.

So, where does that leave me?

Trump excites people and just may bring out the sit-on-your-duff, middle of the road Americans who will speak up for WE THE PEOPLE and not the DC Inner Circle. But. Can he be trusted to keep his word? Or will he be yet another disappointing Hope and Change big mouth who ends up promising lots of things and doing others?

Most important of all – I WANT THE DEMOCRAT NOMINEE TO LOSE. I don't care who he or she is. I also want to retain and even increase the GOP leads in Congress, as well as state and local elections.

Can Cruz be the kind of candidate to create the excitement necessary to do this?

Or will The Donald?

So, where do I turn? Who do I support?

Would love to see some reasoned and non-hate filled responses.

Thanks.
Trump is a Clinton plant.
You have to look at how people have run their lives.
Cruz or Rubio are the best.
 
I think I read that Mark Cuban wants to be VP, lol. Casino Owner and Basketball Owner. That would be unique. :lol:
 
Operative point---- "TRUMP EXCITES PEOPLE" I, SO, agree-----Obama bores me----Hillary ANNOYS me, Carson is a nice guy-----but he is a neurosurgeon-----I will not tell you what people in large hospitals call neurosurgeons---(nothing bad---
just not -----the kind of stuff a president should be)

Exactly, and a Chief Executive isn't supposed to be a Chief Exciter. He's supposed to execute. And there's nothing exciting about that. Anybody who votes based on being excited is basically part of the Problem.

Oh lay off-----you know JFK got in on EXCITEMENT

Thank you for pointing that out. I clearly remember the campaign and how nobody cared what his positions were. He was just a good looking war hero with a 10 wife.
 
Tough choices, but defeating Hillary is of paramount importance. If she is the Democratic nominee, Rubio might be best. If Sanders, I would go with Cruz. If someone else, I would pick Trump.

Good luck!
 
Tough choices, but defeating Hillary is of paramount importance. If she is the Democratic nominee, Rubio might be best. If Sanders, I would go with Cruz. If someone else, I would pick Trump.

Good luck!


i think hillary would be easy to defeat

she is such a frikkin puke

sanders on the other hand could win

i would watch out for sanders

although he is a commie

he comes across as honest and sincere
 
I'm going to attend the GOP Caucus next Tuesday and I'm lost at who to vote for.

I have to admit that I've leaned towards Trump since he announced. Why? Because he's a business man and not a professional lawyer/politician, the people who've gotten us into the mess we're in. A man who know how to take on problems and select the right people to help him do so. In other words, a manager.

I also like Doctor Carson a great deal. The perfect example of what someone can do if they fight the good fight to escape the slavery created by the Democrat War on Poverty. The son us a single, black woman, he got the most out of a less than ideal education system and elevated himself to be one of the best in his chosen field. He is a religious man although his form of religion is not one I'd chose. And, while it's not apparent, he too knows how to face real challenges and overcome them with the right people.

I'm sick of having an inept lap dog in the Oval Office who seems to be nothing but a puppet on the strings of behind-the-scenes movers and shakers like Valerie Jarrett. I want a REAL Chief Executive. That's why I've also been trying to find a governor to support.

Chris Christie just seems unelectable to me. There something about Kasich that just grates on me in spite of his actions in Ohio – perhaps his constant telling me all about it. I admire Jeb Bush – but we just don't need another Bush in the White House right now IMHO.

So, now we come down to it – Cruz or Rubio.

The fact that so many establishment and media types don't like him almost attracts me to him in spite of him being another attorney/politician. He's sort of a hometown Vegas guy who knows what the average person goes through in life. But the Harvard law degree also grates on me. I've got to admit that he's probably the best-informed candidate on the US constitution. But, what makes him qualified to be the Chief Executive?

Rubio. Well, in spite of what I've learned about him, I can't get excited over him.

So, where does that leave me?

Trump excites people and just may bring out the sit-on-your-duff, middle of the road Americans who will speak up for WE THE PEOPLE and not the DC Inner Circle. But. Can he be trusted to keep his word? Or will he be yet another disappointing Hope and Change big mouth who ends up promising lots of things and doing others?

Most important of all – I WANT THE DEMOCRAT NOMINEE TO LOSE. I don't care who he or she is. I also want to retain and even increase the GOP leads in Congress, as well as state and local elections.

Can Cruz be the kind of candidate to create the excitement necessary to do this?

Or will The Donald?

So, where do I turn? Who do I support?

Would love to see some reasoned and non-hate filled responses.

Thanks.

At a basic level, being a businessman, whether successful or not, is in no way an indication of a good government executive. Business exploits people to enrich itself; government is supposed to do the opposite. Not to mention Rump has yet to campaign on anything but emotional blusterfluff and personal attacks.

I thought Christie had dropped out?

Rubio just doesn't seem old enough to drive (literally), and Cruz just comes off as a whore. Bush is a Bush, 'nuff said. Frankly the only guy who seems to want to talk nuts and bolts without pandering down to people is Kasich. Never thought I'd say that about a guy who worked at Fox Noise but -- there it is.

Our government is in dire need of more people with some business savvy.
 

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