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OK Racists, It's Time to do the Math.

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The claim has been consistently made that blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 50 or more percent of the crime. That is inaccurate but the racists want to talk shit about per capita. When shown that per capita reveals that the difference between blacks and white per capita is 6 people, the racists continue. So because they do so, it is time to do the math.

We will use stats from the most recent uniform crime reports Table 43-Arrests by Race/Ethnicity

View attachment 498100
View attachment 498102

I will use 2019 population numbers.

The population of U.S. in 2019 was 329,064,917.

6,816,975 people were arrested for crimes. 6,816,975/329,064,917= 0.0207162011

2 percent of the American population participated in criminal activity.

4,729,290 were white. 4,729,290/329,064,917= 0.0143719058

1.4 percent of the U.S population were whites who participated in crime.

1,815,144 were black. 1,815,144/329,064,917=0.00551606661

Just over 1/2 of 1 percent of the U.S population were blacks who participated in crime.

Whites participated in more than double the crime as blacks.


Here endeth the lesson.
Hey bucko! Read your post. Haven't you heard? Math is racist, because due to the fact poor blacks can't be rational or put 2+2 together. exchange_math_education.jpeg - Washington Times
Just face the truth old dumb white ho.
XXOOXXOO.
Just face the truth. 0.005 percent is not a high crime rate.
It is when it's being committed by a minority of the population...
IM2 doesn’t understand that usually when we are addressing crime stats, we are most concerned with violent crimes, which the majority is not committed by whites.
 

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Another thing you've got to ask yourselves too is that the small drops of Latino, Asian, Eskimo, Native American folk, combined make up a total % of the population similar to that of the total black population but for the similar % of them when added together, the black still commit considerably more crime than them combined too.

The creator of the thread has had an absolute nightmare.
No only you racist have because no matter how much you try twisting this, it proves my point.
Can you explain how it proves your point, please.

This I've gotta hear.
Another thing you've got to ask yourselves too is that the small drops of Latino, Asian, Eskimo, Native American folk, combined make up a total % of the population similar to that of the total black population but for the similar % of them when added together, the black still commit considerably more crime than them combined too.

The creator of the thread has had an absolute nightmare.
No only you racist have because no matter how much you try twisting this, it proves my point.
Can you explain how it proves your point, please.

This I've gotta hear.
Ok, let me explain this again using Black Sands "applied math."

According to BlackSand, for every 100 blacks/whites, 4.6 blacks are committing crimes and 2.8 whites are. This means that for every 100 blacks, 95 blacks are not committing crimes and 97 whites are not committing crimes. So the claim of this high black crime rate is non existent. Hence BlackSand provrs my point.

And let's not get stupid. Whites like you guys want to multiply things by 5 instead of looking at the fact you have a problem. But if you multiply things by 5 to make the populations the same, there are things that no longer exist for blacks. We would have more economic opportunity. We would have equal representation relative to numbers of police, lawyers, judges, and political representatives. Things would be dramatically different. Yet those like you and others here fail to understand this. No matter what, you continue arguing this ridiculous per capita idiocy.

Since whites have 5 times the population and want to make that an issue, let’s start multiplying by 5. Blacks have over 2 million businesses right now, let’s multiply that by 5 and then see what the outcome will be. Now there are 10 million black owned businesses and more jobs in the black community. Let us reduce our unemployment rate by 5 to 2.6 percent. Blacks live at a 24 percent rate of poverty so reduce that by 5 to make it 4.5 percent..

The black economy now grows to 6.5 trillion instead of the 1.3 trillion we have now. Blacks now have 5 times the amount of money to spend and invest. What happens them? All kinds of community development, that is what. Now property values increase in the black community and because of that we have more money for our schools. Let us multiply the number of blacks who go to college by 5, there are now 8.5 million blacks in college or getting vocational training. That equals approximately 1 out of every 5 black citizen receiving post-secondary training. This results in a more highly trained and qualified black workforce which increases employment. So this increase in population and jobs lowers the unemployment rate meaning fewer blacks are on government assistance because they have stable employment. Youth crime is reduced even further because youth now have facilities and jobs available in their immediate communities. What happens to crime? It reduces itself by 5 from 26 percent to 5.2 percent. Why? because the factors that create crime are reduced, so then crime is reduced. Yet to the racist nothing else changes. The only change is crime increases. The use of per capita fails miserably and is used by racist whites to deny a severe crime problem THEY need to address instead of trying to preach to us. For if we apply per capita like you racists do, when a white person has 5 dollars and I have 1, it is the same amount.
That post is pure aids and gave my eyes cancer - even skim reading it.

Your logic falls down everywhere on it's first point when you try to say 95 blacks in every 100 aren't committing crime & 97 whites in every 100 aren't committing crime because you are taking the small value of 5 and 3 in the first instance per 100 folk, but ignoring the fact that them 3 of a difference is multiplied literally hundreds of millions of times when you take the whole population of the USA into account and it gives you a vast metric and the true picture.

The rest of your comment has zero to do with anything (i.e economy, money to invest, communities, jobs etc) because that's a conspiracy that the race baiters wheel out to try and prove systemic racism exists where it doesn't.

There's nothing stopping black people making something of themselves - they have even more opportunities than your average white person does in the USA at the moment with affirmative action schemes, special programes, diversity quotas, special scholarships that exclude white kids from similarly poor backgrounds etc.

For people like you the need and demand for racism outstrips the amount of tangible racism that there actually is.
You want desperately to believe your narrative, but then when we see the real numbers it shows that whites commit far more crime. Now that is the reality. I base my argument on the real total number of actual criminals. Your ppst is just a load of white racist crap you refuse to give up. Everything I said was correct. You believe a bunch of lies and try arguing those lies against the truth. Whites still today get the mot given to them. Whites have benefitted the most from Affirmative Action, all those special things do not exist. Diversity quitas? Ha! If they actually existed whites would still get the majority of things. You really don't know what the fuck you are talking about. You live in the UK, go get a cup of tea, some fish and chips then shut the fuck up.
Whites have benefited the most from affirmative action? lmao what a doosh bag.

You can't even interpret your own numbers correctly - that's what makes it hilarious. Blacks commit almost 50% more crime than whites in America - FACT - you even said so yourself with your 97 and 95 out of every 100 - that's 3 and 5 respectively - 2 of a difference - 5 divided by 2 = 2.5 which gives you almost 50% of that number, your number.

You know for someone that's big on so-called racism, that was a nice little display of it at the end there. Hypocrite.

Whites have benefitted the most from Affirmative Action.

On June 17, 2013 Sally Kohn wrote an article in Time titled, “Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.” Kohn provides this historical backdrop for the implementation including the reasons why President Johnson added women: “Originally, women weren’t even included in legislation attempting to level the playing field in education and employment. The first affirmative-action measure in America was an executive order signed by President Kennedy in 1961 requiring that federal contractors “take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin.” In 1967, President Johnson amended this, and a subsequent measure included sex, recognizing that women also faced many discriminatory barriers and hurdles to equal opportunity.” Kohn continues by stating that while Affirmative Action has helped people of color, it has disproportionately benefitted white women.

“While people of color, individually and as groups, have been helped by affirmative action in the subsequent years, data and studies suggest women — white women in particular — have benefited disproportionately. According to one study, in 1995, 6 million women, the majority of whom were white, had jobs they wouldn’t have otherwise held but for affirmative action.”

Sally Kohn

The National Womens Law Center did a study on Affirmatives Action and found that: “Women of color have lagged particularly far behind in both employment and education. For example, in 1998, the median weekly salary for Black women was $400 compared to $468 for white women and $615 for white men. Hispanic women earned a median weekly income of only $337. Even in sectors where women have made inroads into management, minority women continue to be underrepresented. In the banking industry, only 2.6% of executive, managerial and administrative jobs were held by Black women, and 5% by Hispanic women, compared to 37.6% by white women. In the hospital industry, Black and Hispanic women each held 4.6% of these jobs, while white women held 50.2%. At the top, women of color represented only 11.2% of all corporate officers in Fortune 500 companies. Women of color also earn fewer college degrees than white women. In 1997, white women made up 39% of college undergraduates and 42% of graduate students; minority women were only 16% of undergraduates and 10% of graduate students.”

Tim Wise had a paper published in the National Women’s Studies Association Journal in the fall of 1998 titled, “Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action”. His paper was about the reluctance of some white women to advocate for Affirmative Action despites the gains white women had achieved from the policy over the 30 years at that time, due to the policy.

“Thanks in large measure to affirmative action and civil rights protections that opened up previously restricted opportunities to women of all colors, from 1972-1993:

— The percentage of women architects increased from 3% to nearly 19% of the total;

— The percentage of women doctors more than doubled from 10% to 22% of all doctors;

— The percentage of women lawyers grew from 4% to 23% of the national total;

— The percentage of female engineers went from less than 1% to nearly 9%;

— The percentage of female chemists grew from 10% to 30% of all chemists; and,

— The percentage of female college faculty went from 28% to 42% of all faculty.

The gender benefits of affirmative action have extended beyond economically privileged women, expanding opportunity for working-class women as well: The 1985 Perkins Act, which requires states to set aside 10.5% of federal vocational-education funds for girls and women — such as displaced homemakers and single-mothers — has helped these women find new jobs to support themselves and their families. In Florida, thanks to this program, more than 70% of women receiving voc-ed funds found new jobs, at pay levels averaging twice their prior salaries (National Coalition for Women and Girls in Education 1995).”


These increases in white women graduating college then entering into higher paying fields formerly dominated by men increased the earnings of white women. Since white men were already disproportionately represented in high paying positions, as white women married those men, their earnings combined with his further increased white wealth. White women have been the number one beneficiary of Affirmative Action. At the same time, white women have been the fiercest in opposition to the policy.

The numbers I presented show that 1.4 percent of the United States population are whites who commit crimes and 0.005 percent of the U.S population are black and commit crimes. You are trying to make a claim based on per capita, not the actual nubers of participants in crime. Hence you are the one who can't interpret numbers. You want so desperately to cling to your racist be;ief. Blacks do not commit 50 percent more crime. And since blacks, ad asias live in the UUK and I did not say anything about race, once again you showed your idiocy by whining about what I said in the last sentence. Funny how I have never said things like that to Tommy Tainant and he lives in the UK. You really don't know wtf you're talking about, stfu.

Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women | NWLC

Tim Wise, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action, September 23, 1998, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action
Another long cut and pasted bunch of bullshit. How can you prove white women have benefitted?
 

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Another long cut and pasted bunch of bullshit. How can you prove white women have benefitted?
Everyone knows RACISM has it's roots in EVIL.

See this RACIST POS for what he is!!!
 
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Since WHITES have used rave to define this society, don't dodge the issue by now pretending. Race suddenly becomes unimportant to whites when whites are shown they are the ones with thr problem. That's why you suggested I read people like Thomas Sowell but you don't tell whites to look at anything. You only make these statements when blacks point out the larger problems whites have or that they created. I do not see you in ANY thread by whites saying these same things.
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Whatever problems Black and Whites have are Our Problems.
I am not ever going to post what you want me to, because what you want is fucked up and covered in the stench of racial division.

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Well, he's a racist and a black supremacist...... what do you expect?
I am neither. But when a person suffers from white fragility this is what they think.
 

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No, that's actually not true. We are the absolute best at it, but we don't engage in nearly as much of it as others. It's just that we cause a shitload more casualties than any others do, when we finally do decide to get down.

So we agree then ? If white ppl are the best at being violent (as you just said) that means they are the most violent.
Who was the best heavyweight fighter? Who's had the most heavyweight fights?
 
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"Another long cut and pasted bunch of bullshit. How can you prove white women have benefitted?"

I find it funny how cutting and pasting is all good when whites post their bullshit about black people.

Molly, the links were provided. The fact remains that white women have benefitted the most from AA. Hate to bust your little racist bubble like that. But it is a fact.

The National Womens Law Center did a study on Affirmative Action and found that:

“Women of color have lagged particularly far behind in both employment and education. For example, in 1998, the median weekly salary for Black women was $400 compared to $468 for white women and $615 for white men. Hispanic women earned a median weekly income of only $337. Even in sectors where women have made inroads into management, minority women continue to be underrepresented. In the banking industry, only 2.6% of executive, managerial and administrative jobs were held by Black women, and 5% by Hispanic women, compared to 37.6% by white women. In the hospital industry, Black and Hispanic women each held 4.6% of these jobs, while white women held 50.2%. At the top, women of color represented only 11.2% of all corporate officers in Fortune 500 companies. Women of color also earn fewer college degrees than white women. In 1997, white women made up 39% of college undergraduates and 42% of graduate students; minority women were only 16% of undergraduates and 10% of graduate students.”

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women | NWLC

"According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million white women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."


Myth:
Under affirmative action, minorities and women receive preferences.
Reality:
Affirmative action does not require preferences, nor do women and minorities assume that they will be given preference. Race, gender, and national origin are factors that can be considered when hiring or accepting qualified applicants. Hiring qualified women and minorities is similar to the preferences given to veterans in hiring and to children of alumni in college admissions. There are also other preferences used in selecting qualified candidates. For example, when private colleges and universities value geographic diversity on their campuses, an out-of-state student may be admitted before an in-state student. Some colleges and universities consider athletic abilities and/or evidence of leadership skills in addition to academic qualifications.
Myth:
Affirmative action is really quotas.
Reality:
Affirmative action provides women and minorities with full educational and workplace opportunities. Under existing law, quotas are illegal.

 
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The claim has been consistently made that blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 50 or more percent of the crime. That is inaccurate but the racists want to talk shit about per capita. When shown that per capita reveals that the difference between blacks and white per capita is 6 people, the racists continue. So because they do so, it is time to do the math.

We will use stats from the most recent uniform crime reports Table 43-Arrests by Race/Ethnicity

View attachment 498100
View attachment 498102

I will use 2019 population numbers.

The population of U.S. in 2019 was 329,064,917.

6,816,975 people were arrested for crimes. 6,816,975/329,064,917= 0.0207162011

2 percent of the American population participated in criminal activity.

4,729,290 were white. 4,729,290/329,064,917= 0.0143719058

1.4 percent of the U.S population were whites who participated in crime.

1,815,144 were black. 1,815,144/329,064,917=0.00551606661

Just over 1/2 of 1 percent of the U.S population were blacks who participated in crime.

Whites participated in more than double the crime as blacks.


Here endeth the lesson.
VIOLENT crime, moron. No one cares if their neighbor cheated on his taxes. Violent crimes are the crimes that really matter.
And white people are the most violent ppl on earth.
No, that's actually not true.
We are the absolute best at it, but we don't engage in nearly as much of it as others.

It's just that we cause a shitload more casualties than any others do, when we finally do decide to get down.
Our history shows that whites do the most of it.
 
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Whites lead America in violent crime annually. But they excuse their violence in every argument by using per capita. But even per capita does not support them. Believing that because you have 100 million people means you get to commit the most crime is stupid. Especially when your community has the most money, wealth, facilities and resources that are avialable to make it so that you have a zero crime rate not 68 percent.
 

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"Another long cut and pasted bunch of bullshit. How can you prove white women have benefitted?"

I find it funny how cutting and pasting is all good when whites post their bullshit about black people.

Molly, the links were provided. The fact remains that white women have benefitted the most from AA. Hate to bust your little racist bubble like that. But it is a fact.

The National Womens Law Center did a study on Affirmative Action and found that:

“Women of color have lagged particularly far behind in both employment and education. For example, in 1998, the median weekly salary for Black women was $400 compared to $468 for white women and $615 for white men. Hispanic women earned a median weekly income of only $337. Even in sectors where women have made inroads into management, minority women continue to be underrepresented. In the banking industry, only 2.6% of executive, managerial and administrative jobs were held by Black women, and 5% by Hispanic women, compared to 37.6% by white women. In the hospital industry, Black and Hispanic women each held 4.6% of these jobs, while white women held 50.2%. At the top, women of color represented only 11.2% of all corporate officers in Fortune 500 companies. Women of color also earn fewer college degrees than white women. In 1997, white women made up 39% of college undergraduates and 42% of graduate students; minority women were only 16% of undergraduates and 10% of graduate students.”

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women | NWLC

"According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million white women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."


Myth:
Under affirmative action, minorities and women receive preferences.
Reality:
Affirmative action does not require preferences, nor do women and minorities assume that they will be given preference. Race, gender, and national origin are factors that can be considered when hiring or accepting qualified applicants. Hiring qualified women and minorities is similar to the preferences given to veterans in hiring and to children of alumni in college admissions. There are also other preferences used in selecting qualified candidates. For example, when private colleges and universities value geographic diversity on their campuses, an out-of-state student may be admitted before an in-state student. Some colleges and universities consider athletic abilities and/or evidence of leadership skills in addition to academic qualifications.
Myth:
Affirmative action is really quotas.
Reality:
Affirmative action provides women and minorities with full educational and workplace opportunities. Under existing law, quotas are illegal.

My racist bubble? Lol, there you go again calling me something I am certainly not. Like I said, prove white women have benefitted. Your long, boring cut and pastes are redundant but not proof. I have never gotten a job because I am a white woman. You apparently don’t think white women can or do work hard to earn what they have. You prove yourself to be racist and a male chauvanist.
 

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Since WHITES have used rave to define this society, don't dodge the issue by now pretending. Race suddenly becomes unimportant to whites when whites are shown they are the ones with thr problem. That's why you suggested I read people like Thomas Sowell but you don't tell whites to look at anything. You only make these statements when blacks point out the larger problems whites have or that they created. I do not see you in ANY thread by whites saying these same things.
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Whatever problems Black and Whites have are Our Problems.
I am not ever going to post what you want me to, because what you want is fucked up and covered in the stench of racial division.

.
Well, he's a racist and a black supremacist...... what do you expect?
I am neither. But when a person suffers from white fragility this is what they think.
And a liar, as well.
 

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No, that's actually not true. We are the absolute best at it, but we don't engage in nearly as much of it as others. It's just that we cause a shitload more casualties than any others do, when we finally do decide to get down.

So we agree then ? If white ppl are the best at being violent (as you just said) that means they are the most violent.
Who was the best heavyweight fighter? Who's had the most heavyweight fights?
Idk, who?
What sport?
 

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No, that's actually not true. We are the absolute best at it, but we don't engage in nearly as much of it as others. It's just that we cause a shitload more casualties than any others do, when we finally do decide to get down.

So we agree then ? If white ppl are the best at being violent (as you just said) that means they are the most violent.
Who was the best heavyweight fighter? Who's had the most heavyweight fights?
Idk, who?
What sport?

I should've specified. Boxing.
 

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The claim has been consistently made that blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 50 or more percent of the crime. That is inaccurate but the racists want to talk shit about per capita. When shown that per capita reveals that the difference between blacks and white per capita is 6 people, the racists continue. So because they do so, it is time to do the math.

We will use stats from the most recent uniform crime reports Table 43-Arrests by Race/Ethnicity

View attachment 498100
View attachment 498102

I will use 2019 population numbers.

The population of U.S. in 2019 was 329,064,917.

6,816,975 people were arrested for crimes. 6,816,975/329,064,917= 0.0207162011

2 percent of the American population participated in criminal activity.

4,729,290 were white. 4,729,290/329,064,917= 0.0143719058

1.4 percent of the U.S population were whites who participated in crime.

1,815,144 were black. 1,815,144/329,064,917=0.00551606661

Just over 1/2 of 1 percent of the U.S population were blacks who participated in crime.

Whites participated in more than double the crime as blacks.


Here endeth the lesson.
VIOLENT crime, moron. No one cares if their neighbor cheated on his taxes. Violent crimes are the crimes that really matter.
And white people are the most violent ppl on earth.
No, that's actually not true.
We are the absolute best at it, but we don't engage in nearly as much of it as others.

It's just that we cause a shitload more casualties than any others do, when we finally do decide to get down.
Our history shows that whites do the most of it.
Then your history teacher is a liar too.
 

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No, that's actually not true. We are the absolute best at it, but we don't engage in nearly as much of it as others. It's just that we cause a shitload more casualties than any others do, when we finally do decide to get down.

So we agree then ? If white ppl are the best at being violent (as you just said) that means they are the most violent.
Who was the best heavyweight fighter? Who's had the most heavyweight fights?
Idk, who?
What sport?

Boxing.
Okay, go on....

I assume you have a point to make?
 

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"Another long cut and pasted bunch of bullshit. How can you prove white women have benefitted?"

I find it funny how cutting and pasting is all good when whites post their bullshit about black people.

Molly, the links were provided. The fact remains that white women have benefitted the most from AA. Hate to bust your little racist bubble like that. But it is a fact.

The National Womens Law Center did a study on Affirmative Action and found that:

“Women of color have lagged particularly far behind in both employment and education. For example, in 1998, the median weekly salary for Black women was $400 compared to $468 for white women and $615 for white men. Hispanic women earned a median weekly income of only $337. Even in sectors where women have made inroads into management, minority women continue to be underrepresented. In the banking industry, only 2.6% of executive, managerial and administrative jobs were held by Black women, and 5% by Hispanic women, compared to 37.6% by white women. In the hospital industry, Black and Hispanic women each held 4.6% of these jobs, while white women held 50.2%. At the top, women of color represented only 11.2% of all corporate officers in Fortune 500 companies. Women of color also earn fewer college degrees than white women. In 1997, white women made up 39% of college undergraduates and 42% of graduate students; minority women were only 16% of undergraduates and 10% of graduate students.”

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women | NWLC

"According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million white women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."


Myth:
Under affirmative action, minorities and women receive preferences.
Reality:
Affirmative action does not require preferences, nor do women and minorities assume that they will be given preference. Race, gender, and national origin are factors that can be considered when hiring or accepting qualified applicants. Hiring qualified women and minorities is similar to the preferences given to veterans in hiring and to children of alumni in college admissions. There are also other preferences used in selecting qualified candidates. For example, when private colleges and universities value geographic diversity on their campuses, an out-of-state student may be admitted before an in-state student. Some colleges and universities consider athletic abilities and/or evidence of leadership skills in addition to academic qualifications.
Myth:
Affirmative action is really quotas.
Reality:
Affirmative action provides women and minorities with full educational and workplace opportunities. Under existing law, quotas are illegal.

My racist bubble? Lol, there you go again calling me something I am certainly not. Like I said, prove white women have benefitted. Your long, boring cut and pastes are redundant but not proof. I have never gotten a job because I am a white woman. You apparently don’t think white women can or do work hard to earn what they have. You prove yourself to be racist and a male chauvanist.
Excuse me missy, but I am the chauvinist here.


Just saying.
 

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