OK....I didn't vote for this....Trump says US will accept 600,000 Chinese students as part of trade deal

[OldFlame]

As far as smaller state schools, you might be right. But these foreign student are not needed in our nation's top tier universities, to fill unused spots. There are no unfilled spots in those universities!

American students of that exceptional caliber are fighting hard for those spots and getting rejected because of the large number of foreign students filling those spots. The American students are not getting rejected because they lack the talent and credentials.

We have far more extremely qualified American students that spots available at our elite universities. IMO, our students (of equal aptitude) should have priority when available spots are limited.

It probably depends on the school, for instance, Penn State is hurting, they're closing branch campuses, consolidating, and laying people off. You may be right about Ivy League schools, but I'm guessing there aren't many that wouldn't accept as many students as they could get.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Orange Man gets rolled by BigTech again.

Trump is making the same mistake with China as with Putin.
He insist on believing they think like he does, wants what he does.
They do not.
Putin is simply just a psychopath who dreams of the USSR.
China wants to replace America's role in the world - and we have been THE KEY REASON they have that opportunity.
How many times do they have to **** us in every way possible before our Presidents stop trusting them??
Trump was all over China with them causing the Covid pandemic - and now - just like that - they are back to favored status???

**** that.

 

[Unkotare]

The Chinese are the topic of this thread, and your experience with them isn't the topic either, so quit injecting it.

You’re an idiot.

 

[EMH]

She was Trump's personal lawyer, she was tied to him at the hip since his first illegal campaign donation to her. She will not stab Trump in the back....she has been by his side over a decade....and is not stupid enough to not do as he wants, as she has shown since she has been there...Trump would have chewed her up and spit her out already if she were not submissive with him....

Right now, she is taking the heat on not releasing the Epstein files with his followers, for him...

And she was a regular in Fox news in support of Trump....

It is the "regular on Fox" that is the problem...

Murdoch is not MAGA, he is Hillary/Biden.

 

[Unkotare]

Yes you have. ..

Now would be a good time for a quote, unless you’re full of shit.

 

[lennypartiv]

Haven't some Chinese spies come into our country this way?

 

[Unkotare]

Yes, that is how it works. You don't live in the real business world.

Only if you live in the breaking federal law world.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Trump says US will accept 600,000 Chinese students as part of trade deal

Trump made the announcement ahead of a bilateral meeting with South Korean President Lee Jae Myung.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

President Donald Trump announced the United States is prepared to accept up to 600,000 Chinese students as part of a trade deal his administration is trying to strike with China.

“We’re going to allow, it’s very important, 600,000 students,” Trump told reporters Monday at the White House. “We’re going to get along with China. But it’s a different relationship that we have now with China.”

IMHO there should be no Chi-Com nationals in the country, much less in our schools.

That's not America First and I'm honest enough with myself to say so.

All bringing a fungus to kill our crops, pandemics to kill as many of us as they can, along with the ability to shut down our infrastructure and will always remain loyal to China. Will they be bringing their "weather balloons" with them?
It would be like welcoming 600,000 Germans to our country during WW2.

 

[OldFlame]

You’re an idiot.

Now you have to resort to insults? You've not answered/commented on any of my posts, all you've done is obfuscate. You don't want any discussions, you just want to insult those that have a different opinion than you. Thought you were better than that, guess I thought wrong.

 

[Unkotare]

Now you have to resort to insults? You've not answered/commented on any of my posts, all you've done is obfuscate. You don't want any discussions, you just want to insult those that have a different opinion than you. Thought you were better than that, guess I thought wrong.

You can’t even stay on topic. What do you expect?

 

[Oddball]

 

[Oddball]

Haven't some Chinese spies come into our country this way?

Part of the deal in the CCP allowing them to come here is the obligation to spy and steal for them.

 

[Dragonlady]

So many questions.

Students?

Paying students?

Not migrant gonna be citizens?

But why CHINESE students? And why so many CHINESE students?

There are, on average 1.1 million foreign students in the USA in any given year. Trump is giving more than half of those placements to a nation which wants to overtake the USA in GDP, trade and commerce.

A nation which is out to destroy American economic supremacy as quickly as possible, and to subjugate the USA both economically and politically. Hardly a wise move.

 

[Invisibleflash]

Trump says US will accept 600,000 Chinese students as part of trade deal

Trump made the announcement ahead of a bilateral meeting with South Korean President Lee Jae Myung.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

President Donald Trump announced the United States is prepared to accept up to 600,000 Chinese students as part of a trade deal his administration is trying to strike with China.

“We’re going to allow, it’s very important, 600,000 students,” Trump told reporters Monday at the White House. “We’re going to get along with China. But it’s a different relationship that we have now with China.”

IMHO there should be no Chi-Com nationals in the country, much less in our schools.

That's not America First and I'm honest enough with myself to say so.

You must not be a full blooded MAGAt, bub. You must be like me...a Jr. MAGAt.

 

[Rocko]

Trump paving the way for Chinese spies coming to America

 

[struth]

But why CHINESE students? And why so many CHINESE students?

There are, on average 1.1 million foreign students in the USA in any given year. Trump is giving more than half of those placements to a nation which wants to overtake the USA in GDP, trade and commerce.

A nation which is out to destroy American economic supremacy as quickly as possible, and to subjugate the USA both economically and politically. Hardly a wise move.

From what the OP says it is because of larger trade deal with SK and China.

Pretty clear.

 

[OldFlame]

Now would be a good time for a quote, unless you’re full of shit.

My pleasure.

Why in the hell would China insist on America accepting all of these students?
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They were probably mostly students who already had applications and offers who had the rug pulled out from under them. <- Apologist (‘mostly’)



They are here to either be spies or to stir up discontent with other students.

Your paranoid imagination has made a coward of you. <- Doesn’t address the content of the post (insult)



They are all spies. When the CCP demand answers and cooperation, the students obey.

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Bullshit 95% of the time. <- Apologist (95% - what about the other 5%)

You can't even own land in China ...

Especially if you're Chinese. One reason why so many Chinese folks, when they get some money together, come over here to buy a big house, send their kids to American schools, and worship freely. <- Apologist (‘so many’, i.e. not all)



Wow. Nearly 34 Infatry Divisions worth of fighting age men.

**** you, Trump.

Have you seen most fighting age Chinese young men? Not exactly Rambo with a Chinese face. <- Apologist (No reason to fear fighting age Chinese men, they don’t mean anyone any harm)


The CCP is equivalent to Nazism.

Prove me wrong.

You JUST ^^^ made a claim. Prove it so. THAT is how logic works. Maybe you need to go to China, become a citizen, then come here and get an education. <- Apologist (What US citizen would want to live in communist China, you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend that SOME Chinese citizens don’t support the communist government?)


Do you deny China has an open genocide occurring? Sound's kind of Nazi like to me.
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So the definition of Nazi is any form of genocide? Ok. <- Apologist – can’t address the topic of the post


China was even funding fentanyl coming across the border.
...

So any drug traffickers are Nazi? Ok. . <- Apologist – can’t address the topic of the post

And don't get me started about Covid. ...

So any pandemic is Nazi? Ok. <- Apologist – can’t address the topic of the post


Do you concede that China has an open and ongoing genocide?

...

"Concede"? When did I deny? <- Love this one!! See all above apologist posts.

They are at war with America ...

So every drug dealer in any dark alley is at war with America? Ok. <- Apologist – can’t address the topic of the post


If they're supplying fentanyl then yes. ...

Well then we should have the army in every dark alley shooting to kill. <- Apologist – can’t address the topic of the post


You simply don't give a damn.
...

When did I say that, Harry Hysteria? <- You don’t have to ‘say’ it, see every prior apologist post.


...It was part of my studies in my degree. ...

Reading the minds of every Chinese student in America was part of your degree? Pretty specific and amazing studies.
<- Another insult, apparently you think you can read the minds of every Chinese student in America.

Probably, but who is the 5%? You hide a leaf in the forest sort of thing.

Greg

Yeah, that can be a problem. The price of liberty and all that. <- The ‘price’ of liberty is allowing your enemies to live next door? Since when?


And look at any segment of the population. Not much diversity going on there...

More than you seem to think. In any case, why don't you try meeting some people instead of just looking? <- Yet another claim of superiority without any data to back it up. And as I said earlier, another claim that because you ‘meet some people’ that makes you’re an all knowing expert on the entire body and culture.


However, China is all Chinese, not much diversity going on there.
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That's not true. <- Yes it is. See below:

Approximately 91.11% to 92% of China's population is Han Chinese, the country's largest and dominant ethnic group, according to the 2020 census and various estimates. The remaining 8-9% of the population consists of 55 officially recognized ethnic minority groups.

Key details:

• Han Chinese:This group comprises the vast majority of China's population and represents the largest ethnic group globally.
• Ethnic Minorities:In addition to the Han Chinese, China recognizes 55 other ethnic groups, who are also considered Chinese by nationality.
• Census Data:The most recent data from the 2020 census shows that Han Chinese made up 91.11% of the population, with ethnic minorities accounting for the remaining 8.89%.
• Other Percentages:Some sources cite the Han population at around 92%.

I have often met with Chinese groups over the years(up to the 90s); one never could tell who were Party Cadres and others who were just minions.

Greg

I have always been able to tell. I talk to people. <- That’s just pure egotistical bullshit. Are you planning on ‘talking’ to every Chinese national allowed in so you can reassure us all that they’re ‘okay’?

All these people who know exactly what every Chinese person in the world thinks, and most have probably never had a conversation longer than five minutes with an actual Chinese person. <- Why do you think that having had conversations with Chinese people covers the entirety of the Chinese population’s views on anything? That’s just pure stupidity.

It is disgraceful to see Americans who are afraid of competition. Real Americans can compete with anyone. <- More insults, like that’s an excuse to allow enemies of America into our country.

The same grade school horseshit as assuming that if someone is from another country or culture that their intensions are always assumed to be good, which is exactly what you do. It's what you've done throughout the entire thread, we can't throw negative aspirations onto Chinese students, that would be racist, correct? Yet that is the reality that you seemingly want to ignore.
<- Ignored by you

My point is that you are objecting to a group being labeled because of their ethnicity or origin, but you are doing just the same, only in the opposite way. You are implying simply because they come from a different ethnicity or origin that there is nothing to worry about. That is not correct either. <- Ignored by you

It is true in MY EXPERIENCE, which is what you use to validate everything you say. You've implied in here multiple times that there's nothing wrong with bringing in Chinese students because their intentions are always good, and you know this because you've actually talked to them. It has everything to do with your comments in this thread.

You've implied in here multiple times that there's nothing wrong with bringing in Chinese students because their intentions are always good...
No, I haven’t. What is wrong with you? <- Every prior post of yours shows that you did exactly that. Also cut my post off because it was inconvenient for you.

Not if the competiont is HOW LOW CAN YOU GO, on wages.

So....

yeah.

I ask again, Why should American resources not benefit Americans, primarily or first?

Click to expand...

Weakling. <- More insults


The Chinese are the topic of this thread, and your experience with them isn't the topic either, so quit injecting it.

You’re an idiot. <- More insults, talk about staying on topic…

Now you have to resort to insults? You've not answered/commented on any of my posts, all you've done is obfuscate. You don't want any discussions, you just want to insult those that have a different opinion than you. Thought you were better than that, guess I thought wrong.

You can’t even stay on topic. What do you expect? <- More insults and complete bullshit.

All you are is an apologist, and apparently lack the IQ to do anything but hurl insults because someone dares to disagree with you. Sucks to be you.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

600k chinese going to us schools?

I'll believe that,... .... .... never.


Many or most of them will be studying stem, and they will want jobs, and they will find jobs.


And even if the US government manages for once, to do a good jobs and stop it,


that will still be 600k, slots NOT available to AMERICANS, in AMERICAN schools.

They will have to go back to China. China will not pay for their education and then keep them here.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The Chinese are the topic of this thread, and your experience with them isn't the topic either, so quit injecting it.

Then why are you talking about Indians?

 

[OldFlame]

Then why are you talking about Indians?

I'm pointing out that other cultures have biases, he seems to think if someone is anything other than white American, then they are perfect and without flaw.