It's okay, I never actually said that, but Skull Head obviously feels some sort of remorse over someone's life he fucked up.
No...the person he let go fucked up his own life by doing a poor job.
You see Joe, it works this way. When a person is at fault in their own discharge from employment, the management did not decide to fire that person., The worker made the decision. They did that by nor performing as agreed when they were hired. Remember, on the day of hire the employer and employee enter into an agreement. That is the employee agrees to perform assigned tasks while the employer agrees to compensate the employee for successful completion of said tasks.
If the employee violates the agreement, it is THEY who have decided they no longer wish to be a part of the company.
The problem with that is, then the employer is also obligated to live up to their end of the agreement, is he not?
Now, keep in mind, we aren't talking about a person in this thread who was fired for her performance. We are talking about a person who was fired because her boss didn't like who she voted for.
I've seen an employee of 14 years fired because she was gay.
I've seen women fired because they got pregnant.
I was personally fired (despite six years of glowing performance evaluations) because I ran up too many medical bills one year.
Now, if you are going to insist on making so many things contingent on employment, and not just garuntee every citizen health care and a job like those nasty European Socialists do. (Damn them with their higher standard of living and their longer life expectencies!) then you really should be insisting on holding the employer to his end of the agreement, should you not?
Or to put it a way even a greedy douchebag can understand. If you are a fair employer who only fires people for cause, and you are paying through the nose for unemployment insurance and taxes, the guy who is out there firing his wage slaves because he doesn't like who they are sleeping with or who they voted for is kind of acting badly at your expense, isn't he?
The obligation as you call it, is simple. The Employer compensates the employee at the agreed rate so as long as the employee performs assigned tasks to the satisfaction of the employer. The employee agrees to arrive to work on time every day. Show up for work every day he or she is scheduled to work. Show respect for superiors. Observe all rules set forth by the company. Pretty simple. The employer agrees to observe all state and federal labor laws. Pretty simple.
Ancillary rewards benefits not associated with wages are subject to change at the discretion of the employer. Example, the employer elects to move their business to a new insurance carrier for employee health plan. Happens all the time.
The fact that this person may or may not have voted for one person or another is immaterial. The fact that because employment is at will, the person no longer has a job. She is free to work elsewhere. Of course if she is a chronic filer of lawsuits vs former employers, she may have a tough time finding work. Too bad.
I offered an example of how an employee can find themselves in hot water by making decisions that are not in their employer's best interest. In fact I provided several. You are arguing in circles.
Now...I will tell you for the last time. I do not believe your stories about gays, pregnant women or your excessive medical bills getting you fired.
"I know of"..."I have heard" or other personal anecdotes are just that, anecdotes. Keep them to yourself. I don't care.
"Now, if you are going to insist on making so many things contingent on employment, and not just garuntee every citizen health care and a job like those nasty European Socialists do. (Damn them with their higher standard of living and their longer life expectencies!) then you really should be insisting on holding the employer to his end of the agreement, should you not?
SO many things? Yer kidding right? Look if you don't like the employer employee relationship works you always have the option of starting your own business. This way you can make your own rules.
Guarantee a job to everyone? In which universe does this happen? Most EU nations have very high unemployment.
Unemployment in Europe: get the figures for every country | News | guardian.co.uk
In fact in the 27 nation chart in this link only 9 of those nations have lower unemployment than that of the US. And once again, the rates are irrespective of socialized medicine.
There is no sustainable empirical evidence that supports the theory of a direct correlation between government run health care and life expectancy.
I will ignore the insult as just another fit of rage on your part.
Look, you view employment as an entitlement. You said so yourself. "Socialized nations guarantee everyone health care and a job"...It's not true but for purposes of responding to your rant, employment is earned. It is an opportunity. Not a birthright.
The only obligation an employer has is to pay the employee at an agreed rate. Other than that, all the business has to do is obey all state and federal labor laws. Everything else is up to the employee to show the employer that he or she is worth keeping their job and justifies any future increases in wage or promotion in rank within the company.
Pretty simple stuff.
