Does it matter? If it has, is that related to the guy shooting the girl?
Probably nothing. But then, credit card fraud is not a violent crime, which is mostly what Iām talking about.
You. Iām just responding in kind. Youāre the one who started throwing the ad hominems.
Bitching about ad hominems and then committing ad hominems makes you look like a hypocrite.
Which seems related to me. Theft and credit card fraud, not so much. Hence why, after failing to get an answer from you, I assumed you were talking about gun violence. I responded with what I figured you meant, only to have you go into this ridiculous theft argument.
Wrong. I made no ātheft argumentā. You are the one who brought that up, not me.
Having said that, theft was certainly a concern but not the only one. Other concerns were that gang activity had gone up so there were more shootings and brawls and whatnot happening outside these businesses and in the surrounding areas, making it unsafe for employees.
This has lead us to talking about credit card fraud and whether itās related to the guy shooting the girl, something that you STILL wonāt answer.
Nothing āledā us to talking about credit card fraud. You brought it up and you only did so because you were being willfully obtuse.
If credit card fraud is on the rise, is that now connected to the guy shooting the girl? Still no straight answer out of you.
Again, probably not.
āBeforeā. So do you admit that you your statement was wrong?
āNot once did I cite covid as a cause.ā
Okay, letās recap, shall we? In post #28 , Page 2 (my first response to you) I said:
āWe had a divisive and controversial presidential election, some police shootings that sparked riots and a pandemic that divided us even more over mask mandates and vaccines while at the same time being forced to lockdown, all in the span of five or six years.ā
Your response, Post #94, Page 5:
āWhat makes you think that this has anything to do with the election, covid, or mask mandates?ā
Later, you said in Post #169, Page 9:
āI asked you for data showing that this kind of crime started increasing in the last few years, presumably due to covid or mask mandates, or whatever the hell you were trying to blame this on.
Right there is where you started getting it wrong; accusing me of blaming covid, which I did not.
Then you doubled down in Post #208, Page 11:
āYou blamed this on covid.ā
If anyone lied, you did right here. I never blamed it on covid before this accusation from you.
In response to
your false accusation that I blamed it on covid, THIS is when I said in Post #214, Page 11:
āNo, dumbass, I did NOT blame it on covid. What I said was that the country went through a lot of turbulence and upheaval due to covid, riots and the pandemic and that tensions were high.ā
You falsely accused me twice of blaming it on covid before I even made this statement and this statement was in direct response to your second false accusation.
Later, I asked two questions in Post #285, Page 15, based on the assumption that crime had gone up to make a point:
ā1.) Do you think covid caused a rise in crime?
2.) Do you think covid caused the heightened tensions between various groups (Democrats/Republicans, conservatives/liberals, etc.)?ā
You of course refused to answer, which didnāt surprise me. But then you took two
questions that were
directed at you to somehow mean I was saying covid caused the increase in crime. Your response to the questions was in Post #288, Page 15:
āSo, when you said you didnāt cite covid as a cause, that was a lie.ā
I then responded to this in Post #291, Page 15:
āJust answer the questions. The point of asking the questions will be made clear if and when you do.ā
Even after I made it clear I wanted to make a point, you of course still didnāt answer the questions (again, no surprise) but instead, for some reason that escapes me, went right on believing I said covid caused the rise in crime.
I already told you several posts ago, admit you lied or admit that you misspoke. These pathetic attempts to deflect or move the goal posts arenāt working. Did you lie or did you use a poor choice of words when you said the following? āNot once did I cite covid as a cause.ā Which is it?
First you need to understand, when I say āpoor choice of wordsā, Iām referring to the āā¦due to covidā¦ā remark. But as I showed above, this was in response to
your false accusation that I blamed it on covid.
I stand by my comment that I never blamed it on covid.
For whatever reason
you have been trying to convince
me that I blamed it on covid.
The fact is covid did not cause the lockdowns or mandates. Covid was the
reason used for the lockdowns and mandates but was not the cause.
I understand this concept but apparently you do not. You donāt understand much of anything and this is why your debate style is so heavy handed and why, when you canāt get the response you so arrogantly think you deserve, you assume dishonesty and subterfuge.
Itās blatantly clear that youāre wrong here and itās interesting to see how you respond when you know that youāre wrong.
What exactly am I wrong about? I never claimed I was right about anything other than that crime is on the rise. You disputed this of course as is your wont, but then I gave you links to three articles from three different cities citing rises in crime.
Rather than confess to this lie or mistake, you would rather try these lame tactics. How about you just cut the bullshit and try being honest?
How about you do the same and admit you lied about me blaming covid?
www.ladiesoflead.com
www.gunviolencearchive.org
en.wikipedia.org
apnews.com
www.pbs.org
