Oh-Oh, For Obamacare

[Meister]

Now that we passed it we are finding out what's in it.

AP: Glitch in Obamacare would place couples earning up to $64,000 in Medicaid

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's health care law would let several million middle-class people get nearly free insurance meant for the poor, a twist government number crunchers say they discovered only after the complex bill was signed.
The change would affect early retirees: A married couple could have an annual income of about $64,000 and still get Medicaid, said officials who make long-range cost estimates for the Health and Human Services department.

"The fact that this is being discovered now tells you, what else is baked into this law?" said Leavitt, who served as Health and Human Services secretary under President George H.W. Bush. "It clearly begins to reveal that the nature of the law was to put more and more people under eligibility for government insurance."
That $64,000 would put them at about four times the federal poverty level, which for a two-person household is $14,710 this year. The Medicaid expansion in the health care law was supposed to benefit childless adults with incomes up to 133 percent of the poverty level. A fudge factor built into the law bumps that up to 138 percent.


Read more: APNewsBreak: A twist in Obama's health care law | AP Business News - The News Tribune

 

[Spoonman]

clearly thought out it wasn't. i'm sure we are bound to find a ton of little surprises in this deal

 

[syrenn]

Can i laugh now?


You mean its like a back of a refrigerator? All the wires and stuff...all we needed to know was that the light comes on?

 

[Dr.House]

Isn't the first loophole - won't be the last...

The perils of ramming something through without knowing what's in it...

 

[Sarah G]

Glitch in the software?

 

[Oddball]

I'm confused here.

Is this supposed to be one of those "good things" that SanFran Nan told us was in the bill, which we needed to pass in order to find out about them?

 

[daveman]

Isn't the first loophole - won't be the last...

The perils of ramming something through without knowing what's in it...

Ready, fire, aim!

 

[Spoonman]

i wish my employers would pay me with a 138% fudge factor

 

[elvis]

I'm confused here.

Is this supposed to be one of those "good things" that SanFran Nan told us was in the bill, which we needed to pass in order to find out about them?

yes.

 

[Meister]

Now...if I can just get obamacare to pay my mortgage and gas, I'll be set.

 

[Wiseacre]

Now...if I can just get obamacare to pay my mortgage and gas, I'll be set.

And eats. Just wondering, did this message board get any stimulus money? Didn't ask I bet. Heck, we got enough lefties around here, tell 'em we're unionized and it's a piece of cake.

 

[Greenbeard]

"The fact that this is being discovered now tells you, what else is baked into this law?" said Leavitt, who served as Health and Human Services secretary under President George H.W. Bush.

...this isn't being discovered now, nor is it "glitch." This is part of the House's revisions to the Senate bill in March 2010. The House bill extended Medicaid eligibility up to 150% of the poverty line, the Senate bill extended it only to 133%. The compromise was the Senate bill's 133% coupled with a 5% income disregard, effectively putting the eligibility threshold at 138%.

If you're still in the dark about some of these basic facts about the law, there are some very digestible bite-size summaries available out there (e.g. KFF's Medicaid and CHIP provisions in the new health reform law notes the 5 percent income disregard on page 1). The simplified way income is to be counted also isn't a revelation. These threads would be much more interesting if they were aimed at highlighting areas for improvement in the policy, not anger that you just became aware of what it is.

 

[Oddball]

Ahhh...So it's all a part of the plan.

I'm sooooo unrelieved.

 

[Meister]

"The fact that this is being discovered now tells you, what else is baked into this law?" said Leavitt, who served as Health and Human Services secretary under President George H.W. Bush.

...this isn't being discovered now, nor is it "glitch." This is part of the House's revisions to the Senate bill in March 2010. The House bill extended Medicaid eligibility up to 150% of the poverty line, the Senate bill extended it only to 133%. The compromise was the Senate bill's 133% coupled with a 5% income disregard, effectively putting the eligibility threshold at 138%.

If you're still in the dark about some of these basic facts about the law, there are some very digestible bite-size summaries available out there (e.g. KFF's Medicaid and CHIP provisions in the new health reform law notes the 5 percent income disregard on page 1). The simplified way income is to be counted also isn't a revelation. These threads would be much more interesting if they were aimed at highlighting areas for improvement in the policy, not anger that you just became aware of what it is.

I have no doubt that it's in there, Greenbeard. I find it discouraging that it didn't get front page news sooner.

 

[Flopper]

When they raise the age for S.S. early retirement I doubt it's going to make that much difference.

 

[Spoonman]

"The fact that this is being discovered now tells you, what else is baked into this law?" said Leavitt, who served as Health and Human Services secretary under President George H.W. Bush.

...this isn't being discovered now, nor is it "glitch." This is part of the House's revisions to the Senate bill in March 2010. The House bill extended Medicaid eligibility up to 150% of the poverty line, the Senate bill extended it only to 133%. The compromise was the Senate bill's 133% coupled with a 5% income disregard, effectively putting the eligibility threshold at 138%.

If you're still in the dark about some of these basic facts about the law, there are some very digestible bite-size summaries available out there (e.g. KFF's Medicaid and CHIP provisions in the new health reform law notes the 5 percent income disregard on page 1). The simplified way income is to be counted also isn't a revelation. These threads would be much more interesting if they were aimed at highlighting areas for improvement in the policy, not anger that you just became aware of what it is.

so it wasn't an oversite, it was a fuck up

 

[Bfgrn]

Now that we passed it we are finding out what's in it.

AP: Glitch in Obamacare would place couples earning up to $64,000 in Medicaid

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's health care law would let several million middle-class people get nearly free insurance meant for the poor, a twist government number crunchers say they discovered only after the complex bill was signed.
The change would affect early retirees: A married couple could have an annual income of about $64,000 and still get Medicaid, said officials who make long-range cost estimates for the Health and Human Services department.

"The fact that this is being discovered now tells you, what else is baked into this law?" said Leavitt, who served as Health and Human Services secretary under President George H.W. Bush. "It clearly begins to reveal that the nature of the law was to put more and more people under eligibility for government insurance."
That $64,000 would put them at about four times the federal poverty level, which for a two-person household is $14,710 this year. The Medicaid expansion in the health care law was supposed to benefit childless adults with incomes up to 133 percent of the poverty level. A fudge factor built into the law bumps that up to 138 percent.


Read more: APNewsBreak: A twist in Obama's health care law | AP Business News - The News Tribune

There has never been a major piece of legislation that hasn't required modifications. The Affordable Healthcare Act is no different...

 

[Spoonman]

Now that we passed it we are finding out what's in it.

AP: Glitch in Obamacare would place couples earning up to $64,000 in Medicaid

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's health care law would let several million middle-class people get nearly free insurance meant for the poor, a twist government number crunchers say they discovered only after the complex bill was signed.
The change would affect early retirees: A married couple could have an annual income of about $64,000 and still get Medicaid, said officials who make long-range cost estimates for the Health and Human Services department.

"The fact that this is being discovered now tells you, what else is baked into this law?" said Leavitt, who served as Health and Human Services secretary under President George H.W. Bush. "It clearly begins to reveal that the nature of the law was to put more and more people under eligibility for government insurance."
That $64,000 would put them at about four times the federal poverty level, which for a two-person household is $14,710 this year. The Medicaid expansion in the health care law was supposed to benefit childless adults with incomes up to 133 percent of the poverty level. A fudge factor built into the law bumps that up to 138 percent.


Read more: APNewsBreak: A twist in Obama's health care law | AP Business News - The News Tribune

There has never been a major piece of legislation that hasn't required modifications. The Affordable Healthcare Act is no different...

lol at affordable

 

[boedicca]

clearly thought out it wasn't. i'm sure we are bound to find a ton of little surprises in this deal

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

These "glitches" accelerate the momentum towards single payer.

 

[Trajan]

Now that we passed it we are finding out what's in it.

AP: Glitch in Obamacare would place couples earning up to $64,000 in Medicaid

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's health care law would let several million middle-class people get nearly free insurance meant for the poor, a twist government number crunchers say they discovered only after the complex bill was signed.
The change would affect early retirees: A married couple could have an annual income of about $64,000 and still get Medicaid, said officials who make long-range cost estimates for the Health and Human Services department.

"The fact that this is being discovered now tells you, what else is baked into this law?" said Leavitt, who served as Health and Human Services secretary under President George H.W. Bush. "It clearly begins to reveal that the nature of the law was to put more and more people under eligibility for government insurance."
That $64,000 would put them at about four times the federal poverty level, which for a two-person household is $14,710 this year. The Medicaid expansion in the health care law was supposed to benefit childless adults with incomes up to 133 percent of the poverty level. A fudge factor built into the law bumps that up to 138 percent.


Read more: APNewsBreak: A twist in Obama's health care law | AP Business News - The News Tribune

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Meister again.