Official Thread for Denial of GreenHouse Effect and Radiative Physics.

[jc456]

Sure, post evidence that ice radiates! I know you can’t! I accept your surrender

Sure, post evidence that ice radiates!

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If you have proof that ice doesn't radiate "proportional to the fourth power of its absolute temperature" you should post that proof.

I observed the ice didn't radiate, the spoon didn't get warmer. therefore radiation wasn't present from the ice. A math problem is a problem based on observance. so show me the observed ice cube radiating.

Ice does radiate though. That's the whole point.

it will when around a colder object.

How does the ice know if a colder object is nearby?

the 2nd law of physics explains that.

And it's been observed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Was it a mercury thermometer?

nope

Post some pictures, I'll point out your mistakes.

once you post yours!

I've never attempted such a silly experiment.

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object, so you must have observed it correct? a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object

Ice radiates all day every day.
It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

 

[jc456]

nope

Post some pictures, I'll point out your mistakes.

once you post yours!

I've never attempted such a silly experiment.

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object, so you must have observed it correct? a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object

Ice radiates all day every day.
It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

Then you must have an observance of that.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sure, post evidence that ice radiates!

View attachment 270915

If you have proof that ice doesn't radiate "proportional to the fourth power of its absolute temperature" you should post that proof.

I observed the ice didn't radiate, the spoon didn't get warmer. therefore radiation wasn't present from the ice. A math problem is a problem based on observance. so show me the observed ice cube radiating.

Ice does radiate though. That's the whole point.

it will when around a colder object.

How does the ice know if a colder object is nearby?

the 2nd law of physics explains that.

And it's been observed.

the 2nd law of physics explains that.

The 2nd law of physics explains that objects can detect the temperature of nearby objects? Prove it.

And it's been observed.

You're lying.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Post some pictures, I'll point out your mistakes.

once you post yours!

I've never attempted such a silly experiment.

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object, so you must have observed it correct? a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object

Ice radiates all day every day.
It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

Then you must have an observance of that.

Yes, matter has been observed radiating.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

 

[jc456]

I observed the ice didn't radiate, the spoon didn't get warmer. therefore radiation wasn't present from the ice. A math problem is a problem based on observance. so show me the observed ice cube radiating.

Ice does radiate though. That's the whole point.

it will when around a colder object.

How does the ice know if a colder object is nearby?

the 2nd law of physics explains that.

And it's been observed.

the 2nd law of physics explains that.

The 2nd law of physics explains that objects can detect the temperature of nearby objects? Prove it.

And it's been observed.

You're lying.

Second law of thermodynamics - Wikipedia

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ice does radiate though. That's the whole point.

it will when around a colder object.

How does the ice know if a colder object is nearby?

the 2nd law of physics explains that.

And it's been observed.

the 2nd law of physics explains that.

The 2nd law of physics explains that objects can detect the temperature of nearby objects? Prove it.

And it's been observed.

You're lying.

Second law of thermodynamics - Wikipedia

I accept your surrender.

 

[jc456]

once you post yours!

I've never attempted such a silly experiment.

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object, so you must have observed it correct? a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object

Ice radiates all day every day.
It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

Then you must have an observance of that.

Yes, matter has been observed radiating.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

yes it has, when that matter is around colder matter. I completely agree.

 

[jc456]

it will when around a colder object.

How does the ice know if a colder object is nearby?

the 2nd law of physics explains that.

And it's been observed.

the 2nd law of physics explains that.

The 2nd law of physics explains that objects can detect the temperature of nearby objects? Prove it.

And it's been observed.

You're lying.

Second law of thermodynamics - Wikipedia

I accept your surrender.

too late, I got yours first.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I've never attempted such a silly experiment.

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object, so you must have observed it correct? a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object

Ice radiates all day every day.
It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

Then you must have an observance of that.

Yes, matter has been observed radiating.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter. I completely agree.

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter.

Ice radiates around warmer matter. Yes.
Don't tell SSDD that you disagree with his silly claim.
Thanks.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How does the ice know if a colder object is nearby?

the 2nd law of physics explains that.

And it's been observed.

the 2nd law of physics explains that.

The 2nd law of physics explains that objects can detect the temperature of nearby objects? Prove it.

And it's been observed.

You're lying.

Second law of thermodynamics - Wikipedia

I accept your surrender.

too late, I got yours first.

Nothing there about objects detecting the temperature of nearby objects.

If you ever get your facts together....that prove SB was wrong,
contact SSDD's buddy, he'll be happy to listen to your proof.


j.raeder@unh.edu

That's Dr Raeder.
Be sure to post his reply.

 

[Wuwei]

I won't name names, but somebody here doesn't understand that they recently posted a diagram of thermal conduction, not thermal radiation.

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[jc456]

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object, so you must have observed it correct? a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object

Ice radiates all day every day.
It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

Then you must have an observance of that.

Yes, matter has been observed radiating.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter. I completely agree.

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter.

Ice radiates around warmer matter. Yes.
Don't tell SSDD that you disagree with his silly claim.
Thanks.

made an error in my post, I meant colder. then I agree.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

well you said the ice radiates around a warmer object

Ice radiates all day every day.
It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

a math problem is but a problem until validated. so post that validation.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

Then you must have an observance of that.

Yes, matter has been observed radiating.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter. I completely agree.

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter.

Ice radiates around warmer matter. Yes.
Don't tell SSDD that you disagree with his silly claim.
Thanks.

made an error in my post, I meant colder. then I agree.

The 2nd law of physics explains that objects can detect the temperature of nearby objects? Prove it.

Still waiting.

 

[jc456]

It doesn't give a shit what objects are nearby.

Then you must have an observance of that.

Yes, matter has been observed radiating.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter. I completely agree.

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter.

Ice radiates around warmer matter. Yes.
Don't tell SSDD that you disagree with his silly claim.
Thanks.

made an error in my post, I meant colder. then I agree.

The 2nd law of physics explains that objects can detect the temperature of nearby objects? Prove it.

Still waiting.

the experiments within the formation of the 2nd law states that heat flows to cold. here, simple experiment.

By the way, throw ice in a glass of water, the water gets colder, not warmer, therefore the liquid loses heat to the ice, the ice then melts.

 

[westwall]

I want you to prove the math

You want me to prove the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

It's been out there for 140 years. Check it out...….

Stefan-Boltzmann law | Definition & Facts

If you've discovered some flaw, you should publish.

Sure, post evidence that ice radiates! I know you can’t! I accept your surrender

Sure, post evidence that ice radiates!

View attachment 270915

If you have proof that ice doesn't radiate "proportional to the fourth power of its absolute temperature" you should post that proof.

I observed the ice didn't radiate, the spoon didn't get warmer. therefore radiation wasn't present from the ice. A math problem is a problem based on observance. so show me the observed ice cube radiating.

Ice does radiate though. That's the whole point.

it will when around a colder object.

Everything is ALWAYS radiating. The only question is to what extent.

 

[Wuwei]

In fact the diagram is an example conduction in water and came from Wikipedia under "Second law of thermodynamics"

Since the topic here is radiation it would have been more instructive to look at Wikipedia under "Thermal radiation". An excerpt about halfway down says this:

a human, having roughly 2 square meter in surface area, and a temperature of about 307 K, continuously radiates approximately 1000 watts. If people are indoors, surrounded by surfaces at 296 K, they receive back about 900 watts from the wall, ceiling, and other surroundings, so the net loss is only about 100 watts​

Radiation flows two ways. Heat flows one way.

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[jc456]

Sure, post evidence that ice radiates! I know you can’t! I accept your surrender

Sure, post evidence that ice radiates!

View attachment 270915

If you have proof that ice doesn't radiate "proportional to the fourth power of its absolute temperature" you should post that proof.

I observed the ice didn't radiate, the spoon didn't get warmer. therefore radiation wasn't present from the ice. A math problem is a problem based on observance. so show me the observed ice cube radiating.

Ice does radiate though. That's the whole point.

it will when around a colder object.

Everything is ALWAYS radiating. The only question is to what extent.

well that's what I am asking evidence of. Why can't anyone just post the evidence, not a math problem the evidence.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, matter has been observed radiating.

You need me to validate the Stefan-Boltzmann math?

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter. I completely agree.

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter.

Ice radiates around warmer matter. Yes.
Don't tell SSDD that you disagree with his silly claim.
Thanks.

made an error in my post, I meant colder. then I agree.

The 2nd law of physics explains that objects can detect the temperature of nearby objects? Prove it.

Still waiting.

the experiments within the formation of the 2nd law states that heat flows to cold. here, simple experiment.

By the way, throw ice in a glass of water, the water gets colder, not warmer, therefore the liquid loses heat to the ice, the ice then melts.

the experiments within the formation of the 2nd law states that heat flows to cold.

Ummm...thanks.

Now are you going to post your proof that objects can detect the temperature of nearby objects or not?

 

[jc456]

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter. I completely agree.

yes it has, when that matter is around warmer matter.

Ice radiates around warmer matter. Yes.
Don't tell SSDD that you disagree with his silly claim.
Thanks.

made an error in my post, I meant colder. then I agree.

The 2nd law of physics explains that objects can detect the temperature of nearby objects? Prove it.

Still waiting.

the experiments within the formation of the 2nd law states that heat flows to cold. here, simple experiment.

By the way, throw ice in a glass of water, the water gets colder, not warmer, therefore the liquid loses heat to the ice, the ice then melts.

the experiments within the formation of the 2nd law states that heat flows to cold.

Ummm...thanks.

Now are you going to post your proof that objects can detect the temperature of nearby objects or not?

why would I do that when experiments already show cold things get warm when around warm, and the warm doesn't increase? I'm asking you for the evidence the warm thing gets warmer when near a cold object! go!!