Occupy Wall Street: The Movement Grows

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

I know, I was giving you shit.

I have no problem with regulated capitalism.

I just told bigfitz that you knew what I meant and were just messing with me because we like to play with each other like that (you can take that out of context anytime )

You just like to play with me while I watch tv.

Its better than just sitting there

 

[Luissa]

I just told bigfitz that you knew what I meant and were just messing with me because we like to play with each other like that (you can take that out of context anytime )

You just like to play with me while I watch tv.

Its better than just sitting there

WHy do we only have a blow job smilie? that is sexism.

And of course it is better than just sitting there, my "magic" is that good.







We should stop derailing this serious thread, BigFits might have a fit.

 

[Dragon]

So you believe that the INTERSTATE commerce clause (take care with the wording) empowers congress to confiscate property from one and give it to another?

No, the taxation clause does that, but the interstate commerce clause does empower Congress to set rules for mortgage transactions. As for the interpretation of the words "between the states," I suggest you take it up with the Supreme Court, and will only mention in passing that banks nowadays are all interstate in their operations, bringing them under the jurisdiction of Congress.

No case law has ever supported the theft by congress of real property for the benefit of a third party.

We are not talking about anything fitting that description, or at least, I am not, and if you are, then you are engaging a straw man.

First off, there is no such thing as the "taxation clause," this is a fabrication of your own imagination. The power to tax is derived from the Uniformity Clause of the constitution, Article 1, section 8. The clause very clearly states the purpose for which congress may tax;

Section. 8.

Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

That IS the taxation clause. Each clause of Article I, Section 8 is an enumerated power of Congress. This first one is the power to lay and collect taxes. That all duties etc. must be uniform throughout the U.S. is a condition on application of that power, just as that all taxes must be to pay the debts or provide for the common defense or general welfare is a condition on the power. It is just as wrong to call this the "uniformity clause" as it is to call it the "general welfare" clause. The power enumerated here is the power to tax, and by extension the power to spend.

Sorry, violates the uniformity clause in that it is not applied in a uniform manner but involves theft of real property from one set of citizens on behalf of another.

Again, take it up with the Supreme Court. The ability of the federal government to levy taxes and provide relief of various kinds to the people is long established as a function of this clause, which, by the way, does not require uniformity in anything but the imposition of duties, imposts and excises -- that is to say, Congress cannot impose a duty on goods entering the port of New York and not apply the same duty to the same goods entering the port of Los Angeles.

 

[Big Fitz]

Cancelling TRL is Capitalism at work?
ONe could say TRL is a form of democracy and maybe even socialism. People vote for videos, then MTV shared the videos the people voted for(sharing the wealth). Is it still socialism if you don't want what they are sharing?

I wonder how many of those posters used to camp out at TRL when they were younger? Some how we can blame Carson Daily for this whole thing???

Like Air America... if nobody watches it, it loses all revenue streams, because it can't sell advertising, and can't pay the bills, and as socialist as they may be, ideology doesn't feed the bulldog, money does..

Really?

Those Occupados didn't figure that out. Wasn't sure if you got that too. Best to clarify if unsure.

 

[Luissa]

Like Air America... if nobody watches it, it loses all revenue streams, because it can't sell advertising, and can't pay the bills, and as socialist as they may be, ideology doesn't feed the bulldog, money does..

Really?

Those Occupados didn't figure that out. Wasn't sure if you got that too. Best to clarify if unsure.

They couldn't figure out why TRL went off the air?

 

[Big Fitz]

Really?

Those Occupados didn't figure that out. Wasn't sure if you got that too. Best to clarify if unsure.

They couldn't figure out why TRL went off the air?

You know... I bet that'd be true too.

I stopped watching when they pulled "Liquid Television" in 1994, which I did not need to be stoned to watch. But they suckered me back for a short period with "Daria" which got pulled in 2006ish.

la la LA la laaaaa....

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

You just like to play with me while I watch tv.

Its better than just sitting there

WHy do we only have a blow job smilie? that is sexism.

And of course it is better than just sitting there, my "magic" is that good.







We should stop derailing this serious thread, BigFits might have a fit.

Plus we are probably confusing everyone

lets find another thread

 

[Luissa]

Those Occupados didn't figure that out. Wasn't sure if you got that too. Best to clarify if unsure.

They couldn't figure out why TRL went off the air?

You know... I bet that'd be true too.

I stopped watching when they pulled "Liquid Television" in 1994, which I did not need to be stoned to watch. But they suckered me back for a short period with "Daria" which got pulled in 2006ish.

la la LA la laaaaa....

You like Daria?
You just scored a few points in my book. I was a big Beavis and Butthead fan, then a HUGE Daria fan. I remember watching Mtv all day long, now I don't even know what channel it is on. When we switched to Directv I have never bothered to look.


You know what I also miss? Pop up video.

 

[Big Fitz]

They couldn't figure out why TRL went off the air?

You know... I bet that'd be true too.

I stopped watching when they pulled "Liquid Television" in 1994, which I did not need to be stoned to watch. But they suckered me back for a short period with "Daria" which got pulled in 2006ish.

la la LA la laaaaa....

You like Daria?
You just scored a few points in my book. I was a big Beavis and Butthead fan, then a HUGE Daria fan. I remember watching Mtv all day long, now I don't even know what channel it is on. When we switched to Directv I have never bothered to look.


You know what I also miss? Pop up video.

For so long the only videos worth watching were those.

BTW, the entire Daria series is available on DVD now. But I'm not buying it for that price... yet.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

My issue about it not being grassroots Occupy DC Organizer | Washington Hispanics | The Daily Caller

 

[Luissa]

You know... I bet that'd be true too.

I stopped watching when they pulled "Liquid Television" in 1994, which I did not need to be stoned to watch. But they suckered me back for a short period with "Daria" which got pulled in 2006ish.

la la LA la laaaaa....

You like Daria?
You just scored a few points in my book. I was a big Beavis and Butthead fan, then a HUGE Daria fan. I remember watching Mtv all day long, now I don't even know what channel it is on. When we switched to Directv I have never bothered to look.


You know what I also miss? Pop up video.

For so long the only videos worth watching were those.

BTW, the entire Daria series is available on DVD now. But I'm not buying it for that price... yet.

You can get it on Netflix.
It was Mtv2 for awhile, but I don't think they run it anymore.

 

[The Gadfly]

I guess the question was too hard for Dragon... or maybe he really doesn't want to answer - at least, not honestly.

Which begs the question. Do the left really want to tear up the Constitution and create a new America?

You know full well that's what they want.

Dragon ducked the question instead of lying, he deserves some credit for that shred of integrity.

Yep, that is what we want. And we want to put Castro in the White House.

I really believe you would, if you could.

 

[The Gadfly]

Dragon, you sound like a broken record with all this "Prove it!" nonsense. We don't have to prove anything (I doubt we could prove the sky is blue to your crazed little movement); no, all we have to do is hang the responsibility for this "movement" and whatever violence it eventually provokes, around the necks of the Obama campaign and the democrat party, like a great big, putrescent albatross, and to do that, all we have to do is show the people just who the preponderance of the evidence suggests was involved in ginning this up and funding it. In the court of public opinion, circumstantial evidence is a powerful thing, and we have plenty of it. We don't have to convict you in a court of law; only in the court of public opinion, and we've learned well from your side how to do that. When this turns disorderly, and then violent, we'll use that too! The Left is about to destroy itself, and we are going to give it all the help we can, toward that end. I frankly don't care what we have to do to accomplish that. Now, you go enjoy your little "peoples revolution". I think it's going to be short-lived. Not only are we going to defeat Obama and the democrats; you fools are going to help us do it!

 

[Dragon]

Dragon, you sound like a broken record with all this "Prove it!" nonsense. We don't have to prove anything

You do if you want to be taken seriously. Otherwise you are just spouting unsupported paranoid nonsense -- and that is, in fact, exactly what you are doing.

no, all we have to do is hang the responsibility for this "movement" and whatever violence it eventually provokes, around the necks of the Obama campaign and the democrat party

Poll: Occupy Wall Street Starts Off With Favorable Ratings

You sure you want to do that? Seems to me it's a tactic that could easily backfire.

Here is a statement I can't prove, but know to be true. This is not going to be short-lived. It has the support of a majority of a whole generation. This, or other activities like it -- protest from the center-left -- are going to be a dominant theme in politics for the next 15-20 years. Occupy Wall Street may conceivably itself die down (although at present it shows no sign of doing so), but if it does it will be because the energy is going elsewhere, into other venues of protest.

 

[WillowTree]

Dragon, you sound like a broken record with all this "Prove it!" nonsense. We don't have to prove anything

You do if you want to be taken seriously. Otherwise you are just spouting unsupported paranoid nonsense -- and that is, in fact, exactly what you are doing.

no, all we have to do is hang the responsibility for this "movement" and whatever violence it eventually provokes, around the necks of the Obama campaign and the democrat party

Poll: Occupy Wall Street Starts Off With Favorable Ratings

You sure you want to do that? Seems to me it's a tactic that could easily backfire.

Here is a statement I can't prove, but know to be true. This is not going to be short-lived. It has the support of a majority of a whole generation. This, or other activities like it -- protest from the center-left -- are going to be a dominant theme in politics for the next 15-20 years. Occupy Wall Street may conceivably itself die down (although at present it shows no sign of doing so), but if it does it will be because the energy is going elsewhere, into other venues of protest.

I cannot name a single person on this board who gives a hairy rats ass whether you the moron take them seriously or knot! Can you?

 

[California Girl]

You know full well that's what they want.

Dragon ducked the question instead of lying, he deserves some credit for that shred of integrity.

Yep, that is what we want. And we want to put Castro in the White House.

I really believe you would, if you could.

I don't believe that. At least, not the liberals. The left....yea.... but liberals... nope. The problem is that the liberals seem to be accepting what they are told about OWS rather than digging around to find who's really behind it.

 

[Valerie]

Dragon, you sound like a broken record with all this "Prove it!" nonsense. We don't have to prove anything (I doubt we could prove the sky is blue to your crazed little movement); no, all we have to do is hang the responsibility for this "movement" and whatever violence it eventually provokes, around the necks of the Obama campaign and the democrat party, like a great big, putrescent albatross, and to do that, all we have to do is show the people just who the preponderance of the evidence suggests was involved in ginning this up and funding it. In the court of public opinion, circumstantial evidence is a powerful thing, and we have plenty of it. We don't have to convict you in a court of law; only in the court of public opinion, and we've learned well from your side how to do that. When this turns disorderly, and then violent, we'll use that too! The Left is about to destroy itself, and we are going to give it all the help we can, toward that end. I frankly don't care what we have to do to accomplish that. Now, you go enjoy your little "peoples revolution". I think it's going to be short-lived. Not only are we going to defeat Obama and the democrats; you fools are going to help us do it!

Dragon, you sound like a broken record with all this "Prove it!" nonsense. We don't have to prove anything (I doubt we could prove the sky is blue to your crazed little movement);




LIAR!

 

[JWBooth]

Here is a statement I can't prove, but know to be true. This is not going to be short-lived. It has the support of a majority of a whole generation. This, or other activities like it -- protest from the center-left -- are going to be a dominant theme in politics for the next 15-20 years. Occupy Wall Street may conceivably itself die down (although at present it shows no sign of doing so), but if it does it will be because the energy is going elsewhere, into other venues of protest.

The sum total of what you know could be put in a 55 gallon drum, and there would still be 55 gallons of capacity in that drum.

 

[JWBooth]

 

[WillowTree]

Dragon, you sound like a broken record with all this "Prove it!" nonsense. We don't have to prove anything (I doubt we could prove the sky is blue to your crazed little movement); no, all we have to do is hang the responsibility for this "movement" and whatever violence it eventually provokes, around the necks of the Obama campaign and the democrat party, like a great big, putrescent albatross, and to do that, all we have to do is show the people just who the preponderance of the evidence suggests was involved in ginning this up and funding it. In the court of public opinion, circumstantial evidence is a powerful thing, and we have plenty of it. We don't have to convict you in a court of law; only in the court of public opinion, and we've learned well from your side how to do that. When this turns disorderly, and then violent, we'll use that too! The Left is about to destroy itself, and we are going to give it all the help we can, toward that end. I frankly don't care what we have to do to accomplish that. Now, you go enjoy your little "peoples revolution". I think it's going to be short-lived. Not only are we going to defeat Obama and the democrats; you fools are going to help us do it!

Dragon, you sound like a broken record with all this "Prove it!" nonsense. We don't have to prove anything (I doubt we could prove the sky is blue to your crazed little movement);




LIAR!