Observation: Venezuela long term success will depend on...
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kyzr
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1. Hostages are irrelevant
2. Oil control needs to be sorted out, stay tuned
3. Iran has no say in VZ
Success depends how fast oil and revenue can flow into the VZ coffers, and a new president can be elected.
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MarcATL
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What's the morality of the Monroe Doctrine, might is right, right?
The people will elect a new corrupt dictator from the pool of corrupt dictators that shit hole countries attract.
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Maduro had also ties to the genocider Hamas.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio with Kristen Welker of NBC’s Meet the Press Interview
Marco Rubio, Secretary of State.
Miami, Florida.
January 4, 2026
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SECRETARY RUBIO: Well, here’s what’s happened. We’ve got this phobia built up and this sort of thing that’s a psyche. Number one, most of the experts that people have on, I watch these experts and it’s clown hour, okay? These are people that have focused their entire career on the Middle East or some other part of the world because that’s where all the action was. They – very few of them know anything about Venezuela or the Western Hemisphere. Venezuela looks nothing like Libya. It looks nothing like Iraq. It looks nothing like Afghanistan. It looks nothing like the Middle East other than the Iranian agents that are running through there plotting against America. Okay? These are Western countries with long traditions among their – at a people-to-people and cultural level, and ties to the United States. So this is nothing like that.
So I think people need to stop ascribing the apples and oranges here, the apples of the Middle East to the oranges of the Western Hemisphere.
Marco Rubio, Secretary of State.
Miami, Florida.
January 4, 2026
[...]
SECRETARY RUBIO: Well, here’s what’s happened. We’ve got this phobia built up and this sort of thing that’s a psyche. Number one, most of the experts that people have on, I watch these experts and it’s clown hour, okay? These are people that have focused their entire career on the Middle East or some other part of the world because that’s where all the action was. They – very few of them know anything about Venezuela or the Western Hemisphere. Venezuela looks nothing like Libya. It looks nothing like Iraq. It looks nothing like Afghanistan. It looks nothing like the Middle East other than the Iranian agents that are running through there plotting against America. Okay? These are Western countries with long traditions among their – at a people-to-people and cultural level, and ties to the United States. So this is nothing like that.
So I think people need to stop ascribing the apples and oranges here, the apples of the Middle East to the oranges of the Western Hemisphere.
No. It’s that any foreign interference in the affairs of the Americas is a potential threat to the United States
Thethingsz
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Right
kyzr
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- Arrest and Sentencing: Saab was arrested in 2019 and was subsequently sentenced to 12 years in prison in 2023 for charges related to terrorism, including:
- Providing material support to a terrorist organization
- Military training receipt
- Marriage fraud to gain U.S. citizenship
8,000,000 Venezuelans emigrated out of VZ since Maduro took power.
Maduro emptied his prisons and sent them to the US thru Biden's open borders
VZ needs oil jobs and then people could move back.
MarcATL
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The irony. How did Venezuela interfere w/America's affairs?
Wow, what i wrote went right over your head
China, Iran, have by propping up a narcoterrorist dictator. We arrested him. That simple
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Get this anti American bullshit out of my face. If i was the president, i would burn an entire nation down, just to get a single American free. I would kill a million foreigners to get a single hostage back.
It’s now the Donroe Doctrine.
Plenty: drug trafficking. Plus they interfered in our elections.
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Shipping oil to our enemies, emptying out their prisons and sending all those violent crazy people to the US, confiscating American companies in Venezuela, and trafficking drugs that kill Americans by the thousands.
kyzr
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When Trump decides who is to be president, I'm sure he will get all hostages out. No need to worry about them now or make more enemies by bombing civilians.
MarcATL
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How did Venezuela interfere in our elections?
BTW, do you believe that Russia ever interfere w/our elections?
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