Obesity is NOT beautiful! :(

[Marion Morrison]

I don't really see much difference between this and telling young people that smoking is "beautiful." Obesity and smoking are NOT beautiful. In most instances, both are not necessary. MOST people are fat because they eat too much of the wrong kinds of food.

You should be healthy thick or thin. But if you start getting a belly gut or love handles it's time to do something about it.

What if you had a belly all your life? Then what?

 

[Marion Morrison]

I don't really see much difference between this and telling young people that smoking is "beautiful." Obesity and smoking are NOT beautiful. In most instances, both are not necessary. MOST people are fat because they eat too much of the wrong kinds of food.

Okay, I have my own take on this.

5-6 years ago, I wanted to go for a bike ride on the trail up by my friend's place.

His son and son's cousin wanted to come with.

His son is thin and built like him back in the day, the cousin would be considered "obese" he's a big boy, always been weighty.

I like to keep a pretty good clip when I ride, and lemme tell ya: Big boy was keeping up while we actually had to stop and wait for skinny boy.

Big boy was in better shape.



Some people are built the way they are and some people are in better shape than others is what I came away with.

This can be true, but we aren't talking about the exceptions. We are talking about the RULE. MOST fat people here in America are fat because they eat too much junk and they are unhealthy. That is a fact.

Not a lot of fat Germans. It's how they eat and exercise

I'll refrain from ubermenschen and Schultz posts and go straight here:

I like Warsteiner. I've done enough jobs for German people and that's what they give me when I'm done.

 

[sealybobo]

I don't really see much difference between this and telling young people that smoking is "beautiful." Obesity and smoking are NOT beautiful. In most instances, both are not necessary. MOST people are fat because they eat too much of the wrong kinds of food.

You should be healthy thick or thin. But if you start getting a belly gut or love handles it's time to do something about it.

What if you had a belly all your life? Then what?

It is true even someone like that could change if they wanted to. You've seen biggest loser? And most of them get fat again once they stop exercising and eating right.

Skinny people don't realize it's harder for non skinny people. Chrisl is clearly a skinny person who lacks empathy.

Not a lot of fat Greeks. They eat good and walk. At least that used to be true.

Ask my bro he lived in Switzerland for 4 years. Smaller portions for sure

 

[ChrisL]

I don't really see much difference between this and telling young people that smoking is "beautiful." Obesity and smoking are NOT beautiful. In most instances, both are not necessary. MOST people are fat because they eat too much of the wrong kinds of food.

Okay, I have my own take on this.

5-6 years ago, I wanted to go for a bike ride on the trail up by my friend's place.

His son and son's cousin wanted to come with.

His son is thin and built like him back in the day, the cousin would be considered "obese" he's a big boy, always been weighty.

I like to keep a pretty good clip when I ride, and lemme tell ya: Big boy was keeping up while we actually had to stop and wait for skinny boy.

Big boy was in better shape.



Some people are built the way they are and some people are in better shape than others is what I came away with.

This can be true, but we aren't talking about the exceptions. We are talking about the RULE. MOST fat people here in America are fat because they eat too much junk and they are unhealthy. That is a fact.

Not a lot of fat Germans. It's how they eat and exercise

I'm sure it's only a matter of time until they start getting fat too. They have McDonald's over there? People are going to get fat. Lol.

 

[ChrisL]

I don't really see much difference between this and telling young people that smoking is "beautiful." Obesity and smoking are NOT beautiful. In most instances, both are not necessary. MOST people are fat because they eat too much of the wrong kinds of food.

You should be healthy thick or thin. But if you start getting a belly gut or love handles it's time to do something about it.

What if you had a belly all your life? Then what?

It is true even someone like that could change if they wanted to. You've seen biggest loser? And most of them get fat again once they stop exercising and eating right.

Skinny people don't realize it's harder for non skinny people. Chrisl is clearly a skinny person who lacks empathy.

Not a lot of fat Greeks. They eat good and walk. At least that used to be true.

Ask my bro he lived in Switzerland for 4 years. Smaller portions for sure

Empathy for lazy people who eat ding dongs all day? Why should they have empathy? Do you have empathy for smokers?

 

[PredFan]

I am getting tired of hearing these obese people try to make it sound as if obesity is some kind of "fashion statement." Obesity is bad for our health, costs us billions of dollars in medical expenses and is just as bad as smoking! Encouraging obesity is like encouraging smoking or any other bad habit. Obesity is NOT fashionable and for a very good reason!

While I think the CEO's comments about obese people were rather crude, I think this woman is even worse to push such an unhealthy lifestyle. If a 10-year-old is on a diet because he or she is overweight, then that is a GOOD thing!

'Attractive & Fat' and Abercrombie controversy - CNN.com



Jes Baker is cutting retailer Abercrombie & Fitch down to size.

Baker, who blogs under the name "The Militant Baker" and wears a size 22, changed the brand's A&F logo to "Attractive & Fat" in a mock, black-and-white Abercrombie ad to challenge the line's branding efforts.

The photos come as a provocative response to contentious comments Abercrombie CEO Mike Jeffries made in a 2006 Salon article about the multibillion-dollar brand's target audience.

"In every school there are the cool and popular kids, and then there are the not-so-cool kids," Jeffries said. "Candidly, we go after the cool kids. We go after the attractive all-American kid with a great attitude and a lot of friends. A lot of people don't belong [in our clothes], and they can't belong. Are we exclusionary? Absolutely."

The divisive remarks resurfaced earlier this month after a series of protests went viral, from Greg Karber's video of himself giving homeless people Abercrombie clothing to a Change.org petition for larger sizes by a teenage eating disorder survivor.

The plus-size community particularly took umbrage to the CEO's business model because the retailer currently does not offer clothes above size 10 or large for women.

"I challenge the separation of attractive and fat, and I assert that they are compatible regardless of what you believe," Baker, 26, wrote in a public letter addressed to the CEO.

Jeffries has since apologized in a statement: "While I believe this 7-year-old, resurrected quote has been taken out of context, I sincerely regret that my choice of words was interpreted in a manner that has caused offense."

Baker spoke to CNN about Jeffries' comments and her motivations to address them. The interview has been edited for clarity and brevity.

CNN: You start your letter with a preface that Jeffries' opinion "isn't shocking; millions share the same sentiment." The comments are from 2006 -- what motivated you to act on them?

Jes Baker: It really wasn't upset or outrage at all. I've been an art major for the majority of my academic life, and so I am always trying to find opportunities to do something artistic.

I just thought we don't see the juxtaposition of typical and atypical bodies in advertising specifically. Since I am a woman and I am fat and that's what I have to work with, I wanted to show that contrast by finding a male model.

Really, it just came because I wanted to not be angry about it. I wanted to not say, "This is an outrage, I've never heard of this before," but say, "OK, well, look at this. Look at how awesome this is."

And, I think when you're talking about really serious subjects, and this is kind of serious, it's important to be a little bit cheeky and pull in a little bit of humor so that it's approachable -- and it worked.

It depends. If you go by the insurance definition of obesity, it can be. Skinny women are not attractive at all.

I agree though, some of the women on TV and in ads claiming that fat is beautiful are definitely fooling only themselves.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I find a wide variety of women attractive, from a larger boned taller Fijian, to those tall, lithe, brunette GA peaches,

to short, hot Texas girls (they can't be all blonde) to smaller local Latin women. Reowr!

 

[ChrisL]

I am getting tired of hearing these obese people try to make it sound as if obesity is some kind of "fashion statement." Obesity is bad for our health, costs us billions of dollars in medical expenses and is just as bad as smoking! Encouraging obesity is like encouraging smoking or any other bad habit. Obesity is NOT fashionable and for a very good reason!

While I think the CEO's comments about obese people were rather crude, I think this woman is even worse to push such an unhealthy lifestyle. If a 10-year-old is on a diet because he or she is overweight, then that is a GOOD thing!

'Attractive & Fat' and Abercrombie controversy - CNN.com



Jes Baker is cutting retailer Abercrombie & Fitch down to size.

Baker, who blogs under the name "The Militant Baker" and wears a size 22, changed the brand's A&F logo to "Attractive & Fat" in a mock, black-and-white Abercrombie ad to challenge the line's branding efforts.

The photos come as a provocative response to contentious comments Abercrombie CEO Mike Jeffries made in a 2006 Salon article about the multibillion-dollar brand's target audience.

"In every school there are the cool and popular kids, and then there are the not-so-cool kids," Jeffries said. "Candidly, we go after the cool kids. We go after the attractive all-American kid with a great attitude and a lot of friends. A lot of people don't belong [in our clothes], and they can't belong. Are we exclusionary? Absolutely."

The divisive remarks resurfaced earlier this month after a series of protests went viral, from Greg Karber's video of himself giving homeless people Abercrombie clothing to a Change.org petition for larger sizes by a teenage eating disorder survivor.

The plus-size community particularly took umbrage to the CEO's business model because the retailer currently does not offer clothes above size 10 or large for women.

"I challenge the separation of attractive and fat, and I assert that they are compatible regardless of what you believe," Baker, 26, wrote in a public letter addressed to the CEO.

Jeffries has since apologized in a statement: "While I believe this 7-year-old, resurrected quote has been taken out of context, I sincerely regret that my choice of words was interpreted in a manner that has caused offense."

Baker spoke to CNN about Jeffries' comments and her motivations to address them. The interview has been edited for clarity and brevity.

CNN: You start your letter with a preface that Jeffries' opinion "isn't shocking; millions share the same sentiment." The comments are from 2006 -- what motivated you to act on them?

Jes Baker: It really wasn't upset or outrage at all. I've been an art major for the majority of my academic life, and so I am always trying to find opportunities to do something artistic.

I just thought we don't see the juxtaposition of typical and atypical bodies in advertising specifically. Since I am a woman and I am fat and that's what I have to work with, I wanted to show that contrast by finding a male model.

Really, it just came because I wanted to not be angry about it. I wanted to not say, "This is an outrage, I've never heard of this before," but say, "OK, well, look at this. Look at how awesome this is."

And, I think when you're talking about really serious subjects, and this is kind of serious, it's important to be a little bit cheeky and pull in a little bit of humor so that it's approachable -- and it worked.

It depends. If you go by the insurance definition of obesity, it can be. Skinny women are not attractive at all.

I agree though, some of the women on TV and in ads claiming that fat is beautiful are definitely fooling only themselves.

Who said anything about skinny women? The thread is about obesity, not anorexia.

 

[ChrisL]

Of course people who are too skinny are going to have health problems too! The thing is, people being TOO SKINNY is not much of a huge problem here in the United States. Quite the opposite, actually. People in other countries make fun of us Americans because we are SO fat and out of shape.

 

[ChrisL]

Bringing up "skinny" people is a total strawman. Skinny people are not the ones who are suffering from diabetes (which, BTW, many children and teens are now suffering from, which NEVER used to be the case except for in rare instances), and other such diseases related to being obese, poor diet, and not enough exercise.

Now, you can beat me up over me posting the FACTS, but I am not the one who made Americans fat.

 

[ChrisL]

I find a wide variety of women attractive, from a larger boned taller Fijian, to those tall, lithe, brunette GA peaches,

to short, hot Texas girls (they can't be all blonde) to smaller local Latin women. Reowr!

When did I ask what you thought was attractive? Again, this thread is about a plus sized model who was telling girls that it is okay to just be fat, not to go on a diet, not to listen to their doctors, etc.

 

[sealybobo]

I don't really see much difference between this and telling young people that smoking is "beautiful." Obesity and smoking are NOT beautiful. In most instances, both are not necessary. MOST people are fat because they eat too much of the wrong kinds of food.

You should be healthy thick or thin. But if you start getting a belly gut or love handles it's time to do something about it.

What if you had a belly all your life? Then what?

It is true even someone like that could change if they wanted to. You've seen biggest loser? And most of them get fat again once they stop exercising and eating right.

Skinny people don't realize it's harder for non skinny people. Chrisl is clearly a skinny person who lacks empathy.

Not a lot of fat Greeks. They eat good and walk. At least that used to be true.

Ask my bro he lived in Switzerland for 4 years. Smaller portions for sure

Empathy for lazy people who eat ding dongs all day? Why should they have empathy? Do you have empathy for smokers?

No, empathy for people with a bigger bone structure and slower metabolism. You're lucky you hot little bitch. You don't even have an appetite probably. Eat like a bird. Either that or you eat what you want and just don't put on weight. But you guys have your own problems later in life too but overall you skinnies live a long time.

Yes most Americans are fat cause of what they put in their mouths but I have three nephews. Two don't eat anything the third eats like a horse. Why? Why does one have an eating disorder and the other two don't?

 

[Marion Morrison]

I find a wide variety of women attractive, from a larger boned taller Fijian, to those tall, lithe, brunette GA peaches,

to short, hot Texas girls (they can't be all blonde) to smaller local Latin women. Reowr!

When did I ask what you thought was attractive? Again, this thread is about a plus sized model who was telling girls that it is okay to just be fat, not to go on a diet, not to listen to their doctors, etc.

Message duly noted. Just know that I know that it's really not how you think it is.

 

[sealybobo]

Of course people who are too skinny are going to have health problems too! The thing is, people being TOO SKINNY is not much of a huge problem here in the United States. Quite the opposite, actually. People in other countries make fun of us Americans because we are SO fat and out of shape.

South America I hear is worse. All they eat is deep fried.

 

[ChrisL]

I find a wide variety of women attractive, from a larger boned taller Fijian, to those tall, lithe, brunette GA peaches,

to short, hot Texas girls (they can't be all blonde) to smaller local Latin women. Reowr!

When did I ask what you thought was attractive? Again, this thread is about a plus sized model who was telling girls that it is okay to just be fat, not to go on a diet, not to listen to their doctors, etc.

Message duly noted. Just know that I know that it's really not how you think it is.

What are you talking about? What is with you peeps? Can you not have a normal discussion about the problems of obesity in America?

Or are you saying that you find fat women attractive? I'm really not sure what the point of your post was, TBH.

 

[ChrisL]

Of course people who are too skinny are going to have health problems too! The thing is, people being TOO SKINNY is not much of a huge problem here in the United States. Quite the opposite, actually. People in other countries make fun of us Americans because we are SO fat and out of shape.

South America I hear is worse. All they eat is deep fried.

Is that what you heard? Hmm.

America is the Fattest Country in the World. A new study released by the Global Burden of Disease published in Lancet lists the ten countries with the highest rate of obesity. America weighs in at number 1. According to the study, 78 millionAmericans are obese or 33% of the population.

 

[Vastator]

Thin for the win...

 

[ChrisL]

I don't really see much difference between this and telling young people that smoking is "beautiful." Obesity and smoking are NOT beautiful. In most instances, both are not necessary. MOST people are fat because they eat too much of the wrong kinds of food.

You should be healthy thick or thin. But if you start getting a belly gut or love handles it's time to do something about it.

What if you had a belly all your life? Then what?

It is true even someone like that could change if they wanted to. You've seen biggest loser? And most of them get fat again once they stop exercising and eating right.

Skinny people don't realize it's harder for non skinny people. Chrisl is clearly a skinny person who lacks empathy.

Not a lot of fat Greeks. They eat good and walk. At least that used to be true.

Ask my bro he lived in Switzerland for 4 years. Smaller portions for sure

Empathy for lazy people who eat ding dongs all day? Why should they have empathy? Do you have empathy for smokers?

No, empathy for people with a bigger bone structure and slower metabolism. You're lucky you hot little bitch. You don't even have an appetite probably. Eat like a bird. Either that or you eat what you want and just don't put on weight. But you guys have your own problems later in life too but overall you skinnies live a long time.

Yes most Americans are fat cause of what they put in their mouths but I have three nephews. Two don't eat anything the third eats like a horse. Why? Why does one have an eating disorder and the other two don't?

This isn't about "bigger bone structure." It is about OBESITY. Now, I'm trying to give you yet ANOTHER chance to act like a decent person. If you can't handle that, then I would suggest you abandon thread.

 

[Vastator]

I have a buddy who is a self proffessed "chubby chaser". When I finally managed to corner him for an answer as to why; he divulged that fat women are more likely to put out, with minimal investment in his part. Which makes a lot of sense for someone just trying to get laid, and nothing more.
Do this experiment next time you're in public; Count the number of fat women, and compare that to the number of thin women. Then look to see how many thin women are single. Either unaccompanied, or without rings... The results will be self explainatory. Trying to find a single, attractive, thin woman, is like trying to find unicorn feathers...

 

[ChrisL]

I have a buddy who is a self progressed "chubby chaser". When I finally managed to corner him for an answer as to why; he divulged that fat women are more likely to put out, with minimal investment in his part. Which makes a lot of sense for someone just trying to get laid, and nothing more.
Do this experiment next time you're in public; Count the number of fat women, and compare that to the number of thin women. Then look to see how many thin women are single. Either unaccompanied, or without rings... The results will be self explainatory. Trying to find a single, attractive, thin woman, is like trying to find unicorn feathers...

That's what happens when nearly half the population is obese. It's really quite sad when you see fat kids and teenagers. When I was a kid, fat kids were not the norm. It seems like they are the new "normal," especially teenagers. I see many young people who are much too fat. I wonder what life will be like them when they are older if they keep going down the same path?