easyt65
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Obamagate is Worse Than Watergate
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Strjok and Page texts reveal a plan to use briefings with Trump team members to try to find people they could "flip" and use as operatives against Trump.
Text messages between former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page indicate they discussed using briefings to the Trump team after the 2016 election to identify people they could "develop for potential relationships," track lines of questioning and "assess" changes in "demeanor" – language one GOP lawmaker called “more evidence” of irregular conduct in the original Russia probe.
Fox News has learned the texts, initially released in 2018 by a Senate committee, are under renewed scrutiny, with GOP Sens. Chuck Grassley and Homeland Security Committee chair Ron Johnson sending a letter Thursday night to Attorney General Bill Barr pushing for more information on the matter.
"Any improper FBI surveillance activities that were conducted before or after the 2016 election must be brought to light and properly addressed," the senators wrote.
Strzok-Page texts suggested using post-election briefing to gather information on Trump team | Fox News
Text messages between former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page indicate they discussed using briefings to the Trump team after the 2016 election to identify people they could "develop for potential relationships," track lines of questioning and "assess" changes in "demeanor" – language one GOP lawmaker called “more evidence” of irregular conduct in the original Russia probe.
Fox News has learned the texts, initially released in 2018 by a Senate committee, are under renewed scrutiny, with GOP Sens. Chuck Grassley and Homeland Security Committee chair Ron Johnson sending a letter Thursday night to Attorney General Bill Barr pushing for more information on the matter.
"Any improper FBI surveillance activities that were conducted before or after the 2016 election must be brought to light and properly addressed," the senators wrote.
Strzok-Page texts suggested using post-election briefing to gather information on Trump team | Fox News
boedicca
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James Clapper knew that there was no Russian Collusion back in 2016, but was one of the standard bearers of the Anti-Trump narrative. He'll definitely be a person of interest in the Obamagate investiation.
From July 2016 until Clapper’s appearance on “Meet the Press” in March 2017, not one shred of evidence linked anyone in Trump’s campaign to allegations listed in the Christopher Steele dossier or Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos’s meeting with Australian diplomat Alexander Downer. Clapper stated to Chuck Todd on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on March 5, 2017 that the National Security Agency, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and Central Intelligence Agency had collected “no evidence” regarding “improper contacts” between Trump and Russia:
CHUCK TODD: Well, that’s an important revelation at this point. Let me ask you this. Does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials?
JAMES CLAPPER: We did not include any evidence in our report, and I say, ‘our,’ that’s N.S.A., F.B.I. and C.I.A., with my office, the Director of National Intelligence, that had anything, that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that included in our report.
CHUCK TODD: I understand that. But does it exist?
JAMES CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.
CHUCK TODD: If it existed, it would have been in this report?
JAMES CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government.
CHUCK TODD: At some–
JAMES CLAPPER: But at the time, we had no evidence of such collusion.
So, President Obama’s top intelligence official and a man with access to FBI, CIA, and NSA surveillance on President Trump’s campaign stated categorically that no evidence existed of “any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.” This was two months before Rosenstein appointed Mueller special counsel, and Clapper’s knowledge dated into 2017. So why did Rosenstein appoint Mueller?
James Clapper Knew There Was No Evidence of Collusion In 2016
From July 2016 until Clapper’s appearance on “Meet the Press” in March 2017, not one shred of evidence linked anyone in Trump’s campaign to allegations listed in the Christopher Steele dossier or Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos’s meeting with Australian diplomat Alexander Downer. Clapper stated to Chuck Todd on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on March 5, 2017 that the National Security Agency, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and Central Intelligence Agency had collected “no evidence” regarding “improper contacts” between Trump and Russia:
CHUCK TODD: Well, that’s an important revelation at this point. Let me ask you this. Does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials?
JAMES CLAPPER: We did not include any evidence in our report, and I say, ‘our,’ that’s N.S.A., F.B.I. and C.I.A., with my office, the Director of National Intelligence, that had anything, that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that included in our report.
CHUCK TODD: I understand that. But does it exist?
JAMES CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.
CHUCK TODD: If it existed, it would have been in this report?
JAMES CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government.
CHUCK TODD: At some–
JAMES CLAPPER: But at the time, we had no evidence of such collusion.
So, President Obama’s top intelligence official and a man with access to FBI, CIA, and NSA surveillance on President Trump’s campaign stated categorically that no evidence existed of “any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.” This was two months before Rosenstein appointed Mueller special counsel, and Clapper’s knowledge dated into 2017. So why did Rosenstein appoint Mueller?
James Clapper Knew There Was No Evidence of Collusion In 2016
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Obama colluded with Ukraine to undermine Trump campaign and shield Biden's son from corruption investigation.
Helping Hillary:
Kulyk said Ukrainian authorities had evidence that other Western figures, such as former Obama White House counsel Gregory Craig, also received money from Yanukovych’s party. But the Americans weren’t interested: “They just discussed Manafort. This was all and only what they wanted. Nobody else.”
Manafort joined Trump’s campaign on March 29, 2016, and then was promoted to campaign chairman on May 19, 2016.
NABU leaked the existence of the ledgers on May 29, 2016. Later that summer, it told U.S. media the ledgers showed payments to Manafort, a revelation that forced him to resign from the campaign in August 2016.
A Ukrainian court in December concluded NABU’s release of the ledger was an illegal attempt to influence the U.S. election. And a member of Ukraine’s parliament has released a recording of a NABU official saying the agency released the ledger to help Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
Covering up for Biden:
The other case raised at the January 2016 meeting, he said, involved Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company under investigation in Ukraine for improper foreign transfers of money. At the time, Burisma allegedly was paying then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter as both a board member and a consultant. More than $3 million flowed from Ukraine to an American firm tied to Hunter Biden in 2014-15, bank records show.
Telizhenko said U.S. officials told the Ukrainians they would prefer that Kiev drop the Burisma probe and allow the FBI to take it over. The Ukrainians did not agree. But then Joe Biden pressured Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to fire Ukraine’s chief prosecutor in March 2016, as I previously reported. The Burisma case was transferred to NABU, then shut down.
How the Obama White House engaged Ukraine to give Russia collusion narrative an early boost
Helping Hillary:
Kulyk said Ukrainian authorities had evidence that other Western figures, such as former Obama White House counsel Gregory Craig, also received money from Yanukovych’s party. But the Americans weren’t interested: “They just discussed Manafort. This was all and only what they wanted. Nobody else.”
Manafort joined Trump’s campaign on March 29, 2016, and then was promoted to campaign chairman on May 19, 2016.
NABU leaked the existence of the ledgers on May 29, 2016. Later that summer, it told U.S. media the ledgers showed payments to Manafort, a revelation that forced him to resign from the campaign in August 2016.
A Ukrainian court in December concluded NABU’s release of the ledger was an illegal attempt to influence the U.S. election. And a member of Ukraine’s parliament has released a recording of a NABU official saying the agency released the ledger to help Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
Covering up for Biden:
The other case raised at the January 2016 meeting, he said, involved Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company under investigation in Ukraine for improper foreign transfers of money. At the time, Burisma allegedly was paying then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter as both a board member and a consultant. More than $3 million flowed from Ukraine to an American firm tied to Hunter Biden in 2014-15, bank records show.
Telizhenko said U.S. officials told the Ukrainians they would prefer that Kiev drop the Burisma probe and allow the FBI to take it over. The Ukrainians did not agree. But then Joe Biden pressured Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to fire Ukraine’s chief prosecutor in March 2016, as I previously reported. The Burisma case was transferred to NABU, then shut down.
How the Obama White House engaged Ukraine to give Russia collusion narrative an early boost
dudmuck
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What really happened:
Barack Obama was 'afraid' to bring this up before the election for political reasons. That turned out to not be the best idea.
NY FBI aka "Trumplandia" gamed the timing of the Anthony Weiner device for maximum damage before the election, whereas Peter Strzok's convenient text messaging came out when it was too late.
Republican James Comey selectively discussed reopening an investigation against Hillary Clinton while keeping secret an investigation into the Donald Trump campaign.
It is amazing how Republicans get advantages before elections then cry that somehow they were cheated once elections are over and they've taken the benefits.
---> John Solomon is worthless <---
Any evidence?
Stay complacent, swampy.
It will be more amusing to see your wee peabrain sized head explode if the pressure continues to build up.
What pressure. Judicial Watch is run by the originator of Clinton Derangement Syndrome, an affiliation you seem to share.
Of course Obama has Clinton’s emails. She was his SS. They were in constant touch.
Clinton’s server wasn’t illegal. There is nothing nefarious about it. Everyone in Washington knew about it. They passed a law against using private servers AFTER Clinton left office because of Hillary.
It only became an issue in 2016 as a way to smear her potential candidacy and you lemmings are still on about it.
The whole Hillary email scandal was a witch hunt, and about as valid as the brother hysteria.
Gawd but conservatives will fall for anything!
Hillary ever charged with anything?
Sweaty trey tried with 6? Investigations and 12 hours at the end.
All that happened was he was sweatier and admitted he had ZERO
Subversive comments on her emails?
Daughters private life!?
Any actual evidence?
Secret uranium emails?
What a laugh when we have a 9000 liar who stiffed contractors and banks all his life
Amusing, comey spewed Hillary info and did her in
Zero on don the con.
And comeys the villain??
I presume the trumpie old white farts will return their commie VA Medicare and SS?
Stay complacent, swampy.
It will be more amusing to see your wee peabrain sized head explode if the pressure continues to build up.
What pressure. Judicial Watch is run by the originator of Clinton Derangement Syndrome, an affiliation you seem to share.
Of course Obama has Clinton’s emails. She was his SS. They were in constant touch.
Clinton’s server wasn’t illegal. There is nothing nefarious about it. Everyone in Washington knew about it. They passed a law against using private servers AFTER Clinton left office because of Hillary.
It only became an issue in 2016 as a way to smear her potential candidacy and you lemmings are still on about it.
The whole Hillary email scandal was a witch hunt, and about as valid as the brother hysteria.
Gawd but conservatives will fall for anything!
^^^ Dwelling in a hardened Prog Bubble ^^^
I dwell in a foreign country you stupid *****. I get media from all around the world and only on this message board do I read this level of Russian based propaganda being spewed by a hardcore group of Russian trolls.
Every day, you filth are trying to convince Americans that their President is not undermining their democracy, the Russians are a fun bunch, and Trump is the best President ever, all reasonable evidence to the contrary. Trump is destroying farmers in the Mid-West in his trade war with China, he's destroying manufactuing in the North-East with his steel tariffs, and agriculture everywhere by ignoring climate change. But he's all over trying to build that wall.
You are a sorely misguided, misinformed and delusional (as well as vulgar) loon.
Stay complacent, swampy.
It will be more amusing to see your wee peabrain sized head explode if the pressure continues to build up.
Yep, trump will never get elected and your hero will indict him in minutes!
DUMBASS!
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this the IMPEACH TRUMP photo?
Stay complacent, swampy.
It will be more amusing to see your wee peabrain sized head explode if the pressure continues to build up.
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and RUSSIA is nothing but false hope to keep the left happy/busy so they won't notice they really don't have a platform at all.
period.
the end.
now **** off.
Dragonlady
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It's not the Democrats who have no platform. Build the Wall!, Lock her up! and Drain the Swamp! will not get it done this time. This is why Trump is now deliberately TRYING to force Democrats to impeach him. By fighting against any form of oversight, by trying use an emergency declaration end-around for his failure to secure Wall funding from either the Republican Congress or the Democratic Congress, by this failure to make proper financial disclosures to the American people or their Representatives, by claiming to be above the law, Trump is trying to force the Democrats to begin impeachment proceedings to continue to play the "victim" in this election campaign.
Trump has seen his approval plummet since the release of the Mueller Report, so now he's trying to play the sympathetic victim. Whatever happened to the tough guy who was going to stand up to dictators and bring respect for the American presidency back?
Trump told reporters on the White House Lawn this morning that he had an aide sign an agreement to pay the North Koreans $2 million to get Otto Warmbier back, but he never paid the money and he never had an intention of paying the money. Is this what you what people you are negotiating trade deals and treaties with to hear? The President of the United States lie to your face and he will make promises he has no intention of ever keeping, to get you to give him what he wants.
It worked with the mid-western farmers and production workers going into the last election. I don't think they'll make the same mistakes twice.
The working people who voted for Trump last time and got the policies of George W. Bush all over again - with bigger deficits and no reserve funds left, and who are still watching manufacturing plants close, and no new jobs on the horizon to replace them, no retraining being offered to displaced workers, no efforts being made to move into the new green economy, and efforts to revive coal and steel manufacturing turning into an expensive and protracted boondoogle which has cost far more jobs than it has saved.
The economic future of America was not written with 1950's policies, 1950's racism, and 1950's misogyny. Trump is already beating the war drums on Venezuela and Iran. Don't go back to being that country.
boedicca
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What a pathetic and tired canard. I reject your sophistry that people who are forced at gunpoint to pay taxes for things they don't support are ineligible to receive the services for which they have paid.
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This is going to be GREAT!
President Trump on Thursday renewed his vow to declassify a wide swath of "devastating" documents related to the Russia probe "and much more" - adding that he's glad he waited until the Mueller investigation was complete.
In a Thursday night phone interview on Fox News, host Sean Hannity asked "will you declassify the FISA applications, gang of 8 material, those 302s - what we call on this program 'the bucket of five'?"
To which Trump replied: "Yes, everything is going to be declassified - and more, much more than what you just mentioned. It will all be declassified, and I'm glad I waited because i thought that maybe they would obstruct if I did it early - and I think I was right. So I'm glad I waited, and now the Attorney General can take a look - a very strong look at whatever it is, but it will be declassified and more than what you just mentioned."
Trump Makes Post-Mueller Vow To Release "Devastating" FISA Docs
President Trump on Thursday renewed his vow to declassify a wide swath of "devastating" documents related to the Russia probe "and much more" - adding that he's glad he waited until the Mueller investigation was complete.
In a Thursday night phone interview on Fox News, host Sean Hannity asked "will you declassify the FISA applications, gang of 8 material, those 302s - what we call on this program 'the bucket of five'?"
To which Trump replied: "Yes, everything is going to be declassified - and more, much more than what you just mentioned. It will all be declassified, and I'm glad I waited because i thought that maybe they would obstruct if I did it early - and I think I was right. So I'm glad I waited, and now the Attorney General can take a look - a very strong look at whatever it is, but it will be declassified and more than what you just mentioned."
Trump Makes Post-Mueller Vow To Release "Devastating" FISA Docs
Dragonlady
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We await the release of these top secret documents. Every time there is such a release, the President looks like a lying piece of shit. Of course that's not a false impression.
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