Obamacare overcharged healthy & young people that needed insurance to help fund the cost of insurance for sick people

[DonGlock26]

Sad!!!

Take up a collection.

 

[DonGlock26]

Sure, but I doubt you'd understand it.

By all means explain to us how a sex change operation can save the patient's life.

 

[JoeB131]

By all means explain to us how a sex change operation can save the patient's life.

Access to gender-affirming care associated with lower suicide risk for transgender people

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu

Gender-affirming Care Saves Lives

Growing legislative attempts to limit, ban, or criminalize access to this critical model of medical care endangers the health and well-being of transgender and nonbinary youth.

www.columbiapsychiatry.org

Gender-affirming care can improve mental health outcomes in transgender youth

New research published in JAMA Network Open shows that gender-affirming hormones and puberty blockers have a beneficial impact on depression and suicide risk in transgender and nonbinary youth....

epi.washington.edu

Let me know if you need help with the big words.

 

[DonGlock26]

Access to gender-affirming care associated with lower suicide risk for transgender people

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu

Gender-affirming Care Saves Lives

Growing legislative attempts to limit, ban, or criminalize access to this critical model of medical care endangers the health and well-being of transgender and nonbinary youth.

www.columbiapsychiatry.org

Gender-affirming care can improve mental health outcomes in transgender youth

New research published in JAMA Network Open shows that gender-affirming hormones and puberty blockers have a beneficial impact on depression and suicide risk in transgender and nonbinary youth....

epi.washington.edu

Let me know if you need help with the big words.

Suicidal thoughts is a mental health issue, not a surgical emergency.

 

[SweetSue92]

Again, what taxes? Everyone pays taxes, which kind is what can change. (But let's assume you are talking strickly Federal Income Taxes.)

Agreed, you can't "invite the world" and have a viable system.

But see...

Some can't think beyond the bumper sticker.

Some equate "Single Payer" with "Universal Health Care" which of course are different programs.

Some see them as a bumper sticker fix to the ills of health care. (Typically many on the left.)

Some reject them as a bumper sticker not because the core ideas don't have merit, but because they are ideas supported by the left. (Typically many on the right.)

Me? I don't know.

People forget that under both Single Payer or UHC, the money they (and their employers) pay into health care via premiums, co-pays, deductibles, etc. would be transferred to fund a new system.

They (both sides) can also forget that Single Payer or UHC may not apply to everyone. Therefore the could still be multiple systems depending on the situation:

• Medicaid for the poor and disabled.
• Single Payer or UHC for working adults (and their dependents)
• Medicare for elder retirees
• VA / TRICARE for military related care

An honest evaluation of cost benefits needs to be done on a bipartisan basis, which is something in this political climate that isn't going to happen.

WW

I hope I am thinking beyond the bumper sticker. For example even though I'm conservative, the rot of pharma companies and private insurance companies is a real thing. So are the many, many ills of UHC/Single payer. It's a tricky problem with no easy solutions. Sadly.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I hope I am thinking beyond the bumper sticker. For example even though I'm conservative, the rot of pharma companies and private insurance companies is a real thing. So are the many, many ills of UHC/Single payer. It's a tricky problem with no easy solutions. Sadly.

Before ACA our family had fantastic health insurance, paid by my husband's firm. Over the years since it's devolved into us paying. It's not the firms fault, they're trying to manage it also. But sky rocketing premiums, higher deductibles is starting to add up.

ACA is a disaster

 

[SweetSue92]

Before ACA our family had fantastic health insurance, paid by my husband's firm. Over the years since it's devolved into us paying. It's not the firms fault, they're trying to manage it also. But sky rocketing premiums, higher deductibles is starting to add up.

ACA is a disaster

Could not agree more. There are a couple other factors at play too, such as Americans' general poor health and the pharma companies preference to KEEP us in poor health so they can charge us out the wazoo for their "cures"

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Could not agree more. There are a couple other factors at play too, such as Americans' general poor health and the pharma companies preference to KEEP us in poor health so they can charge us out the wazoo for their "cures"

It's just a mess and evidently nobody wants to address it.

 

[DonGlock26]

Before ACA our family had fantastic health insurance, paid by my husband's firm. Over the years since it's devolved into us paying. It's not the firms fault, they're trying to manage it also. But sky rocketing premiums, higher deductibles is starting to add up.

ACA is a disaster

Unless you are a bum aka the Democrat base.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Unless you are a bum aka the Democrat base.

Pretty much. Gotta have free healthcare, Snap, etc etc

 

[DonGlock26]

Pretty much. Gotta have free healthcare, Snap, etc etc

Section 8 housing, Obamaphone, etc, etc, etc....

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Section 8 housing, Obamaphone, etc, etc, etc....

We paid for it

 

[Crepitus]

Obamacare has wrecked the health care of Americans because it is masked socialism.
It gave coverage to some by raising costs on most other people.

Tell me you don't understand how insurance works without saying you don't understand how insurance works.

 

[DonGlock26]

Tell me you don't understand how insurance works without saying you don't understand how insurance works.

That attempt at gaslighting doesn't work.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Tell me you don't understand how insurance works without saying you don't understand how insurance works.

Worn out gaslighting

 

[Crepitus]

That attempt at gaslighting doesn't work.

Whatever you say, Son.

But you should know, insurance does work that way. They charge healthier people to pay for the less healthy. All the money goes into a pool to pay claims. At least the money they don't use to pay stockholders and buy the CEO a new yacht.

Which, BTW, is one of the real reasons insurance costs so much. For profit health insurance should be illegal.

 

[Crepitus]

Worn out gaslighting

See post #236 above.

 

[DonGlock26]

Whatever you say, Son.

But you should know, insurance does work that way. They charge healthier people to pay for the less healthy. All the money goes into a pool to pay claims. At least the money they don't use to pay stockholders and buy the CEO a new yacht.

Which, BTW, is one of the real reasons insurance costs so much. For profit health insurance should be illegal.

When the gov't started subsidizing healthcare premiums, the costs skyrocketed just as college tuition skyrocket when the gov't began to guarantee student loans. You want to lower health costs and student tution? Stop the gov't from being involved financially.

 

[Crepitus]

When the gov't started subsidizing healthcare premiums, the costs skyrocketed just as college tuition skyrocket when the gov't began to guarantee student loans. You want to lower health costs and student tution? Stop the gov't from being involved financially.

Obama wanted single payer healthcare, just like the clintons before him. Obamacare was a compromise designed to get past republican objections. A compromise you guys have spent a coupe of decades sabotaging at this point, which is why the premiums has been going up so fast.

Should have just gone with single payer to begin with.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Section 8 housing, Obamaphone, etc, etc, etc....

Just a little history.

The "Lifeline Program" as it formally known.

Was started under Ronald Reagan in 1985.

WW