Obama was right when he warned Trump about Iran

[Flopper]

You guys keep saying that

Iran disposed of its enriched uranium, they destroyed their centrifuges, they were inspected by the rest of the world and found in compliance

How does that lead to war?

The sunset clause. All Obama did was provide Iran with money and kicked the can down the road.


Rest assured, however, we aren’t going to war with Iran. The Saudis and Israel will attack them and destroy their nuclear facilities when the time is appropriate

Sunset when?

Ten years vs NOW

How is Trumps way better?

In ten years Iran would have enjoyed time without sanctions, a continuation would be reasonably easy to extend... Only an idiot would break that deal...

Enter the idiot...

Rest of the world is waiting out the Trump Presidency and any reasonable President will take the deal back.

That is exactly what Trump hopes to do. Negotiate a deal that is nothing more than the Obama nuclear deal and of course claim it's a new deal that only he could negotiate. If our allies don't go along with Trump, there will be no new deal and Iran will continuance refining uranium.

Or he’s just trying to cripple Iran financially in the guise of negotiations. Truth be told, I believe there is no negotiating with Iran and it’s up to Israel and the Saudis to take out their nuclear facilities with military action.

Wrong. There are only two ways to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons. The purpose of the Obama nuclear agreement was limit Iran uranium enrichment and give Iran ten years of economic development so they would see no need for nuclear weapons. That ship is long gone. What remains is military action followed by occupation and that means another middle eastern war and years of US occupation, guaranteed to increase international terrorism.

 

[irosie91]

LMAO Those billions were used to support every terrorist outfit out there and Iran's quest for a nuke.

Do you honestly believe the bat shit crazy ayatollah's who run that country give a flying fuck about the citizens??

If you do your are stupider than you appear to be.

Show some
I know conservative fear mongering claims all the money went to support terrorism, but you can’t show it

What we can show was that there was an increase in consumer trade after the Nuclear Deal

Yes, they do care about their people

LMAO If you say so though anyone with a working brain cell knows they used that money to support terrorists all over the world. Its what they do and have done.

If you think they aren't using that money to pursue their nuke then you are to stupid to live.

They don't care about their citizens. If they did they wouldn't run the country like a gulag.

You sure are one stupid fuck.

Show us....it is your accusation

Actually the money went to the people of Iran

have you ever met an Iranian? I even got Iranian relatives--------well, by marriage---HOWEVER I have been well acquainted with Iranians for ------sheeeeehs I is old---for more than 50 years-----from shah to Islamism to ayatoilets -------and onward to the filth Ira is today

My cousin married an Iranian
That must make me an expert

try again------I have worked with and socialized with-Iranians since 1966-------that niece-in-law is not the issue. You are vulgar and stupid

 

[deanrd]

Trump hated Obama so much he trashed the Iran nuclear deal.

Now he’s freaking out.

Calling for attacks and then drawing back from attacks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Trump is like a drunk bull in a China shop. Careening from disaster to disaster and then trying to blame it on with the shop owner for owning so much Crystal.

 

[Claudette]

Trump hated Obama so much he trashed the Iran nuclear deal.

Now he’s freaking out.

Calling for attacks and then drawing back from attacks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Trump is like a drunk bull in a China shop. Careening from disaster to disaster and then trying to blame it on with the shop owner for owning so much Crystal.

Glad he did. The only winner in that "deal" was Iran. They got their billions back to fund terrorism around the world and to pursue their nuke dreams.

Oh and Trump knows exactly what he's doing. Even if a lefty loon like you is to blind to see it.

Carry on dipshit. LOL

 

[The Original Tree]

The rest of the world understood Iran .......but Trump said he knew better

Obama, others warned Trump that pulling out of Iran nuke deal could lead to war

The 80s called and wants their foreign policy back.

Obama has been right about NUTHIN.

You don't violate international law and give a terrorist state a $150 Billion if you are "right about Iran"

Obama could have been impeached on what he did with Iran alone.

The money Obama returned to Iran in the deal was never our money. It was there's. It was money they paid the US for military equipment they never received.

Speaking of International Law, the US violated the terms of the nuclear deal by applying sanctions, which put the US in violation of international law, not Iran. Trump claims that Iran broke the deal by sponsoring terrorizing and developing missiles is completely bogus. The treaty does not address either item.

The fact is Trump violated the terms of the agreement because he didn't like it, the same reason he withdrew the US from the Paris Climate Agreement and Transpacific Partnership. Any country would be foolish to make any agreement with Trump. Even worse, it throws doubt on all US agreements, past, current, or future.

If it was OK for Obama to give a Terrorist State that Money, PLUS INTEREST, then why did he have to Circumvent Congress, Violate International Law and Sanctions, Fly those stacks of Benjamins in the dead of Night to Europe, Convert them to Euros, and then fly the pallets of Euros in to Iran?

It's illegal to wire US Dollars to Iran, and Illegal to give them Physical US Currency. Why is that?

Answer the question.

It's illegal even today.

Why did Obama break the law and get away with it? Why is John Kerry still breaking the law today and getting away with it?

Obama could have been impeached just for what he did with Iran, so why Didn't someone with some Balls, and who cared about International Law, and Treaty Law, Call Obama on his Bullshit and have him Impeached?

Oh, he's Black and The President.

Never mind.

 

[The Original Tree]

Trump hated Obama so much he trashed the Iran nuclear deal.

Now he’s freaking out.

Calling for attacks and then drawing back from attacks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Trump is like a drunk bull in a China shop. Careening from disaster to disaster and then trying to blame it on with the shop owner for owning so much Crystal.

I think Trump hates you personally, so that is why he did it....to drive you Lib Tard Crazy, like you are now.

 

[rightwinger]

In his 2015 speech, Obama said that without an agreement limiting Iran's nuclear program in return for sanctions relief, any U.S. administration would be left with only one option to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon — "another war in the Middle East."

Obama said that Iran — unrestrained by the nuclear accord — would soon be on the threshold of developing an atomic bomb. "Without this deal, Iran will be in a position — however tough our rhetoric may be — to steadily advance its capabilities. Its breakout time, which is already fairly small, could shrink to near zero."

"Does anyone really doubt that the same voices now raised against this deal will be demanding that whoever is president bomb those nuclear facilities?" Obama said.

Russia was helping iran build their nuclear facility while O was pushing fairy tales.

Which nuclear facility?

All their facilities were dismantled, now Trump is letting them start over

 

[Claudette]

Trump hated Obama so much he trashed the Iran nuclear deal.

Now he’s freaking out.

Calling for attacks and then drawing back from attacks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Trump is like a drunk bull in a China shop. Careening from disaster to disaster and then trying to blame it on with the shop owner for owning so much Crystal.

Why would you think Trump hates Obama??

Just more of your wishful thinking just like the Mueller report.

You really are disgusting.

 

[rightwinger]

The rest of the world understood Iran .......but Trump said he knew better

Obama, others warned Trump that pulling out of Iran nuke deal could lead to war

The 80s called and wants their foreign policy back.

Obama has been right about NUTHIN.

You don't violate international law and give a terrorist state a $150 Billion if you are "right about Iran"

Obama could have been impeached on what he did with Iran alone.

The money Obama returned to Iran in the deal was never our money. It was there's. It was money they paid the US for military equipment they never received.

Speaking of International Law, the US violated the terms of the nuclear deal by applying sanctions, which put the US in violation of international law, not Iran. Trump claims that Iran broke the deal by sponsoring terrorizing and developing missiles is completely bogus. The treaty does not address either item.

The fact is Trump violated the terms of the agreement because he didn't like it, the same reason he withdrew the US from the Paris Climate Agreement and Transpacific Partnership. Any country would be foolish to make any agreement with Trump. Even worse, it throws doubt on all US agreements, past, current, or future.

If it was OK for Obama to give a Terrorist State that Money, PLUS INTEREST, then why did he have to Circumvent Congress, Violate International Law and Sanctions, Fly those stacks of Benjamins in the dead of Night to Europe, Convert them to Euros, and then fly the pallets of Euros in to Iran?

It's illegal to wire US Dollars to Iran, and Illegal to give them Physical US Currency. Why is that?

Answer the question.

It's illegal even today.

Why did Obama break the law and get away with it? Why is John Kerry still breaking the law today and getting away with it?

Obama could have been impeached just for what he did with Iran, so why Didn't someone with some Balls, and who cared about International Law, and Treaty Law, Call Obama on his Bullshit and have him Impeached?

Oh, he's Black and The President.

Never mind.

Illegal my ass

Republicans controlled Congress, why didn’t they investigate and prosecute?
Trump has the Justice Dept, why hasn’t he pressed charges?

Why? Because it was perfectly legal

 

[Flopper]

The rest of the world understood Iran .......but Trump said he knew better

Obama, others warned Trump that pulling out of Iran nuke deal could lead to war

The 80s called and wants their foreign policy back.

Obama has been right about NUTHIN.

You don't violate international law and give a terrorist state a $150 Billion if you are "right about Iran"

Obama could have been impeached on what he did with Iran alone.

The money Obama returned to Iran in the deal was never our money. It was there's. It was money they paid the US for military equipment they never received.

Speaking of International Law, the US violated the terms of the nuclear deal by applying sanctions, which put the US in violation of international law, not Iran. Trump claims that Iran broke the deal by sponsoring terrorizing and developing missiles is completely bogus. The treaty does not address either item.

The fact is Trump violated the terms of the agreement because he didn't like it, the same reason he withdrew the US from the Paris Climate Agreement and Transpacific Partnership. Any country would be foolish to make any agreement with Trump. Even worse, it throws doubt on all US agreements, past, current, or future.

Obama’s deal with Iran was not a treaty

A treaty is an agreement between two nations. A treaty as used in the constitution is an international agreement approved by the Senate with 2/3 vote. An executive agreement signed by president is just as valid under international law as one ratified by the Senate. Different countries have different methods of making and approving of agreements. In some nations, approval by the president is all that is needed, in other nations it requires a ratification by a committee or by a parliament or congress. In the US, there are three methods of approval of international agreements.

• An executive agreement signed by the president without approval of the Senate. This is used for routine agreements and renewals of agreements. Presidents sign hundreds of these every year.
• An executive agreement signed by the president with prior approval of the Senate to negotiate an agreement. These agreements usually have a time period of at least 30 days for the Senate to disapprove of the agreement. This method was used by Obama in Iran deal.
• Finally, agreements signed by the president goes to the Senate for approval with a 2/3 vote. NAFTA was approved this way which is the method specified in the constitution.

 

[The Original Tree]

The rest of the world understood Iran .......but Trump said he knew better

Obama, others warned Trump that pulling out of Iran nuke deal could lead to war

The 80s called and wants their foreign policy back.

Obama has been right about NUTHIN.

You don't violate international law and give a terrorist state a $150 Billion if you are "right about Iran"

Obama could have been impeached on what he did with Iran alone.

The money Obama returned to Iran in the deal was never our money. It was there's. It was money they paid the US for military equipment they never received.

Speaking of International Law, the US violated the terms of the nuclear deal by applying sanctions, which put the US in violation of international law, not Iran. Trump claims that Iran broke the deal by sponsoring terrorizing and developing missiles is completely bogus. The treaty does not address either item.

The fact is Trump violated the terms of the agreement because he didn't like it, the same reason he withdrew the US from the Paris Climate Agreement and Transpacific Partnership. Any country would be foolish to make any agreement with Trump. Even worse, it throws doubt on all US agreements, past, current, or future.

If it was OK for Obama to give a Terrorist State that Money, PLUS INTEREST, then why did he have to Circumvent Congress, Violate International Law and Sanctions, Fly those stacks of Benjamins in the dead of Night to Europe, Convert them to Euros, and then fly the pallets of Euros in to Iran?

It's illegal to wire US Dollars to Iran, and Illegal to give them Physical US Currency. Why is that?

Answer the question.

It's illegal even today.

Why did Obama break the law and get away with it? Why is John Kerry still breaking the law today and getting away with it?

Obama could have been impeached just for what he did with Iran, so why Didn't someone with some Balls, and who cared about International Law, and Treaty Law, Call Obama on his Bullshit and have him Impeached?

Oh, he's Black and The President.

Never mind.

Illegal my ass

Republicans controlled Congress, why didn’t they investigate and prosecute?
Trump has the Justice Dept, why hasn’t he pressed charges?

Why? Because it was perfectly legal

Because Black Lives Matter.

And The GOP could not afford to take on Obama and get Branded Bigots for No Good Reason.

You don't give a dirty opponent like The Dem Nazi Party a chance to play The Race card if you can help it.

That's how he got away with so much.

If he was a White Guy D or R, he would have been impeached in his first term.

 

[Flopper]

The rest of the world understood Iran .......but Trump said he knew better

Obama, others warned Trump that pulling out of Iran nuke deal could lead to war

The 80s called and wants their foreign policy back.

Obama has been right about NUTHIN.

You don't violate international law and give a terrorist state a $150 Billion if you are "right about Iran"

Obama could have been impeached on what he did with Iran alone.

The money Obama returned to Iran in the deal was never our money. It was there's. It was money they paid the US for military equipment they never received.

Speaking of International Law, the US violated the terms of the nuclear deal by applying sanctions, which put the US in violation of international law, not Iran. Trump claims that Iran broke the deal by sponsoring terrorizing and developing missiles is completely bogus. The treaty does not address either item.

The fact is Trump violated the terms of the agreement because he didn't like it, the same reason he withdrew the US from the Paris Climate Agreement and Transpacific Partnership. Any country would be foolish to make any agreement with Trump. Even worse, it throws doubt on all US agreements, past, current, or future.

If it was OK for Obama to give a Terrorist State that Money, PLUS INTEREST, then why did he have to Circumvent Congress, Violate International Law and Sanctions, Fly those stacks of Benjamins in the dead of Night to Europe, Convert them to Euros, and then fly the pallets of Euros in to Iran?

It's illegal to wire US Dollars to Iran, and Illegal to give them Physical US Currency. Why is that?

Answer the question.

It's illegal even today.

Why did Obama break the law and get away with it? Why is John Kerry still breaking the law today and getting away with it?

Obama could have been impeached just for what he did with Iran, so why Didn't someone with some Balls, and who cared about International Law, and Treaty Law, Call Obama on his Bullshit and have him Impeached?

Oh, he's Black and The President.

Never mind.

First of all, former President Barack Obama didn’t give “150 billion in cash” to Iran.

The nuclear agreement included China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union, so Obama didn’t carry out any part of it on his own. The deal did lift some sanctions, which lifted a freeze on Iran’s assets that were held largely in foreign, not U.S., banks. And, to be clear, the money that was unfrozen belonged to Iran. It had only been made inaccessible by sanctions aimed at crippling the country’s nuclear program.

Secondly, $150 billion is a high-end estimate of the total that was freed up after some sanctions were lifted. U.S. Treasury Department estimates put the number at about $50 billion in “usable liquid assets,” according to 2015 testimony from Adam Szubin, acting under secretary of treasury for terrorism and financial intelligence.

Lastly, most of what's in your post is superstition and just plain bogus information form the Trump campaign repeated so many times that it is assumed to true.
Obama Didn't Give Iran '150 Billion in Cash' - FactCheck.org

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Oh and you don't think Iran used those billions Barry and Kerry unfroze to continue to fund every terrorist outfit out here??

No, goober. The highest estimates are that they spend $1 billion annually on that, which was also the case before we returned the money. We returned $150 billion to them. Would you like to borrow my abacus, professor?

 

[rightwinger]

The rest of the world understood Iran .......but Trump said he knew better

Obama, others warned Trump that pulling out of Iran nuke deal could lead to war

The 80s called and wants their foreign policy back.

Obama has been right about NUTHIN.

You don't violate international law and give a terrorist state a $150 Billion if you are "right about Iran"

Obama could have been impeached on what he did with Iran alone.

The money Obama returned to Iran in the deal was never our money. It was there's. It was money they paid the US for military equipment they never received.

Speaking of International Law, the US violated the terms of the nuclear deal by applying sanctions, which put the US in violation of international law, not Iran. Trump claims that Iran broke the deal by sponsoring terrorizing and developing missiles is completely bogus. The treaty does not address either item.

The fact is Trump violated the terms of the agreement because he didn't like it, the same reason he withdrew the US from the Paris Climate Agreement and Transpacific Partnership. Any country would be foolish to make any agreement with Trump. Even worse, it throws doubt on all US agreements, past, current, or future.

If it was OK for Obama to give a Terrorist State that Money, PLUS INTEREST, then why did he have to Circumvent Congress, Violate International Law and Sanctions, Fly those stacks of Benjamins in the dead of Night to Europe, Convert them to Euros, and then fly the pallets of Euros in to Iran?

It's illegal to wire US Dollars to Iran, and Illegal to give them Physical US Currency. Why is that?

Answer the question.

It's illegal even today.

Why did Obama break the law and get away with it? Why is John Kerry still breaking the law today and getting away with it?

Obama could have been impeached just for what he did with Iran, so why Didn't someone with some Balls, and who cared about International Law, and Treaty Law, Call Obama on his Bullshit and have him Impeached?

Oh, he's Black and The President.

Never mind.

Illegal my ass

Republicans controlled Congress, why didn’t they investigate and prosecute?
Trump has the Justice Dept, why hasn’t he pressed charges?

Why? Because it was perfectly legal

Because Black Lives Matter.

And The GOP could not afford to take on Obama and get Branded Bigots for No Good Reason.

You don't give a dirty opponent like The Dem Nazi Party a chance to play The Race card if you can help it.

That's how he got away with so much.

If he was a White Guy D or R, he would have been impeached in his first term.

Oh please..

Are you claiming Trump is afraid to prosecute Obama?