OBAMA: Not Renting To Criminals Is Racist

[James Moore]

Obama: Not Renting to Criminals is Racist

Worst. President. Ever.

B. Hussein's recent commutations are just more pokes in the eyes from him to this country - setting criminals, lots of them, free into communities to cause more problems to the Americans he transparently hates (the only thing he and this administration have been transparent about); and, he hates, and has contempt for, all of us, except blacks, and he hasn't done much of anything for them either except to excuse the burning and pillaging of their own communities by those blacks who take the law into their own hands rather than having the situations they are unhappy with adjudicated in courts of law. His goal has always been to take America down, brick by brick, dollar by dollar, citizen by citizen, racial unrest by racial unrest, until we are a shadow of our former strong country. Pretty hypocritical of him to let the criminals with firearms convictions out of prison early - I thought he and all libs don't like people to use those things - oh, except when people with guns are guarding him. We will survive this lying America-hater because we are Americans, but it will take quite a few generations to become whole again because of him. His permanent legacy, however, will be that he tried, but failed to ruin us and make us a third-world country. We're better than that, and he isn't.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Criminals are not a race....the man is too fucking stupid to live

 

[g5000]

Rather than get your "news" through a propaganda outlet, let's go to the source: http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/documents/huddoc?id=HUD_OGCGuidAppFHAStandCR.pdf

Across the United States, African Americans and Hispanics are arrested, convicted and incarcerated at rates disproportionate to their share of the general population.8 Consequently, criminal records-based barriers to housing are likely to have a disproportionate impact on minority home seekers.

Now let's see if you can discuss the merits or weaknesses of this argument on your own two feet.

 

[g5000]

The HUD letter states blacks and Hispanics are imprisoned in numbers out of proportion to their population demographic.

"Across all age groups, the imprisonment rates for African American males is almost six times greater than for White males, and for Hispanic males, it is over twice that for non-Hispanic White males."

Therefore, they reason, if criminal history is used as a barrier to housing, then blacks and Hispanics will be shut out in disproportionate numbers as a result of the ripple effect of incarceration statistics. Which means criminal history barriers will have a racial effect.

And they are correct. This is undeniable.

But is it a racist effect?

If blacks and Hispanics commit more crimes than whites, then of course there will be more of them in jail. So the question is, why should we take away the consequences of committing a crime?

But what if a black is more likely to be sent to prison than a white who has committed the same crime? Then America has a serious problem, yes?

However, the HUD memorandum does not make this argument. It does not even imply this.

If our criminal justice system is truly blind, we have one question. If our criminal justice system is racist, we have an entirely different question.


In the former, we must ask ourselves if the consequences we have laid on crime are too severe. Do they serve a counterproductive purpose which encourages recidivism?

Interestingly, the HUD memorandum doesn't make this argument, either!

In the latter, we must ask if there is a racial bias against blacks and Hispanics in our criminal justice system. A bias which has wide ranging ripple effects, such as not being able to find housing after paying one's unfair debt to society.

 

[Meathead]

They can all live together. That's why we have ghettos.

 

[Militants]

Crime are bad for all human even I tested 3 weed before how are stupid against my Swedish friends how never testing drugs. I tell to mother then we loses our dog when he not justifice to me with under life I kill our best friend in family how are our dog. And polices come to home and drive me to mental houses and in summer in my home visit a summer job and wasn't good with hot summer sun. 30-35 celsius warm wind.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Rather than get your "news" through a propaganda outlet, let's go to the source: http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/documents/huddoc?id=HUD_OGCGuidAppFHAStandCR.pdf

Across the United States, African Americans and Hispanics are arrested, convicted and incarcerated at rates disproportionate to their share of the general population.8 Consequently, criminal records-based barriers to housing are likely to have a disproportionate impact on minority home seekers.

Now let's see if you can discuss the merits or weaknesses of this argument on your own two feet.

So because a certain group of people commit MORE crime per capita than another group we should look the other way, we should ignore the crime?

 

[g5000]

Rather than get your "news" through a propaganda outlet, let's go to the source: http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/documents/huddoc?id=HUD_OGCGuidAppFHAStandCR.pdf

Across the United States, African Americans and Hispanics are arrested, convicted and incarcerated at rates disproportionate to their share of the general population.8 Consequently, criminal records-based barriers to housing are likely to have a disproportionate impact on minority home seekers.

Now let's see if you can discuss the merits or weaknesses of this argument on your own two feet.

So because a certain group of people commit MORE crime per capita than another group we should look the other way, we should ignore the crime?

See post 4.

 

[Iceweasel]

The HUD letter states blacks and Hispanics are imprisoned in numbers out of proportion to their population demographic.

"Across all age groups, the imprisonment rates for African American males is almost six times greater than for White males, and for Hispanic males, it is over twice that for non-Hispanic White males."

Therefore, they reason, if criminal history is used as a barrier to housing, then blacks and Hispanics will be shut out in disproportionate numbers as a result of the ripple effect of incarceration statistics. Which means criminal history barriers will have a racial effect.

And they are correct. This is undeniable.

But is it a racist effect?

If blacks and Hispanics commit more crimes than whites, then of course there will be more of them in jail. So the question is, why should we take away the consequences of committing a crime?

But what if a black is more likely to be sent to prison than a white who has committed the same crime? Then America has a serious problem, yes?

However, the HUD memorandum does not make this argument. It does not even imply this.

If our criminal justice system is truly blind, we have one question. If our criminal justice system is racist, we have an entirely different question.


In the former, we must ask ourselves if the consequences we have laid on crime are too severe. Do they serve a counterproductive purpose which encourages recidivism?

Interestingly, the HUD memorandum doesn't make this argument, either!

In the latter, we must ask if there is a racial bias against blacks and Hispanics in our criminal justice system. A bias which has wide ranging ripple effects, such as not being able to find housing after paying one's unfair debt to society.

Bullshit. Crime is disproportionately committed by blacks per capita. Even if you were right this would be a bizarre way to solve it. The fact is a felon is a felon regardless of race. Someone will get raped or killed so liberals can feel better about themselves. It's insanity.

 

[Little-Acorn]

But what if a black is more likely to be sent to prison than a white who has committed the same crime?

Did then black person commit the crime for which he got sent to jail?

And did the white person commit the same crime, but not get sent to jail?

I'd say the problem is not too many black people in jail. It's too few white people in jail.

8 years of the Obama justice department, and even longer with liberals running the cities with the highest crime rates and the most people in jail.

And the courts are still racist? Maybe even more than they used to be? Is that the argument?

Sounds like yet another reason to throw liberals out of office and get some people (conservatives) in there who are not as racist... according to what board liberals themselves are complaining about.