Obama Is Accused of Implying Illegal Aliens Can Vote

[Redfish]

Successful businessman vs corrupt politician-----------the choice is clear and America deserves what it votes for.

I have no love for Hillary Clinton. I could easily vote for a qualified and sane Republican candidate, but under no circumstances would I vote for a man who seems emotionally immature to the point of being unstable. And with his propensity of embracing the alt-right, Trump gives every indication of becoming a cult of personality fascist leader who is willing to say anything when it feeds his ego which may very well be driven by deep insecurities.

So, I voted for Clinton and have no problem if she's only a one term president.

Also keep in mind that that the accusations against her are merely allegations at this point.

Allegations????? WTF, did you listen to Comey's testimony? They are not allegations, they are facts. Just because DOJ and FBI have been corrupted does not make her innocent.

You voted for a criminal, you deserve what she does to you and your family's future.

A conviction is required to accurately label someone as a criminal. I mean, you HAVE heard of the presumption of innocence unless or until a jury returns a guilty verdict, haven't you?

Yes, that's true. Why do you think the Clintons should be held above the law when the evidence against them is overwhelming? Comey and Lynch let them off the hook for political reasons, is that how you think our legal system should work? One set of laws for you and me and another for the political elites?

Well to be honest, it's always been that way. If your concept is that all they had to do was get by two individuals to walk, that seems a bit naive.

those two individuals called the shots, those two had the power to let them slip by---and they did.

 

[Redfish]

Last night I was talking to a guy I know who had been watching this story on Alex Jones' Infowars website. I was dismayed since I'm familiar with Jones' rep, and I was sure it was just another BS story. Admittedly, Rodriguez comment/opinion while asking the question and Obama's less than artful response didn't help matters at all. However, I noticed that Rodriguez name did not appear in the story. Consequently, I had to use a search engine to find who she was at which point I was able to determine that she is an American. By not including her name, Jones was able to imply that perhaps she was NOT a citizen, thereby making it appear that she was planning on voting even though she was not a citizen.

The end result is more than a little discouraging since the new information did absolutely nothing to sway the guy's opinion.

The next thing I knew, he was bring up Larry Nichols of The Clinton Chronicles fame. Again, I googled his name at which point I found out that he was a former employee of the gov't in Arkansas in 1988 until he was fired the same year he was hired for making over 600 calls to people both in this country and overseas about supporting the Contras, and he had done so by charging the calls to his office. When he was asked for an explanation, he lied and was subsequently (and understandably) fired. That's when I said that it certainly appeared as if Mr. Nichols had a personal grudge against Clinton. What was the guy's response? He disputed the Wikipedia story as being false because he claimed it was run or controlled (untrue) by the gov't.

It's all very disheartening, frankly. In the past, crackpots would stand on street corners with megaphones or slip poorly written and badly copied offset print copies of these kind of tracks under strangers' windshield wipers, and most of the time they would be discarded. Now, in the age of the WWW, any nut case can start a website, spread nonsense, and probably actually make a good living if and when the site gets enough traffic and traction. Sadly, I believe that Trump has lent his support to Infowars which only serves to lend wholly undeserved credibility to the website just because a US presidential candidate of a major party gave it a shout out.

What's next? Will Trump embrace miracle herbal cures? I wouldn't be surprised if he did since his Trump University was little more than a get rich quick scheme which used Trump's name to preyed upon the naiveté of trusting people and then fleece them out of most if not all of their life savings while giving them nothing of any real value in the process. No wonder Trump gave Alex Jones a shout out. It's the admiration of one huckster for another huckster.

Agreed. Trump has done nothing his entire life but market his own name/"brand". Amazing how far he's gotten on so very, very little. And that's frightfully telling about the collective intelligence, both emotional and cognitive, of swaths of this society.

and Hillary's entire life has been corrupt politics. do you really see that as better?

I'm pretty sure that Trump is going to be found guilty of running a scam regarding Trump University. He's also probably going to face some kind of indictment regarding the Trump Foundation due to the fact that he was using foundation money to pay off personal debt obligations (with money contributed by others) and further using foundation money to buy items that later were sent to his hotels.

Oh, I see. Allegations apply to Trump but not to Clinton. Duh, ok

How about we go more slowly for the impaired, shall we?

" ... going to be found guilty of ... "


" ... face some kind of indictment regarding ... "

Did that help? See, if those developments were to occur, no mere "Allegations", get it now?

You said "is going" that presumes guilt. English grammar, 3rd grade.

 

[Redfish]

Only the credulous useful low info tools believe the OP.

Last night I was talking to a guy I know who had been watching this story on Alex Jones' Infowars website. I was dismayed since I'm familiar with Jones' rep, and I was sure it was just another BS story. Admittedly, Rodriguez comment/opinion while asking the question and Obama's less than artful response didn't help matters at all. However, I noticed that Rodriguez name did not appear in the story. Consequently, I had to use a search engine to find who she was at which point I was able to determine that she is an American. By not including her name, Jones was able to imply that perhaps she was NOT a citizen, thereby making it appear that she was planning on voting even though she was not a citizen.

The end result is more than a little discouraging since the new information did absolutely nothing to sway the guy's opinion.

The next thing I knew, he was bring up Larry Nichols of The Clinton Chronicles fame. Again, I googled his name at which point I found out that he was a former employee of the gov't in Arkansas in 1988 until he was fired the same year he was hired for making over 600 calls to people both in this country and overseas about supporting the Contras, and he had done so by charging the calls to his office. When he was asked for an explanation, he lied and was subsequently (and understandably) fired. That's when I said that it certainly appeared as if Mr. Nichols had a personal grudge against Clinton. What was the guy's response? He disputed the Wikipedia story as being false because he claimed it was run or controlled (untrue) by the gov't.

It's all very disheartening, frankly. In the past, crackpots would stand on street corners with megaphones or slip poorly written and badly copied offset print copies of these kind of tracks under strangers' windshield wipers, and most of the time they would be discarded. Now, in the age of the WWW, any nut case can start a website, spread nonsense, and probably actually make a good living if and when the site gets enough traffic and traction. Sadly, I believe that Trump has lent his support to Infowars which only serves to lend wholly undeserved credibility to the website just because a US presidential candidate of a major party gave it a shout out.

What's next? Will Trump embrace miracle herbal cures? I wouldn't be surprised if he did since his Trump University was little more than a get rich quick scheme which used Trump's name to preyed upon the naiveté of trusting people and then fleece them out of most if not all of their life savings while giving them nothing of any real value in the process. No wonder Trump gave Alex Jones a shout out. It's the admiration of one huckster for another huckster.

Agreed. Trump has done nothing his entire life but market his own name/"brand". Amazing how far he's gotten on so very, very little. And that's frightfully telling about the collective intelligence, both emotional and cognitive, of swaths of this society.

and Hillary's entire life has been corrupt politics. do you really see that as better?

I see them as equivalent, and your political system as based upon corruption, how 'bout you.

we disagree. I see a lifetime corrupt politician as much worse.

 

[Mustang]

Only the credulous useful low info tools believe the OP.

Last night I was talking to a guy I know who had been watching this story on Alex Jones' Infowars website. I was dismayed since I'm familiar with Jones' rep, and I was sure it was just another BS story. Admittedly, Rodriguez comment/opinion while asking the question and Obama's less than artful response didn't help matters at all. However, I noticed that Rodriguez name did not appear in the story. Consequently, I had to use a search engine to find who she was at which point I was able to determine that she is an American. By not including her name, Jones was able to imply that perhaps she was NOT a citizen, thereby making it appear that she was planning on voting even though she was not a citizen.

The end result is more than a little discouraging since the new information did absolutely nothing to sway the guy's opinion.

The next thing I knew, he was bring up Larry Nichols of The Clinton Chronicles fame. Again, I googled his name at which point I found out that he was a former employee of the gov't in Arkansas in 1988 until he was fired the same year he was hired for making over 600 calls to people both in this country and overseas about supporting the Contras, and he had done so by charging the calls to his office. When he was asked for an explanation, he lied and was subsequently (and understandably) fired. That's when I said that it certainly appeared as if Mr. Nichols had a personal grudge against Clinton. What was the guy's response? He disputed the Wikipedia story as being false because he claimed it was run or controlled (untrue) by the gov't.

It's all very disheartening, frankly. In the past, crackpots would stand on street corners with megaphones or slip poorly written and badly copied offset print copies of these kind of tracks under strangers' windshield wipers, and most of the time they would be discarded. Now, in the age of the WWW, any nut case can start a website, spread nonsense, and probably actually make a good living if and when the site gets enough traffic and traction. Sadly, I believe that Trump has lent his support to Infowars which only serves to lend wholly undeserved credibility to the website just because a US presidential candidate of a major party gave it a shout out.

What's next? Will Trump embrace miracle herbal cures? I wouldn't be surprised if he did since his Trump University was little more than a get rich quick scheme which used Trump's name to preyed upon the naiveté of trusting people and then fleece them out of most if not all of their life savings while giving them nothing of any real value in the process. No wonder Trump gave Alex Jones a shout out. It's the admiration of one huckster for another huckster.

Agreed. Trump has done nothing his entire life but market his own name/"brand". Amazing how far he's gotten on so very, very little. And that's frightfully telling about the collective intelligence, both emotional and cognitive, of swaths of this society.

and Hillary's entire life has been corrupt politics. do you really see that as better?

I see them as equivalent, and your political system as based upon corruption, how 'bout you.

we disagree. I see a lifetime corrupt politician as much worse.

Well, the way the system is set up now with most, if not ALL, politicians finding it necessary to go hat in hand to big money donors in order to fund their campaigns, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that there's an implied quid pro quo which trades the financial support of donors for the support of favorable legislation by legislators for the benefit of the special interest campaign contributions. Getting that money out of the electoral process would be the best way to get legislators to vote on issues with the benefit of Americans in general and America as a whole as their primary guiding principle.

Regardless, I see an ignorant fascist demagogue like Trump as being far more destructive to America and the US Constitution when compared to an allegedly corrupt politician who is only one of many politicians in DC whose loyalties are divided or questionable.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Only the credulous useful low info tools believe the OP.

Last night I was talking to a guy I know who had been watching this story on Alex Jones' Infowars website. I was dismayed since I'm familiar with Jones' rep, and I was sure it was just another BS story. Admittedly, Rodriguez comment/opinion while asking the question and Obama's less than artful response didn't help matters at all. However, I noticed that Rodriguez name did not appear in the story. Consequently, I had to use a search engine to find who she was at which point I was able to determine that she is an American. By not including her name, Jones was able to imply that perhaps she was NOT a citizen, thereby making it appear that she was planning on voting even though she was not a citizen.

The end result is more than a little discouraging since the new information did absolutely nothing to sway the guy's opinion.

The next thing I knew, he was bring up Larry Nichols of The Clinton Chronicles fame. Again, I googled his name at which point I found out that he was a former employee of the gov't in Arkansas in 1988 until he was fired the same year he was hired for making over 600 calls to people both in this country and overseas about supporting the Contras, and he had done so by charging the calls to his office. When he was asked for an explanation, he lied and was subsequently (and understandably) fired. That's when I said that it certainly appeared as if Mr. Nichols had a personal grudge against Clinton. What was the guy's response? He disputed the Wikipedia story as being false because he claimed it was run or controlled (untrue) by the gov't.

It's all very disheartening, frankly. In the past, crackpots would stand on street corners with megaphones or slip poorly written and badly copied offset print copies of these kind of tracks under strangers' windshield wipers, and most of the time they would be discarded. Now, in the age of the WWW, any nut case can start a website, spread nonsense, and probably actually make a good living if and when the site gets enough traffic and traction. Sadly, I believe that Trump has lent his support to Infowars which only serves to lend wholly undeserved credibility to the website just because a US presidential candidate of a major party gave it a shout out.

What's next? Will Trump embrace miracle herbal cures? I wouldn't be surprised if he did since his Trump University was little more than a get rich quick scheme which used Trump's name to preyed upon the naiveté of trusting people and then fleece them out of most if not all of their life savings while giving them nothing of any real value in the process. No wonder Trump gave Alex Jones a shout out. It's the admiration of one huckster for another huckster.

Agreed. Trump has done nothing his entire life but market his own name/"brand". Amazing how far he's gotten on so very, very little. And that's frightfully telling about the collective intelligence, both emotional and cognitive, of swaths of this society.

and Hillary's entire life has been corrupt politics. do you really see that as better?

I see them as equivalent, and your political system as based upon corruption, how 'bout you.

we disagree. I see a lifetime corrupt politician as much worse.

Ok, we disagree.

 

[miketx]

To my mind, that's really outraging. Dirty politicians will do everything to deprive us of building our destiny.

President Obama is under fire after allegedly alluding that illegal aliens can vote in the general election. Just days prior to Election Day, Obama gave an interview to millennial actress Gina Rodriguez and was asked a question about “Dreamers” and “undocumented citizens” casting votes and then being deported.

To some, his answer doesn't make it clear that neither Dreamers, illegal aliens who were granted amnesty by President Obama, nor illegal aliens, who are legally citizens of foreign nations, can lawfully vote in U.S. federal elections. In fact, to some, it seems he says they can vote without any fear of repercussions such as deportation.

The following is the question posed, along with the answer he gave:

Gina Rodriguez: “Many of the Millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens, and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country, are fearful of voting. So if I vote will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?”

President Obama: “Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote you are a citizen yourself and there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential.”


Check the source if you want to see the video. Sorry, I'm lazy to insert it)) Maybe, you don't even need this video, who knows.

Allegedly? I heard the pos with my own ears.

 

[Fenton Lum]

To my mind, that's really outraging. Dirty politicians will do everything to deprive us of building our destiny.

President Obama is under fire after allegedly alluding that illegal aliens can vote in the general election. Just days prior to Election Day, Obama gave an interview to millennial actress Gina Rodriguez and was asked a question about “Dreamers” and “undocumented citizens” casting votes and then being deported.

To some, his answer doesn't make it clear that neither Dreamers, illegal aliens who were granted amnesty by President Obama, nor illegal aliens, who are legally citizens of foreign nations, can lawfully vote in U.S. federal elections. In fact, to some, it seems he says they can vote without any fear of repercussions such as deportation.

The following is the question posed, along with the answer he gave:

Gina Rodriguez: “Many of the Millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens, and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country, are fearful of voting. So if I vote will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?”

President Obama: “Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote you are a citizen yourself and there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential.”


Check the source if you want to see the video. Sorry, I'm lazy to insert it)) Maybe, you don't even need this video, who knows.

Allegedly? I heard the pos with my own ears.

You must be traumatized beyond description.

 

[miketx]

To my mind, that's really outraging. Dirty politicians will do everything to deprive us of building our destiny.

President Obama is under fire after allegedly alluding that illegal aliens can vote in the general election. Just days prior to Election Day, Obama gave an interview to millennial actress Gina Rodriguez and was asked a question about “Dreamers” and “undocumented citizens” casting votes and then being deported.

To some, his answer doesn't make it clear that neither Dreamers, illegal aliens who were granted amnesty by President Obama, nor illegal aliens, who are legally citizens of foreign nations, can lawfully vote in U.S. federal elections. In fact, to some, it seems he says they can vote without any fear of repercussions such as deportation.

The following is the question posed, along with the answer he gave:

Gina Rodriguez: “Many of the Millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens, and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country, are fearful of voting. So if I vote will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?”

President Obama: “Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote you are a citizen yourself and there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential.”


Check the source if you want to see the video. Sorry, I'm lazy to insert it)) Maybe, you don't even need this video, who knows.

Allegedly? I heard the pos with my own ears.

You must be traumatized beyond description.

It takes more then a lying pos to traumatize me. Try again.

 

[Fenton Lum]

To my mind, that's really outraging. Dirty politicians will do everything to deprive us of building our destiny.

President Obama is under fire after allegedly alluding that illegal aliens can vote in the general election. Just days prior to Election Day, Obama gave an interview to millennial actress Gina Rodriguez and was asked a question about “Dreamers” and “undocumented citizens” casting votes and then being deported.

To some, his answer doesn't make it clear that neither Dreamers, illegal aliens who were granted amnesty by President Obama, nor illegal aliens, who are legally citizens of foreign nations, can lawfully vote in U.S. federal elections. In fact, to some, it seems he says they can vote without any fear of repercussions such as deportation.

The following is the question posed, along with the answer he gave:

Gina Rodriguez: “Many of the Millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens, and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country, are fearful of voting. So if I vote will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?”

President Obama: “Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote you are a citizen yourself and there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential.”


Check the source if you want to see the video. Sorry, I'm lazy to insert it)) Maybe, you don't even need this video, who knows.

Allegedly? I heard the pos with my own ears.

You must be traumatized beyond description.

It takes more then a lying pos to traumatize me. Try again.

Whew, good, what a relief.

 

[LaDexter]

an allegedly corrupt politician

Wow.

Just about every Dem I know admits Hillary is the most corrupt nominee in memory. They actually paid attention to things like Whitewater, Castle Grande, cattle futures, her BS excuse for voting for the Iraq war etc.

Hillary isn't just corrupt. She is completely devoid of any patriotism or compassion. She will start a war with Iran because she will get a lot of money to do so, and that's all she's ever cared about.

 

[Fenton Lum]

an allegedly corrupt politician

Wow.

Just about every Dem I know admits Hillary is the most corrupt nominee in memory. They actually paid attention to things like Whitewater, Castle Grande, cattle futures, her BS excuse for voting for the Iraq war etc.

Hillary isn't just corrupt. She is completely devoid of any patriotism or compassion. She will start a war with Iran because she will get a lot of money to do so, and that's all she's ever cared about.

Your system is corrupt, so yeah, all the players are, Trump as well. Please attempt to locate your honest drives and urges for supporting him. You don't have to reveal them to anyone, but you should understand what motivates you on some level.

 

[longknife]

To my mind, that's really outraging. Dirty politicians will do everything to deprive us of building our destiny.

President Obama is under fire after allegedly alluding that illegal aliens can vote in the general election. Just days prior to Election Day, Obama gave an interview to millennial actress Gina Rodriguez and was asked a question about “Dreamers” and “undocumented citizens” casting votes and then being deported.

To some, his answer doesn't make it clear that neither Dreamers, illegal aliens who were granted amnesty by President Obama, nor illegal aliens, who are legally citizens of foreign nations, can lawfully vote in U.S. federal elections. In fact, to some, it seems he says they can vote without any fear of repercussions such as deportation.

The following is the question posed, along with the answer he gave:

Gina Rodriguez: “Many of the Millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens, and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country, are fearful of voting. So if I vote will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?”

President Obama: “Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote you are a citizen yourself and there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential.”


Check the source if you want to see the video. Sorry, I'm lazy to insert it)) Maybe, you don't even need this video, who knows.

What more did you expect?

 

[miketx]

To my mind, that's really outraging. Dirty politicians will do everything to deprive us of building our destiny.

President Obama is under fire after allegedly alluding that illegal aliens can vote in the general election. Just days prior to Election Day, Obama gave an interview to millennial actress Gina Rodriguez and was asked a question about “Dreamers” and “undocumented citizens” casting votes and then being deported.

To some, his answer doesn't make it clear that neither Dreamers, illegal aliens who were granted amnesty by President Obama, nor illegal aliens, who are legally citizens of foreign nations, can lawfully vote in U.S. federal elections. In fact, to some, it seems he says they can vote without any fear of repercussions such as deportation.

The following is the question posed, along with the answer he gave:

Gina Rodriguez: “Many of the Millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens, and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country, are fearful of voting. So if I vote will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?”

President Obama: “Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote you are a citizen yourself and there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential.”


Check the source if you want to see the video. Sorry, I'm lazy to insert it)) Maybe, you don't even need this video, who knows.

Allegedly? I heard the pos with my own ears.

You must be traumatized beyond description.

It takes more then a lying pos to traumatize me. Try again.

Whew, good, what a relief.

Change your kotex.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Here, prisonmike, this will help you: Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Redfish]

an allegedly corrupt politician

Wow.

Just about every Dem I know admits Hillary is the most corrupt nominee in memory. They actually paid attention to things like Whitewater, Castle Grande, cattle futures, her BS excuse for voting for the Iraq war etc.

Hillary isn't just corrupt. She is completely devoid of any patriotism or compassion. She will start a war with Iran because she will get a lot of money to do so, and that's all she's ever cared about.

Your system is corrupt, so yeah, all the players are, Trump as well. Please attempt to locate your honest drives and urges for supporting him. You don't have to reveal them to anyone, but you should understand what motivates you on some level.

its very simple-------------keep the Clintons out of any position of authority. Nothing else matters in this election.

 

[Fenton Lum]

an allegedly corrupt politician

Wow.

Just about every Dem I know admits Hillary is the most corrupt nominee in memory. They actually paid attention to things like Whitewater, Castle Grande, cattle futures, her BS excuse for voting for the Iraq war etc.

Hillary isn't just corrupt. She is completely devoid of any patriotism or compassion. She will start a war with Iran because she will get a lot of money to do so, and that's all she's ever cared about.

Your system is corrupt, so yeah, all the players are, Trump as well. Please attempt to locate your honest drives and urges for supporting him. You don't have to reveal them to anyone, but you should understand what motivates you on some level.

its very simple-------------keep the Clintons out of any position of authority. Nothing else matters in this election.

Well then you know what to do, do it. And accept what you chose, no change at all.