Obama Deflects Responsibility- Obama: U.s. Intelligence Underestimated Militants In Syria - Cbs

[mudwhistle]

I miss the daze when righties blamed intelligence for the president's failures.

"It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong." - George Bush, 2005​

Wow, you sure showed us.

I think there's a difference between not finding enough WMDs to make you folks happy and not knowing that ISIS was a threat.

Yes, there is a difference ... when Bush and the GOP blamed intelligence for their failures, rightards ate it up and regurgitated it 24/7 as a feasible excuse. The difference this time around is that rightards are rejecting that excuse. The reason for this difference? The political party of the president.

And, the fact we have not had such an incompetent failure as Obama ever as POTUS, makes the difference unarguably accurate

-Geaux

When it comes to incompetence, Obama comes nowhere near Bush. Far more Americans have died from terrorism while Bush was president than under Obama.

Doubtful. You just aren't hearing about it 24/7 like before. Our kids are still dying in Afghanistan, and people are now getting their heads cut off in Oklahoma. Then there's the Ft Hood shootings you're forgetting.

 

[Faun]

But how would Obama even know? Does not sound like he even wants to know what is going on in the world.
A new Government Accountability Institute (GAI) report reveals that President Barack Obama has attended only 42.1% of his daily intelligence briefings (known officially as the Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB) in the 2,079 days of his presidency through September 29, 2014.
Report Obama Has Missed over Half His Second-Term Daily Intel Briefings

Sure, uh-huh.

GAI = more disgruntled Conservatives trying to gain credibility where none exists through an impressive sounding name like the Government Accountability Institute .

 

[Faun]

No matter how fucked up Obama is Democrats will still say that WMDs trumps everything.



They figure that lame excuse will fly forever.

Yeah, that "lame" excuse just resulted in a war which cost about 40,000 American casualties and trillions of dollars. You know, nothing worth anything to Conservatives.

Oh, and ironically, that "lame" excuse led to the creation of ISIS.

Try 4000.

The only reason they matter is because it was Bush.
Obama has caused the deaths of at least that many in the last few months because he didn't want to do his job.

Try, you are an imbecile ...

USCasualtiesByState

 

[mudwhistle]

No matter how fucked up Obama is Democrats will still say that WMDs trumps everything.



They figure that lame excuse will fly forever.

Yeah, that "lame" excuse just resulted in a war which cost about 40,000 American casualties and trillions of dollars. You know, nothing worth anything to Conservatives.

Oh, and ironically, that "lame" excuse led to the creation of ISIS.

Try 4000.

The only reason they matter is because it was Bush.
Obama has caused the deaths of at least that many in the last few months because he didn't want to do his job.

Try, you are an imbecile ...

USCasualtiesByState

Fuck you dickwad. Keep it civil or STFU.

 

[Faun]

Wow, you sure showed us.

I think there's a difference between not finding enough WMDs to make you folks happy and not knowing that ISIS was a threat.

Yes, there is a difference ... when Bush and the GOP blamed intelligence for their failures, rightards ate it up and regurgitated it 24/7 as a feasible excuse. The difference this time around is that rightards are rejecting that excuse. The reason for this difference? The political party of the president.

And, the fact we have not had such an incompetent failure as Obama ever as POTUS, makes the difference unarguably accurate

-Geaux

When it comes to incompetence, Obama comes nowhere near Bush. Far more Americans have died from terrorism while Bush was president than under Obama.

Doubtful. You just aren't hearing about it 24/7 like before. Our kids are still dying in Afghanistan, and people are now getting their heads cut off in Oklahoma. Then there's the Ft Hood shootings you're forgetting.

I'm not forgetting any of it. Some 40,000 casualties just from the Iraq war alone. An additional 3,000 just on 9.11 alone. Obama can't even scratch the surface of Bush's incompetence.

 

[mudwhistle]

No matter how fucked up Obama is Democrats will still say that WMDs trumps everything.



They figure that lame excuse will fly forever.

Yeah, that "lame" excuse just resulted in a war which cost about 40,000 American casualties and trillions of dollars. You know, nothing worth anything to Conservatives.

Oh, and ironically, that "lame" excuse led to the creation of ISIS.

Try 4000.

The only reason they matter is because it was Bush.
Obama has caused the deaths of at least that many in the last few months because he didn't want to do his job.

Try, you are an imbecile ...

USCasualtiesByState

Oh, you want to count wounded the same as dead. That must be like, saved or created jobs. You pad your stats with incomplete statistics. Many of those wounded are able to lead productive lives.

 

[Faun]

No matter how fucked up Obama is Democrats will still say that WMDs trumps everything.



They figure that lame excuse will fly forever.

Yeah, that "lame" excuse just resulted in a war which cost about 40,000 American casualties and trillions of dollars. You know, nothing worth anything to Conservatives.

Oh, and ironically, that "lame" excuse led to the creation of ISIS.

Try 4000.

The only reason they matter is because it was Bush.
Obama has caused the deaths of at least that many in the last few months because he didn't want to do his job.

Try, you are an imbecile ...

USCasualtiesByState

Fuck you dickwad. Keep it civil or STFU.

A) l don't take orders from you; and b) you just ran away from your idiotic claim that there were only 4,000 American casualties. Hell, there were well over 5,000 Americans killed in Iraq, and that's not even counting all of the other casualties.

 

[Faun]

No matter how fucked up Obama is Democrats will still say that WMDs trumps everything.



They figure that lame excuse will fly forever.

Yeah, that "lame" excuse just resulted in a war which cost about 40,000 American casualties and trillions of dollars. You know, nothing worth anything to Conservatives.

Oh, and ironically, that "lame" excuse led to the creation of ISIS.

Try 4000.

The only reason they matter is because it was Bush.
Obama has caused the deaths of at least that many in the last few months because he didn't want to do his job.

Try, you are an imbecile ...

USCasualtiesByState

Oh, you want to count wounded the same as dead. That must be like, saved or created jobs. You pad your stats with incomplete statistics. Many of those wounded are able to lead productive lives.

Holyfuckingshit! How was I supposed to know you don't know the definition of the word, "casualties?"

 

[mudwhistle]

Yes, there is a difference ... when Bush and the GOP blamed intelligence for their failures, rightards ate it up and regurgitated it 24/7 as a feasible excuse. The difference this time around is that rightards are rejecting that excuse. The reason for this difference? The political party of the president.

And, the fact we have not had such an incompetent failure as Obama ever as POTUS, makes the difference unarguably accurate

-Geaux

When it comes to incompetence, Obama comes nowhere near Bush. Far more Americans have died from terrorism while Bush was president than under Obama.

Doubtful. You just aren't hearing about it 24/7 like before. Our kids are still dying in Afghanistan, and people are now getting their heads cut off in Oklahoma. Then there's the Ft Hood shootings you're forgetting.

I'm not forgetting any of it. Some 40,000 casualties just from the Iraq war alone. An additional 3,000 just on 9.11 alone. Obama can't even scratch the surface of Bush's incompetence.

Bull shit. The number one reason he not only can but may even double-down is

1. He has the benefit of recent history. He has no excuses whereas Bush experienced it all for the first time. Obama didn't heed lessons learned.

2. Obama still has more than 2 years left to add to his body count.

 

[Wildman]

He says it because he knows Americans are stupid enough to believe it.

FACT: The US Gov't funds ISIS.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
only American stupid libertards believe ALL the that muslime mulatto spews on an hourly basis.

GOD.., please save America from these America hating S

 

[mudwhistle]

No matter how fucked up Obama is Democrats will still say that WMDs trumps everything.



They figure that lame excuse will fly forever.

Yeah, that "lame" excuse just resulted in a war which cost about 40,000 American casualties and trillions of dollars. You know, nothing worth anything to Conservatives.

Oh, and ironically, that "lame" excuse led to the creation of ISIS.

Try 4000.

The only reason they matter is because it was Bush.
Obama has caused the deaths of at least that many in the last few months because he didn't want to do his job.

Try, you are an imbecile ...

USCasualtiesByState

Fuck you dickwad. Keep it civil or STFU.

A) l don't take orders from you; and b) you just ran away from your idiotic claim that there were only 4,000 American casualties. Hell, there were well over 5,000 Americans killed in Iraq, and that's not even counting all of the other casualties.

Yet none of them count as far as Obama is concerned.

Thousands are dying, but because MSNBC doesn't talk about it, to you it doesn't exist, never mind all of the deaths in Libya and Syria he's currently contributing to.

 

[RandallFlagg]

So Obama is blaming his failed foreign policy on US intelligence failures. Always looking for someone else to blame. Another teaching moment for him as he teaches the younger generation there is no such thing as personal accountability

-Geaux

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Obama: U.S. intelligence underestimated militants in Syria - CBS

(Reuters) - U.S. intelligence agencies underestimated Islamic State activity inside Syria, which has become "ground zero" for jihadists worldwide, President Barack Obama said in a CBS television interview broadcast on Sunday.

Conversely, the United States overestimated the ability of the Iraqi army to fight the militant groups, Obama said in a "60 Minutes" interview taped on Friday, days after the U.S. president made his case at the United Nations for action.

Citing earlier comments by James Clapper, director of national intelligence, Obama acknowledged that U.S. intelligence underestimated what had been taking place in Syria.

Islamic militants went underground when U.S. Marines quashed al Qaeda in Iraq with help from Iraq's tribes, he said.

"But over the past couple of years, during the chaos of the Syrian civil war, where essentially you have huge swaths of the country that are completely ungoverned, they were able to reconstitute themselves and take advantage of that chaos," Obama said

Obama U.S. intelligence underestimated militants in Syria - CBS Reuters

There is no doubt that Clapper is as incompetent as Obama is - I know a couple of guys who actually came up with this clown and they say the same thing - he is a pencil pushing clown. However, I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the Daily Intel Package was presented to Obama's people each and every day - 7 days a week- color coded for priority and (when necessary) briefing personnel accompanied the packet.

Barry CHOSE to disregard the contents (or he never looked at them) and now REFUSES (like he has done all his life) to accept responsibility for his incompetence. Now, it's someone's else's fault. "Leaders take responsibility - they do NOT take credit".

The world is a more dangerous place because this clown was busy "receding the tides of the oceans" while our enemies were plotting against us. He's worthless.

 

[Faun]

So Obama is blaming his failed foreign policy on US intelligence failures. Always looking for someone else to blame. Another teaching moment for him as he teaches the younger generation there is no such thing as personal accountability

-Geaux

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Obama: U.S. intelligence underestimated militants in Syria - CBS

(Reuters) - U.S. intelligence agencies underestimated Islamic State activity inside Syria, which has become "ground zero" for jihadists worldwide, President Barack Obama said in a CBS television interview broadcast on Sunday.

Conversely, the United States overestimated the ability of the Iraqi army to fight the militant groups, Obama said in a "60 Minutes" interview taped on Friday, days after the U.S. president made his case at the United Nations for action.

Citing earlier comments by James Clapper, director of national intelligence, Obama acknowledged that U.S. intelligence underestimated what had been taking place in Syria.

Islamic militants went underground when U.S. Marines quashed al Qaeda in Iraq with help from Iraq's tribes, he said.

"But over the past couple of years, during the chaos of the Syrian civil war, where essentially you have huge swaths of the country that are completely ungoverned, they were able to reconstitute themselves and take advantage of that chaos," Obama said

Obama U.S. intelligence underestimated militants in Syria - CBS Reuters

I miss the daze when righties blamed intelligence for the president's failures.

"It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong." - George Bush, 2005​

Wow, you sure showed us.

I think there's a difference between not finding enough WMDs to make you folks happy and not knowing that ISIS was a threat.

Yes, there is a difference ... when Bush and the GOP blamed intelligence for their failures, rightards ate it up and regurgitated it 24/7 as a feasible excuse. The difference this time around is that rightards are rejecting that excuse. The reason for this difference? The political party of the president.

with one significant difference. with WMDs it was every intelligence service in the world. with ISIS its only the US intel services. The rest of the world recognized ISIS as a threat.

But the facts are that US intel also recognized the threat but the obama admin ignored it or refused to believe it because of its political implications

How many times must this lie be debunked? Russia, France and Germany were among the countries to claim their own intelligence did not confirm Iraq had WMD.

 

[mudwhistle]

No matter how fucked up Obama is Democrats will still say that WMDs trumps everything.



They figure that lame excuse will fly forever.

Yeah, that "lame" excuse just resulted in a war which cost about 40,000 American casualties and trillions of dollars. You know, nothing worth anything to Conservatives.

Oh, and ironically, that "lame" excuse led to the creation of ISIS.

Try 4000.

The only reason they matter is because it was Bush.
Obama has caused the deaths of at least that many in the last few months because he didn't want to do his job.

Try, you are an imbecile ...

USCasualtiesByState

Oh, you want to count wounded the same as dead. That must be like, saved or created jobs. You pad your stats with incomplete statistics. Many of those wounded are able to lead productive lives.

Holyfuckingshit! How was I supposed to know you don't know the definition of the word, "casualties?"

I know what it means, I just didn't assume you were talking about injuries as well. Injuries that can heal.

 

[mudwhistle]

I miss the daze when righties blamed intelligence for the president's failures.

"It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong." - George Bush, 2005​

Wow, you sure showed us.

I think there's a difference between not finding enough WMDs to make you folks happy and not knowing that ISIS was a threat.

Yes, there is a difference ... when Bush and the GOP blamed intelligence for their failures, rightards ate it up and regurgitated it 24/7 as a feasible excuse. The difference this time around is that rightards are rejecting that excuse. The reason for this difference? The political party of the president.

with one significant difference. with WMDs it was every intelligence service in the world. with ISIS its only the US intel services. The rest of the world recognized ISIS as a threat.

But the facts are that US intel also recognized the threat but the obama admin ignored it or refused to believe it because of its political implications

How many times must this lie be debunked? Russia, France and Germany were among the countries to claim their own intelligence did not confirm Iraq had WMD.

Several reasons. They were making money off of the situation for one. In other words, they lied.

 

[Faun]

Yeah, that "lame" excuse just resulted in a war which cost about 40,000 American casualties and trillions of dollars. You know, nothing worth anything to Conservatives.

Oh, and ironically, that "lame" excuse led to the creation of ISIS.

Try 4000.

The only reason they matter is because it was Bush.
Obama has caused the deaths of at least that many in the last few months because he didn't want to do his job.

Try, you are an imbecile ...

USCasualtiesByState

Fuck you dickwad. Keep it civil or STFU.

A) l don't take orders from you; and b) you just ran away from your idiotic claim that there were only 4,000 American casualties. Hell, there were well over 5,000 Americans killed in Iraq, and that's not even counting all of the other casualties.

Yet none of them count as far as Obama is concerned.

Thousands are dying, but because MSNBC doesn't talk about it, to you it doesn't exist, never mind all of the deaths in Libya and Syria he's currently contributing to.

Who said they don't count?? I am pointing out there were far more casualties under Bush. Point being, rightards turn a blind eye to Bush's massive incompetence to talk about Obama's incompetence.

 

[Stephanie]

No matter how fucked up Obama is Democrats will still say that WMDs trumps everything.



They figure that lame excuse will fly forever.

Yeah, that "lame" excuse just resulted in a war which cost about 40,000 American casualties and trillions of dollars. You know, nothing worth anything to Conservatives.

Oh, and ironically, that "lame" excuse led to the creation of ISIS.

Try 4000.

The only reason they matter is because it was Bush.
Obama has caused the deaths of at least that many in the last few months because he didn't want to do his job.

we have no idea really how many has died under him because they won't RELEASE it for one and his lapdog LAMESTREAM media won't bother asking like they did with the daily count they did under Bush

when he has people working in the white house that has relatives in the three lapdog Pravda media you know we aren't getting any of the TRUTH

BUT REMEMBER, his was going to be the MOST TRANSPARENT administration, EVA

 

[Faun]

Yeah, that "lame" excuse just resulted in a war which cost about 40,000 American casualties and trillions of dollars. You know, nothing worth anything to Conservatives.

Oh, and ironically, that "lame" excuse led to the creation of ISIS.

Try 4000.

The only reason they matter is because it was Bush.
Obama has caused the deaths of at least that many in the last few months because he didn't want to do his job.

Try, you are an imbecile ...

USCasualtiesByState

Oh, you want to count wounded the same as dead. That must be like, saved or created jobs. You pad your stats with incomplete statistics. Many of those wounded are able to lead productive lives.

Holyfuckingshit! How was I supposed to know you don't know the definition of the word, "casualties?"

I know what it means, I just didn't assume you were talking about injuries as well. Injuries that can heal.

Suuure. If you knew what it meant, you would have known it's not limited to deaths.

 

[Faun]

Wow, you sure showed us.

I think there's a difference between not finding enough WMDs to make you folks happy and not knowing that ISIS was a threat.

Yes, there is a difference ... when Bush and the GOP blamed intelligence for their failures, rightards ate it up and regurgitated it 24/7 as a feasible excuse. The difference this time around is that rightards are rejecting that excuse. The reason for this difference? The political party of the president.

with one significant difference. with WMDs it was every intelligence service in the world. with ISIS its only the US intel services. The rest of the world recognized ISIS as a threat.

But the facts are that US intel also recognized the threat but the obama admin ignored it or refused to believe it because of its political implications

How many times must this lie be debunked? Russia, France and Germany were among the countries to claim their own intelligence did not confirm Iraq had WMD.

Several reasons. They were making money off of the situation for one. In other words, they lied.

Too fucking stupid for words. A) if they lied, how is it they were the ones who were right? B) if they lied, how do you know they lied since you don't have access to their intelligence? C) how did Germany profit from it?

 

[The Rabbi]

So Obama is blaming his failed foreign policy on US intelligence failures. Always looking for someone else to blame. Another teaching moment for him as he teaches the younger generation there is no such thing as personal accountability

-Geaux

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Obama: U.S. intelligence underestimated militants in Syria - CBS

(Reuters) - U.S. intelligence agencies underestimated Islamic State activity inside Syria, which has become "ground zero" for jihadists worldwide, President Barack Obama said in a CBS television interview broadcast on Sunday.

Conversely, the United States overestimated the ability of the Iraqi army to fight the militant groups, Obama said in a "60 Minutes" interview taped on Friday, days after the U.S. president made his case at the United Nations for action.

Citing earlier comments by James Clapper, director of national intelligence, Obama acknowledged that U.S. intelligence underestimated what had been taking place in Syria.

Islamic militants went underground when U.S. Marines quashed al Qaeda in Iraq with help from Iraq's tribes, he said.

"But over the past couple of years, during the chaos of the Syrian civil war, where essentially you have huge swaths of the country that are completely ungoverned, they were able to reconstitute themselves and take advantage of that chaos," Obama said

Obama U.S. intelligence underestimated militants in Syria - CBS Reuters

I miss the daze when righties blamed intelligence for the president's failures.

"It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong." - George Bush, 2005​

Wow, you sure showed us.

I think there's a difference between not finding enough WMDs to make you folks happy and not knowing that ISIS was a threat.

Yes, there is a difference ... when Bush and the GOP blamed intelligence for their failures, rightards ate it up and regurgitated it 24/7 as a feasible excuse. The difference this time around is that rightards are rejecting that excuse. The reason for this difference? The political party of the president.

Link?
Bush never blamed intelligence failures for the war. The war was his decision, approved by Congress in bipartisan votes.
I realize that distinguishing similar but different things is beyond your capability. That makes you equally incapable of debate. Perhaps killing yourself is a viable alternative?