Obama can't be prosecuted. You can thank Trump for that.

[Chuz Life]

Doubtful, but it doesn't matter either way. He's immune from prosecution.

I think you might be wrong about that accountability thing.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/f6temJ1nUlYpEYYILCBqHEjd8

 

[BULLDOG]

Obama can be prosecuted for anything he did after he left office, whether they were official acts or not. What he did before he left office, if criminal, is not an official act.

If he did it using his presidential power he is immune. They claim he used his official presidential powers to order a report changed.

 

[Skylar]

No to both, the Constitution spells out exactly what constitutes treason. it doesn't apply on the allegations against maobama.

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Nor does coup, or sedition, or any other mouthbreathing pseudo-legal dipshittery that comes tumbling out of that moron's puckered hole.

This is just more theater for idiots. Nothing Bondi presented in any way backs up the shiny, 'for the love of GOD, please stop talking about Epstein!' gibberish that Trump offered. With the USSC immunity just frosting on this layer cake of fail.

 

[Chuz Life]

No to both, the Constitution spells out exactly what constitutes treason. it doesn't apply on the allegations against maobama.

Any lesser charges?

 

[BULLDOG]

What Øbama allegedly did is not a presidential action under the SCOTUS ruling.

But thanks for conceding that Øbama did these things.

I never conceded anything. I said it doesn't matter either way

Justice Sonia Sotomayor, in her dissent, raised chilling hypotheticals—like a president ordering SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival—and argued that under the majority’s logic, such an act could be considered immune from prosecution if deemed “official”. Legal scholars agree that the ruling technically opens the door to such interpretations,

 

[Skylar]

I think you might be wrong about that accountability thing.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/f6temJ1nUlYpEYYILCBqHEjd8

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There's zero evidence of treason. Its just pseudo-legal dipshit nonsense that our local mouthbreathing redcaps say to each other to try and convince themselves that they're Trump's very, very best boy.

You can't touch Obama. This is just more theater for morons to try and distract from Trump's naked cover-up of his association with Epstein.

 

[OKTexas]

He supposedly did it using his presidential powers. That's immune.

You mean misusing don't you. Directing intel folks to create a false narrative to feed to the press and the public to undermine his successor is illegal and a criminal conspiracy. People knew what they were doing was wrong and did it anyway.

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[BULLDOG]

So obama could murder his gay lover and be immune from prosecution?

I doubt that

Nor is he immune from crimes that exceeded his authority while president

And conspiring to overthrow the next president fits that description

Conspiring to overthrow a president before he is elected? You're kidding, right?

 

[Kondor3]

This thread doesn't discuss how horrible you might think Obama is, or if he is guilty of treason. None of those thing matter. The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president. Can you think of a legal reason why trump was able to walk, but Obama should be charged?
If so, now is the time to educate us all. I look forward to your reasoned legal opinion.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

Hmmmmm... uhhhhh... well... yeah... I guess that sounds about right...

 

[Doc7505]

This thread doesn't discuss how horrible you might think Obama is, or if he is guilty of treason. None of those thing matter. The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president. Can you think of a legal reason why trump was able to walk, but Obama should be charged?
If so, now is the time to educate us all. I look forward to your reasoned legal opinion.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

There's a good possibility that you are right. However, there's a good possibility that people Brennan, Comey, Strzok, McCabe, Clapper and other may indicted, tried and convicted for their crimes. \In addition, history will be written defaming Barack Hussein Obama as not only president but a usurper of the same office and traitor to the country.
In a word his name would become equivalent with Benedict Arnold.

 

[Chuz Life]

There's zero evidence of treason. Its just pseudo-legal dipshit nonsense that our local mouthbreathing redcaps say to each other to try and convince themselves that they're Trump's very, very best boy.

You can't touch Obama. This is just more theater for morons to try and distract from Trump's naked cover-up of his association with Epstein. Where Trump is sending his PERSONAL lawyer to speak confidentially with a material witness.

Well, I want full transparency and full accountability on all of it. Really makes me suspicious of anyone who thinks these issues are an "either or" kind of thing.

 

[Skylar]

You mean misusing don't you. Directing intel folks to create a false narrative to feed to the press and the public to undermine his successor is illegal and a criminal conspiracy. People knew what they were doing was wrong and did it anyway.

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There's zero evidence that Obama directed intel folks to create a false narrative to feed to the press to undermine his successor.

There's the story being pushed by the Trump administration to try and distract from their Epstein scandal, backed by jack shit, from the same Trum admin that manufactured fake evidence of MS-13 tattoos on the knuckles of a man that sent to prison without charges or conviction of any crime.

Good ******* luck with that. There's a fantastic reason why the bullshit Trump and his people say in press conferences has little to nothing to do with what they say in court.

This is just more theater for chaw-slawing, shit kicking, mouth breathers.

 

[Skylar]

Well, I want full transparency and full accountability on all of it. Really makes me suspicious of anyone who thinks these issues are an "either or" kind of thing.

Oh, of course. Full transparency and accountability. That's why your bloated orange huckster tried to convince your ilk that there was nothing to see in the Epstein files and they wouldn't be released.

Because of 'accountability'.

That's why Trump pushed made-up photos on MS-13 knuckle tattoos. Because of 'transparency.

Your job is to suck and swallow. Nothing else. Just do it already

 

[BULLDOG]

I think you might be wrong about that accountability thing.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/f6temJ1nUlYpEYYILCBqHEjd8

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They are saying Obama did that while in office. You should read your own post.

 

[Skylar]

Any lesser charges?

Laughing.....or ANY charges?

Trump offered us 'sedition', a 'coup' and 'treason'. Its just pseudo-legal Mad-libs for morons, all to desperately try and distract us from Trump's cover up of his connection to Epstein.

Here's Trump when asked about his former personal lawyer's upcoming interview with Maxwell.

“I don’t really follow that too much. It’s sort of a witch hunt. A continuation of the witch hunt. The witch hunt that you should be talking is they caught President Obama, absolutely cold, Tulsi Gabbard. What they did to this country in 2016, starting in 2016, but going all the way up to 2020 in the election, they tried to rig the election and they got caught and there should be very severe consequences for that."

Can you hear the desperation, the frantic attempt to change the topic to Obama, to the election, to ANYTHING but his own cover-up of his association with Epstein?

So much for 'transparency' and 'accountability'.

 

[OKTexas]

Any lesser charges?

Criminal conspiracy comes to mind, there were at least 8 people in the room when it was decided to have a select few intel analysist create a false intel assessment to keep pushing what they knew to be the false Russia narrative. They made sure it was leaked to the press and it all was used to subvert maobamas successors presidency for almost 3 years. That is conspiracy to commit a fraud on the US and cost the taxpayers millions.

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[BULLDOG]

You mean misusing don't you. Directing intel folks to create a false narrative to feed to the press and the public to undermine his successor is illegal and a criminal conspiracy. People knew what they were doing was wrong and did it anyway.

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You mean like directing Bondi to change her mind about whether the client list was on her desk?

 

[BULLDOG]

There's a good possibility that you are right. However, there's a good possibility that people Brennan, Comey, Strzok, McCabe, Clapper and other may indicted, tried and convicted for their crimes. \In addition, history will be written defaming Barack Hussein Obama as not only president but a usurper of the same office and traitor to the country.
In a word his name would become equivalent with Benedict Arnold.

I suppose we will see how Obama is remembered as opposed to trump.

 

[Skylar]

Criminal conspiracy comes to mind, there were at least 8 people in the room when it was decided to have a select few intel analysist create a false intel assessment to keep pushing what they knew to be the false Russia narrative. They made sure it was leaked to the press and it all was used to subvert maobamas successors presidency for almost 3 years. That is conspiracy to commit a fraud on the US and cost the taxpayers millions.

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There's zero evidence that they decided to create a false intel assessment. You're conflating any random bullshit that the Trump administration makes up with actual evidence. There's a reason why what Trump's people say in press conferences often has jackshit to do with what they say in court.

And of course, Obama is absolutely untouchable for work done in his official capacity as president. The SCOTUS wrapped that up clean.

This is just more theater for morons. All so your ilk can try and cover up Trump's association with pedophile and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. So much for 'transparency' and 'accountability', eh?

 

[OKTexas]

There's zero evidence that Obama directed intel folks to create a false narrative to feed to the press to undermine his successor.

There's the story being pushed by the Trump administration to try and distract from their Epstein scandal, backed by jack shit, from the same Trum admin that manufactured fake evidence of MS-13 tattoos on the knuckles of a man that sent to prison without charges or conviction of any crime.

Good ******* luck with that. There's a fantastic reason why the bullshit Trump and his people say in press conferences has little to nothing to do with what they say in court.

This is just more theater for chaw-slawing, shit kicking, mouth breathers.

Trump was within his rights to ship Garcia out of the country, the only court stipulation was he couldn't be sent to Guatemala. He was found to be an MS-13 gang member by two immigration courts, and his illegal status is not in dispute. BTW that is part of his core constitutional duties.

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