Obama can't be prosecuted. You can thank Trump for that.

You mean like directing Bondi to change her mind about whether the client list was on her desk?

So they either created a false narrative about Epstein before the election to try and gain politically on sex trafficking and rape of children.

Or they're frantically working to cover up the very evidence that affirms the sex trafficking and rape of children.....to protect the known associate of Jeffrey Epstein, President Trump.

Either is ******* vile. And a perfect demonstration of what 'transparency' and 'accountability' means to Trump and MAGA.
 
Oh, of course. Full transparency and accountability. That's why your bloated orange huckster tried to convince your ilk that there was nothing to see in the Epstein files and they wouldn't be released.

Because of 'accountability'.

That's why Trump pushed made-up photos on MS-13 knuckle tattoos. Because of 'transparency.

Your job is to suck and swallow. Nothing else. Just do it already
I voted to drain the swamp, I personally don't care if Trump or anyone else gets exposed and convicted in the process.
 
There's zero evidence that they decided to create a false intel assessment. You're conflating any random bullshit that the Trump administration makes up with actual evidence. There's a reason why what Trump's people say in press conferences often has jackshit to do with what they say in court.

And of course, Obama is absolutely untouchable for work done in his official capacity as president. The SCOTUS wrapped that up clean.

This is just more theater for morons. All so your ilk can try and cover up Trump's association with pedophile and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. So much for 'transparency' and 'accountability', eh?


That's where you're wrong, the DNI laid out the prima facie case in a press briefing. It starts at 9:13 in the video.



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Trump was within his rights to ship Garcia out of the country, the only court stipulation was he couldn't be sent to Guatemala. He was found to be an MS-13 gang member by two immigration courts, and his illegal status is not in dispute. BTW that is part of his core constitutional duties.

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Then why wasn't Garcia ever charged or convicted of any crime before Trump had him thrown into prison against court orders without due process? Why the need to manufacture fake evidence against Garcia, with those laughably absurd 'photos' of MS-13 tattoos on his knuckles?

You don't need to make up fake evidence when you've got a strong case.

And of course, those fake photos that Trump manufactured have NEVER been admitted as evidence in any court filing. Before or after Trump's accusations before the press. Nor did any immigration court, or any court for that matter, ever make the slightest mention of these imaginary knuckle tattoos.

But we're supposed to trust the evidence free ACCUSATIONS of Bondi and Gabbard backed by jackshit, of Obama's crimes during the same kind of press conference? When absolutely nothing backing anything she's said has ever been submitted as as evidence of any such crimes in any court, grand jury, or indictment?

Nope. This is just more theater for dipshits. And another pathetic attempt by your ilk to try and cover up Trump's association with pedophile and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein by suppressing and hiding evidence of the rape and explotation of children.

All to protect Trump.
 
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That's where you're wrong, the DNI laid out the prima facie case in a press briefing. It starts at 9:13 in the video.



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Uh-huh. And where is the actual evidence that Obama ordered the intelligence community to craft a false narrative about the 2016 election? Give us time stamps of actual evidence.

All you've presented is Gabbard making accusations. Just like Trump did when he insisted that they had irrefutable evidence of Obama doing everything from sedition, to treason to a coup. Just like Trump did when he made up fake claims about MS-13 tattoos on Garcia's knuckles - even manufacturing fake photos. Just like Trump did when he claimed that they rigged the 2016 election, backed by jackshit.

You're literally offering accusations as evidence, despite NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE of Obama ordering the intelligence community to craft a false narrative around the 2016 election.

All to try and distract from Trump's cover up of his association with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, and his administrations suppression of evidence of child rape and sex trafficking to try and protect Trump.

That's vile.
 
No comment, I'm not going to participate to your attempted derail of your own thread.

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Laughing....was Bondi lying then, or is she lying now?

Its lies on lies on lies, all to suppress overwhelming evidence of child rape and sex trafficking of children.........to protect Donald Trump.

Disgusting. And such a perfect representation of MAGA's actual values.
 
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Then why wasn't Garcia ever charged or convicted of any crime before Trump had him thrown into prison against court orders without due process? Why the need to manufacture fake evidence against Garcia, with those laughably absurd 'photos' of MS-13 tattoos on his knuckles?

You don't need to make up fake evidence when you've got a strong case.

And of course, those fake photos that Trump manufactured have NEVER been admitted as evidence in any court filing. Before or after Trump's accusations before the press. Nor did any immigration court, or any court for that matter, ever make the slightest mention of these imaginary knuckle tattoos.

But we're supposed to trust the evidence free ACCUSATIONS of Bondi, backed by jackshit, of Obama's crimes during the same kind of press conference? When absolutely nothing backing anything she's said has ever been submitted as as evidence of any such crimes in any court, grand jury, or indictment?

Nope. This is just more theater for dipshits. And another pathetic attempt by your ilk to try and cover up Trump's association with pedophile and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein by suppressing and hiding evidence of the rape and explotation of children.

All to protect Trump.


What you're ignoring is the law. Immigration law requires and illegal to be detained, go before an immigration judge, which Garcia did 3 times. He had at least 2 final orders for deportation. He had his due process.

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Uh-huh. And where is the actual evidence that Obama ordered the intelligence community to craft a false narrative about the 2016 election? Give us time stamps of actual evidence.

All you've presented is Gabbard making accusations. Just like Trump did when he insisted that they had irrefutable evidence of Obama doing everything from sedition, to treason to a coup. Just like Trump did when he made up fake claims about MS-13 tattoos on Garcia's knuckles - even manufacturing fake photos. Just like Trump did when he claimed that they rigged the 2016 election, backed by jackshit.

You're literally offering accusations as evidence, despite NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE of Obama ordering the intelligence community to craft a false narrative around the 2016 election.

All to try and distract from Trump's cover up of his association with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, and his administrations suppression of evidence of child rape and sex trafficking to try and protect Trump.

That's vile.


Don't ask for evidence if you're not even going to look at it. We're done.

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This thread doesn't discuss how horrible you might think Obama is, or if he is guilty of treason. None of those thing matter. The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president. Can you think of a legal reason why trump was able to walk, but Obama should be charged?
If so, now is the time to educate us all. I look forward to your reasoned legal opinion.
Treason, sedition, and espionage isn't part of a POTUS's official acts.

Oh, and when a president is in office you have to impeach them and remove them first before you can arrest them and charge them with treason, sedition, and espionage.

But last I looked, Obama already left office years ago.

So they can charge him for the illegal acts he committed while POTUS.
 
If so, now is the time to educate us all. I look forward to your reasoned legal opinion.

From your link: Stated simply: The Court has now declared for the first time in history that the most powerful official in the United States can (under circumstances yet to be fully determined) become a law unto himself. As we enter this uncharted territory, the People, in their wisdom, will need to remain ever attentive, consistently fulfilling their established role in ourconstitutional democracy, and thus collectively serving asthe ultimate safeguard against any chaos spawned by thisCourt’s decision.
 
What you're ignoring is the law. Immigration law requires and illegal to be detained, go before an immigration judge, which Garcia did 3 times. He had at least 2 final orders for deportation. He had his due process.

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Then what crimes was Garcia convicted of before he was thrown in prison? What crimes was he even CHARGED with before he was thrown into prison? All without due process of law.

And ignoring the actual law? Even Trump's administration admitted that they made a mistake by deporting him. Even the Supreme Court said that Trump improperly sent Garcia to El Salvador and that the Trump admin had to faciliate Garcia's release.

"The order properly requires the Government to 'facilitate' Abrego Garcia's release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador," the Supreme Court said in its ruling.

Did the Supreme Court 'not understand the law' too? Or do you just not know what you're talking about?

And of course, if the case against Garcia was so strong.....why did Trump have to manufacture fake 'photos' of MS-13 tattoos on Garcia's knuckles? You don't need to manufacture fake evidence if you have a strong case.

Yeah, I'm gonna go with the federal judiciary on this one rather than some random dude on the internet who insists he knows better......all to try and distract from Trump's cover up of his association with Epstein.
 
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Treason, sedition, and espionage isn't part of a POTUS's official acts.

The Trump admin hasn't presented any evidence of treason, sedition, coups, election rigging, or espionage by Obama.

They've sure as hell made up a fuckton of accusations backed by jackshit, though! As MAGA does.

In public, anyway. At press conferences, anyway. But in court, they argue a VERY different thing. As demonstrated elegantly by Trump's manufactured 'photos' of MS-13 tattoos on Garcia's knuckles presented before the press. But have never ONCE been offered as evidence before the court.

This is just more theater for dipshits to try and distract from the Trump administration's attempt to suppress evidence of child rape and sex trafficking of children, all to protect Trump.
 
Doubtful, but it doesn't matter either way. He's immune from prosecution.
Only if what he did was within his authority.

Now that he's a former president they don't have to impeach him so they can charge him.

Obama can be prosecuted.
 
Only if what he did was within his authority.

Now that he's a former president they don't have to impeach him so they can charge him.

Obama can be prosecuted.

Nope. Every meeting they claim to cite was an official act of his job.

You can't touch Obama. He's immune. And you've got jackshit that he committed treason, espionage, sedition, a coup, election rigging, or any of the MAGA mad-lib pseudo-legal word salad you guys use as lube in your right wing circle jerks.

This is just more meaningless theater for morons to desperately try and distract from Trump's coverup of evidence of his association with pedophile and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.
 
MAGA cult members are saying he is guilty of treason.

From your link:

We have thus held that Congress lacks authority to control the President’s “unrestricted power of removal” with respect to “executive officers of the United States whom he has appointed.”
 
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The Trump admin hasn't presented any evidence of treason, sedition, coups, election rigging, or espionage by Obama.

They've sure as hell made up a fuckton of accusations backed by jackshit, though! As MAGA does.

In public, anyway. At press conferences, anyway. But in court, they argue a VERY different thing. As demonstrated elegantly by Trump's manufactured 'photos' of MS-13 tattoos on Garcia's knuckles presented before the press. But have never ONCE been offered as evidence before the court.

This is just more theater for dipshits to try and distract from the Trump administration's attempt to suppress evidence of child rape and sex trafficking of children, all to protect Trump.
Bullshit.

Tulsi Gabbard has the goods on Obama, and he's going to go down.
She isn't about to post all of the evidence in an FBI investigation online. That's illegal.
What she has done is told everyone what she has already done, which is turned over evidence to the DOJ with a criminal referral.

This horse shit reminds me of all your claims that Biden wasn't suffering from Dementia. How did that crap turn out for you?
 
I voted to drain the swamp, I personally don't care if Trump or anyone else gets exposed and convicted in the process.

Drain the swamp? Trump is having a material witness of Epstein's rape of children and child sex trafficking interviewed by his former PERSONAL lawyer. Nothing to see here!

The Trump administration has already insisted they won't be releasing the Epstein files, and are actively suppressing evidence of the child rape and sex trafficking, all to protect Trump.

That's what passes for 'transparency' and 'accountability' among MAGA.
 
Nixon occurred before the ruling.
You have been brainwashed by the lying leftard news media.

The Supreme Court has been entirely consistent on this point for 100 years.
 
Bullshit.

Tulsi Gabbard has the goods on Obama, and he's going to go down.
She isn't about to post all of the evidence in an FBI investigation online. That's illegal.
What she has done is told everyone what she has already done, which is turned over evidence to the DOJ with a criminal referral.

This horse shit reminds me of all your claims that Biden wasn't suffering from Dementia. How did that crap turn out for you?

Laughing....she's got jackshit. Which is why in the entire press conference she presented nothing but her accusations. Nothing to back claims of espionage, sedition, treason, election rigging, a coup, or any of the other meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish that came tumbling out of Trump's desperate orange pucker.

Here's Trump when asked about his former PERSONAL lawyers interview with Maxwell:

“I don’t really follow that too much. It’s sort of a witch hunt. A continuation of the witch hunt. The witch hunt that you should be talking is they caught President Obama, absolutely cold, Tulsi Gabbard. What they did to this country in 2016, starting in 2016, but going all the way up to 2020 in the election, they tried to rig the election and they got caught and there should be very severe consequences for that."

Can you hear the desperation? Can you see the frantic attempts to change the topic to ANYTHING else, with Trump offering a veritable word salad of meaningless accusations backed by nothing?

All while Obama is gloriously, pristine, and perfectly immune to any of the meaningless nonsense Trump makes up to distract.
 
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