Obama bombs Muslims

[Davros]

But you have no answer for who governs the damn place after "victory." And you simply rehash the clusterfuck inflicted by W.

Of course I do. We govern. We took over Japan and Germany for a while after we defeated them. We would need to take over Iraq and recoup our military expenses from their oil supply. This crap of fighting wars for other nations at our own expense has always been a stupid policy.

We already tried that in Iraq. It didn't work. The terrorists were prepared to wait as long as necessary, certainly longer than "a while".

Well, we have bases in Japan and in Germany today. I don't see your problem.

A few bases wouldn't stop the terrorists from regrouping. So you would have to have cycle after cycle of massive warfare each time the terrorists re-emerged from the population. Your solution would be no less drawn out than what's currently going on, but with greater loss of American lives.

So your alternative is to withdraw from the world and stick your head in the sand and hope they leave us alone? They are already in Europe, in Africa, and even in the United States and your President and the Democrat leading candidate for the 2016 election wants to open our immigration system even wider and love them to death? Really? That's what they are counting on.

Withdraw from the Middle East. The whole place is a hellhole full of crazy people. If we were no longer interfering in the Middle East, the terrorists here would go somewhere else where they could attack people who were interfering. Maybe a few would stay to "avenge" the past, but law enforcement could track them down. I think we need to be careful who we let in as refugees or immigrants from the Middle East.

 

[Davros]

But it is a viable solution where you Liberals have failed to offer one. Ignoring is not a solution.

The only way it would be "viable" is if you killed them all, making you the worst mass murderer in world history 100 times over.

You know you would not kill all Muslims. You're being childish. No one killed all the Japanese. The Germans did not kill all the Jews. You hunt down and destroy radical Islamists and their supporters wherever they might be regardless to what nation's border they cross into. You put sanctions against any nation aiding and abetting the terrorists. You seize their assets worldwide. You watch the internet for recruiting and anyone supporting them and put those that do in prison. You actually have Congress declare a formal state of war against any and all radical Islamists. You actually actively engage the enemy 24/7 until he refuses to fight any longer and no one will join his lost cause.

But the libturds are childish. It is their complete nature. Over exaggerate most everything and cry the sky is falling.

Yet is it is Conservatives calling for the nuking of Muslims

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A small nuke would do wonders towards getting their attention. Were they to get one and a delivery mechanism, they wouldn't hesitate to use it.

A "small nuke" wouldn't accomplish a damn thing.

 

[Davros]

I'm retired military, and if you think "nuke Islam" is a solution, then you are even more retarded than I thought.

It's an idiot idea for people with the intellectual capacity of a bumper sticker.


I've pointed out many, many times on this forum that if we go after ISIS in Iraq and Syria, it will require a minimum ten year occupation.

Do you want Obama to commit the next two or three Presidents to an occupation?

None of you tards ever answer this question.

You know why? Because if you say no, that means just doing what we are doing while ISIS plots against us. "Hurry up and wait".

If you say yes, then you are committing to another long, long war that you know the American people have no stomach for.

ISIS knows that, too. That's why they are provoking us into one. They know if we come after them, we won't stay long enough to see the job through. They are willing to sacrifice tens of thousands of their lives. We turn and run if we lose a few thousand. So ISIS will win that war, and our defeat/leaving will validate their base territory as a legitimate entity.

And Trump and all his idiot rubes are playing right into their hands.

So...come up with a REAL plan, dispshit.

Sadly, even with a partition between the Kurds and the pro-Iran shia, we'd have Sunni areas, and we lost any cred with the Sunnis when both W and Obama sold them down the river to All-ah-mucky. The former al queda, and now ISIS folks, have killed the leaders of the Sunni who Saddam more or less tolerated. Do we want Pakistani troops policing? I don't think so.

Damned if I can see an alternative to some form of the Assad baath party.

Let the Arabs fight it out and settle on their own borders.

That's what Europe had to do.

that's how we got in this scenario today. What a stupid idea.

No we got here because W decided to go nationbuilding where there was no existential threat to America, and as a result W lost the support of the voters to continue his death march for the US military.

And the military love Bush because he looked out for them. They despise Obama.

"You go to war with the army you have, not the army you want" Donald Rumsfeld

 

[Davros]

Bush signed the agreement for us to withdraw from Iraq after his Administration was gone. He handed off our departure to Obama, who carried it out.

Iraq wanted us out. Simple as that.

So we left. Too bad, so sad for them.

The problem isn't that we left Iraq. The problem is that we didn't leave the Middle East entirely.

We should leave the rest of the Middle East and let the Arabs solve the ISIS problem themselves. They won't do it until we leave.

And they are the ones who should do it. They can do it faster and better than we can. They just need the motivation. Our leaving the field will give them that motivation.

BS. Only the American might can solve the problem. You would leave Israel and the rest of our few allies to their slaughter by a crazed religious evil.

Israel is more than capable of self defense.

Iraq proved that American might can send them into hiding, but they come back.

No army can defeat the US military. But guerillas and terrorists can wait the US military out.

 

[skye]

Obama bombs Muslims

Granny says, "So what, ya lookin' fer sympathy?

Don't expect any from this corner."

you don't have to worry Granny pro Obama.


Hussein will never bomb his brothers jihadists


he will bomb American patriots first.....the Tea Party .....Veterans....

But bomb Islamists like himself?

Never

 

[Syriusly]

America has no stomach for loss of life and treasure.

ISIS does, and that is their huge advantage. They know they simply need to outwait us.

ISIS is essentially a death cult- that wants to provoke a 'final solution' every bit as much as HB does.

ISIS wants European boots on the ground so that they can frame the war as Christianity versus Islam- and want to be leading Muslims to the final battle against the Infidels.

I agree with the others that have mentioned it- the solution has to be solved by the Middle East themselves- only other Muslims can ultimately defeat ISIS. We can help- as we are now- but until Turkey is more interested in defeating ISIS than defeating the Kurds, and Iraq wants to defeat ISIS more than it wants to defeat it's political rivals in Iraq, and Saudi Arabia wants to defeat ISIS more than promoting Wahabism, etc, etc.

A coalition of Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, Iran and Kurds could defeat ISIS and dig them out with no real place to hide.

But they are willing to let the U.S. and Russia get bogged down in that crap instead.

Were you to actually understand their religion, it is their very aim to usher in their version of the end of the world. Theirs is a religion built upon evil. You cannot love them away.

LOL- you lecturing anyone about Islam is hilarious- and sad.

No wonder you want to nuke all Muslims- no wonder you just want an excuse to slaughter Muslim children.

 

[Syriusly]

Obama bombs Muslims

Granny says, "So what, ya lookin' fer sympathy?

Don't expect any from this corner."

you don't have to worry Granny pro Obama.


Hussein will never bomb his brothers jihadists


he will bomb American patriots first.....the Tea Party .....Veterans....

But bomb Islamists like himself?

Never

LOL- Of course Obama will not bomb Islamists like himself- no more than he would 'bomb Martians like himself'

He of course has America bombing dangerous Islamic Extremists and has been doing it for years- much to the dismay of Conservatives.